IRC log of aapi on 2010-01-05

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14:58:13 [Andi]
zakim, this will be aapi
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ok, Andi; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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scribe: Andi
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Meeting: AAPI
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Chair: Cynthia
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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has now started
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+Andi_Snow-Weaver
15:05:53 [davidb]
oh are we on?
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ok
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+[Mozilla]
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Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
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+David_Bolter; got it
15:13:16 [Andi]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6653
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topic: bug 6653
15:14:14 [Andi]
not a bug we can fix - need to discuss in DOM events group
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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topic: bug 6757 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6757
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DB: specific to APIs, don't think we need to discuss in the UAIG
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DB: do need to mention reverse relations
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DB: we do have something in 4.6.3.1. Comfortable that what we have is sufficient
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close 6757 as won't fix
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topic: bug 6880 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6880
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on hold pending resolution with HTML - reassign to Cynthia
15:23:02 [Andi]
topic: bug 6881 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6881
15:26:31 [Andi]
added text to 4.4 - close 6881
15:29:12 [Andi]
topic: bug 6883 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6883
15:32:34 [Andi]
Cynthia to review second table in 4.8.2 with Windows team
15:32:55 [Andi]
changes to role now discussed in bullet 5 of 4.4 Role mapping
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CS: may need to add something about maintaining focus
15:33:39 [Andi]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6883
15:34:45 [Andi]
CS reviews bullet 5 - looks okay
15:38:21 [Andi]
topic: bug 6891
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6891
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AS: reorg is done, still need to think about better organization if UAIG is to be a normative spec
15:39:02 [Andi]
close 6891 for now
15:39:28 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
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topic: bug 6912 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6912
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DB: ARIA drag/drop semantics don't mesh well with what's proposed in HTML 5
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CS: can we raise an HTML 5 bug and assign to the TF?
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action Cynthia to open bug in HTML 5 for resolving differences between ARIA drag/drop semantics and HTML 5 proposal
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action David to add summary notes to 6912
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topic: 7017
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7017
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-implementation-20090224/#keyboard-focus_tabindex
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CS: not needed at all
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close 7017
15:47:00 [Andi]
topic: bug 7019 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7019
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DB: think this matters more for ARIA 2.0
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CS: true but was hoping to document anything that can be done now
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keep 7019 open
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topic: 7020 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7020
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DB: nice way to handle SVG keyboard focus without requiring it to be the same as DOM focus
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CS: can see how that is useful but if don't set the DOM focus, the focus won't inherit the OS customized look
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keep 7020 open - see what feedback we get
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CS: IE hasn't implemented yet
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DB: is this in HTML 5?
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CS: don't think so
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topic: bug 7024
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7024
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keep 7024 open
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topic: bug 7027 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7027
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David to update 7027
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topic: bug 7042 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7042
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done - close 7042
15:57:06 [Andi]
topic: bug 7043 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7043
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AS: need to determine the best format for implementors
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AS: should we have all of the information about each role and it's associated states and properties together instead of scattered throughout the document?
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action David to talk to FF team
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topic: bug 7044 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7044
15:58:48 [Andi]
need a tracker item for this
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action Andi to open a tracker item
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topic: bug 7046 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7046
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-implementation-20091215/#mapping_general
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close 7046
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topic: 7047 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7047
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close 7047
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-Tim_Boland
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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-David_Bolter
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-Andi_Snow-Weaver
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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Andi_Snow-Weaver, David_Bolter, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland
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For next week, pick up with 7066 and continue bug review
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action all to review remaining bugs to see if we can close more before next week
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zakim, bye
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