IRC log of aapi on 2010-01-19

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rrsagent, make log world

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+ +1.512.286.aaaa

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zakim, +1.512 is Andi_Snow-Weaver

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+Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it

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+Cynthia_Shelly

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topic: bug 7134 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7134

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OBE - this was part of the text alternative computation that has been replaced with text that matches the spec

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topic: bug 7182 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7182

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table has been added to the UAIG - David just needs to review and provide content

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topic: bug 7218 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7218

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actions table was removed for this draft due to lack of content but still need to have it

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topic: bug 7223 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7223

15:16:00 [Andi]

all of the content of "exposing supplemental interfaces" has been worked in appropriately

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didn't know what to do with AccessibleHypertext - the only advice was about "not" exposing it

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need David to look at UAIG and provide advice on when AccessibleHypertext "should" be exposed

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topic: bug 7240 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7240

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DB: if one browser filters some of the events, they all should probably do it

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action: David to send specific issues to Cynthia for research with the IE team

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DB: this is low priority

15:18:42 [Andi]

close 7240 as either "won't fix" or "later"

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topic: bug 7634 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7634

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DB: cases where you might have a sentence with a text field

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CS: pushback from Windows team, not how MSAA is supposed to work

15:22:27 [davidb]

http://www.marcozehe.de/2008/03/23/easy-aria-tip-2-aria-labelledby-and-aria-describedby/

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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_additional_nd

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+Tim_Boland

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action: review propsal (in bug 7634) with ARIA since the text is also in the WAI-ARIA spec

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topic: bug 7666 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7666

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CS: think having multiple aria-owns relationships is an error

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DB: what does multiple aria-owns relationships mean?

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CS: though it meant child has multiple parents but maybe it means parent has multiple children which would be okay

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s/though/thought/

15:33:56 [davidb]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-owns

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CS: IE is going to want to change the accessible tree which is another issue

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DB: according to the spec, it is an error if more than one aria-owns property references the same ID

15:39:21 [davidb]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-relevant

15:48:33 [Andi]

topic: bug 8318 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8318

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action: David to ask Rich to add discussion of role="log" to ARIA TF agenda

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topic: bug 8497 - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8497

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fundamental issue that the UAIG has some HTML specific information in it but much that is also generally applicable to other technologies

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DB: wouldn't mind changing the name

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CS: strongly opposed to it

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DB: wonder if his issue is that we're not handling how ARIA is handled by SVG, etc.

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CS: actions next week and discuss how to break up the work for the next draft

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-Andi_Snow-Weaver

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-David_Bolter

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-Cynthia_Shelly

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-Cooper

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-Tim_Boland

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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Cooper, David_Bolter, +1.512.286.aaaa, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland

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zakim, bye

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