14:57:53 RRSAgent has joined #aapi 14:57:53 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/05-aapi-irc 14:58:02 Zakim has joined #aapi 14:58:13 zakim, this will be aapi 14:58:13 ok, Andi; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 14:58:22 rrsagent, make logs public 14:58:29 rrsagent, make log world 14:58:47 scribe: Andi 14:59:04 Meeting: AAPI 14:59:09 Chair: Cynthia 15:02:11 WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has now started 15:02:22 +Andi_Snow-Weaver 15:05:53 oh are we on? 15:07:11 ok 15:07:18 +[Mozilla] 15:07:46 Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter 15:07:46 +David_Bolter; got it 15:13:16 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6653 15:13:25 topic: bug 6653 15:14:14 not a bug we can fix - need to discuss in DOM events group 15:16:22 +Cynthia_Shelly 15:17:04 topic: bug 6757 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6757 15:17:30 cyns has joined #aapi 15:18:53 DB: specific to APIs, don't think we need to discuss in the UAIG 15:19:22 DB: do need to mention reverse relations 15:20:04 DB: we do have something in 4.6.3.1. Comfortable that what we have is sufficient 15:20:59 close 6757 as won't fix 15:21:12 topic: bug 6880 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6880 15:22:53 on hold pending resolution with HTML - reassign to Cynthia 15:23:02 topic: bug 6881 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6881 15:26:31 added text to 4.4 - close 6881 15:29:12 topic: bug 6883 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6883 15:32:34 Cynthia to review second table in 4.8.2 with Windows team 15:32:55 changes to role now discussed in bullet 5 of 4.4 Role mapping 15:33:03 CS: may need to add something about maintaining focus 15:33:39 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6883 15:34:45 CS reviews bullet 5 - looks okay 15:38:21 topic: bug 6891 15:38:30 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6891 15:38:59 AS: reorg is done, still need to think about better organization if UAIG is to be a normative spec 15:39:02 close 6891 for now 15:39:28 +Tim_Boland 15:39:30 topic: bug 6912 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6912 15:40:05 Tim has joined #aapi 15:40:10 DB: ARIA drag/drop semantics don't mesh well with what's proposed in HTML 5 15:40:23 CS: can we raise an HTML 5 bug and assign to the TF? 15:41:13 action Cynthia to open bug in HTML 5 for resolving differences between ARIA drag/drop semantics and HTML 5 proposal 15:41:30 action David to add summary notes to 6912 15:42:35 topic: 7017 15:42:42 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7017 15:44:29 http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-implementation-20090224/#keyboard-focus_tabindex 15:45:10 CS: not needed at all 15:45:14 close 7017 15:47:00 topic: bug 7019 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7019 15:47:17 DB: think this matters more for ARIA 2.0 15:47:28 CS: true but was hoping to document anything that can be done now 15:48:32 keep 7019 open 15:48:50 topic: 7020 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7020 15:49:20 DB: nice way to handle SVG keyboard focus without requiring it to be the same as DOM focus 15:50:06 CS: can see how that is useful but if don't set the DOM focus, the focus won't inherit the OS customized look 15:50:27 keep 7020 open - see what feedback we get 15:50:41 CS: IE hasn't implemented yet 15:50:53 DB: is this in HTML 5? 15:51:09 CS: don't think so 15:51:35 topic: bug 7024 15:51:36 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7024 15:54:04 keep 7024 open 15:54:17 topic: bug 7027 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7027 15:55:02 David to update 7027 15:55:15 topic: bug 7042 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7042 15:55:21 done - close 7042 15:57:06 topic: bug 7043 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7043 15:57:22 AS: need to determine the best format for implementors 15:57:49 AS: should we have all of the information about each role and it's associated states and properties together instead of scattered throughout the document? 15:58:00 action David to talk to FF team 15:58:41 topic: bug 7044 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7044 15:58:48 need a tracker item for this 15:59:26 action Andi to open a tracker item 16:03:10 topic: bug 7046 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7046 16:03:32 http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-implementation-20091215/#mapping_general 16:05:31 close 7046 16:05:56 topic: 7047 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7047 16:06:33 close 7047 16:07:37 -Tim_Boland 16:07:39 -Cynthia_Shelly 16:07:41 -David_Bolter 16:07:41 -Andi_Snow-Weaver 16:07:42 WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended 16:07:44 Attendees were Andi_Snow-Weaver, David_Bolter, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland 16:07:46 For next week, pick up with 7066 and continue bug review 16:08:16 action all to review remaining bugs to see if we can close more before next week 16:08:21 zakim, bye 16:08:21 Zakim has left #aapi 16:08:27 rrsagent, make minutes 16:08:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/05-aapi-minutes.html Andi 16:12:04 Andi has left #aapi