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20:52:22 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
20:52:22 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago
20:52:26 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
20:52:44 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0000.html
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20:57:27 <Zakim> +Jeanne
20:59:44 <Jan> zakim, code?
20:59:44 <Zakim> the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Jan
20:59:55 <Zakim> +??P1
21:00:06 <Jan> zakim, ??P1
21:00:06 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P1', Jan
21:00:17 <Jan> zakim, ??P1 is really Jan
21:00:17 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
21:02:12 <Zakim> -Jan
21:02:32 <Zakim> +??P1
21:02:54 <Jan> zakim, ??P1 is really Jan
21:02:54 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
21:02:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
21:03:15 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta
21:03:15 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
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21:04:30 <Zakim> -Jan
21:04:54 <Zakim> +??P1
21:04:58 <Jan> zakim, ??P1 is really Jan
21:04:58 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
21:05:53 <Zakim> +??P3
21:06:29 <Jan> zakim, ??P3 is really ARonksley
21:06:29 <Zakim> +ARonksley; got it
21:09:03 <Zakim> +Greg_Pisocky
21:10:14 <Jan> Chair: Jutta Treviranus
21:10:47 <Jan> Scribe: ARonksley
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21:11:51 <ARonksley> JT: first item on agenda is review of comments on last call
21:12:06 <ARonksley> JT: does anyone know of people to chase for comments?
21:12:20 <ARonksley> GP: Andrew Kirkpatrick from Adobe is currently reviewing
21:12:55 <ARonksley> JT: Need to make sure comments are representative of the community / organisations etc
21:14:29 <Jan> AR: Will try and chase someone at RNIB
21:14:52 <ARonksley> AR: Sally Cain from RNIB - i'll chase tomorrow.
21:16:22 <ARonksley> AR: Will also email Joshue O'Connor who has done a lot of work around Joomla / Drupal
21:18:23 <ARonksley> JT: Can everyone send in a list of 10 people to review the editors draft for the push list
21:18:48 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
21:19:36 <ARonksley> JT: Moving onto Cynthia's comments
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21:19:52 <ARonksley> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0058.html
21:21:16 <Jan> Topic: Guideline A.3.6
21:21:42 <ARonksley> Guideline A.3.6 [For the authoring tool user interface] Manage preference settings
21:22:04 <ARonksley> Should there be an SC for honoring operating system settings for keyboard and display?
21:22:28 <ARonksley> Alternatively, perhaps both honoring OS settings, and saving keyboard and display settings, are general software issues, and not specific to authoring tools?
21:23:04 <ARonksley> JR: Do people think it's such a general software issue we should remove it? If it stays, what do people think of my proposal?
21:24:02 <ARonksley> JR: Any tools that leave preferences / keyboard settings etc to the OS are exempt
21:26:04 <ARonksley> JT: When we first created this, we went beyond what the OS would provide. It's subsequently been whittled down to a similar level to what the OS will provide.
21:26:25 <ARonksley> JT: E.g. individual preference settings per user.
21:28:38 <ARonksley> TB: My concern is that a tool won't allow a level of customisation if we fall back to relying on OS provisions.
21:31:23 <ARonksley> JR: An example is the customisation of a WYSIWYG tool.
21:32:23 <Jan> Action JR: Take A.3.6 back to drawing board - add points about when to pass OS and when perhaps not
21:32:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-220 - Take A.3.6 back to drawing board - add points about when to pass OS and when perhaps not [on Jan Richards - due 2010-01-11].
21:33:35 <Jan> JT: Not override OS< but rather when more settings are necessary
21:34:05 <Jan> Topic: A.3.7.2 Preview
21:36:01 <ARonksley> JR: Suggest adding "third party" to user agent to clarify it doesn't have to be built into the tool
21:36:29 <Jan> Resolution: Use JR's rewording for A.3.7.2 Preview in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0058.html
21:36:44 <Jan> Topic: A.4.1.3 Undo is Reversible
21:37:33 <Jan> Resolution: Use JR's rewording for A.4.1.3 Preview in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0058.html
21:37:51 <Jan> Topic: Part B: Responsibility After Authoring Sessions
21:42:48 <Jan> JR: Maybe we should say "Applicability" instead of "responsibility"
21:44:23 <Jan> Action JR: To reword proposal with applicability instead of responsibility
21:44:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-221 - Reword proposal with applicability instead of responsibility [on Jan Richards - due 2010-01-11].
21:44:35 <Jan> Topic: Guideline B.1.1
21:45:39 <ARonksley> Guideline B.1.1 Support web content technologies that enable the creation of content that is accessible
21:45:41 <Jan> B.1.1.1 Accessible Content Production (WCAG Level A): The author(s) can use the authoring tool to produce web content that conforms to WCAG 2.0 Level A. (Level A) 
21:50:03 <Jan> Action JR: Write some intent text for B.1.1.1 to explain that instead of accessibility supported uses we took the decision support approach in B.2.1
21:50:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-222 - Write some intent text for B.1.1.1 to explain that instead of accessibility supported uses we took the decision support approach in B.2.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2010-01-11].
21:50:23 <Jan> Topic: B.1.2.2 End Product Cannot Preserve Accessibility Information
21:52:25 <Jan> Resolution: Add JRs example to B.1.2.2 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0058.html
21:52:51 <Jan> Topic: B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A)
21:59:21 <Jan> Action JR: Add "Remember" sections in context as proposed text - also reword the "manual" check/repair clarifications to more positively portray automated and semi-autoameted without removing the possibility of the manual option
21:59:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Add "Remember" sections in context as proposed text - also reword the "manual" check/repair clarifications to more positively portray automated and semi-autoameted without removing the possibility of the manual option [on Jan Richards - due 2010-01-11].
22:00:33 <Zakim> -Greg_Pisocky
22:00:37 <Zakim> -Jan
22:00:39 <Zakim> -Jeanne
22:00:45 <Zakim> -Jutta
22:00:50 <Zakim> -ARonksley
22:01:01 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
22:01:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/04-au-minutes.html Jan
22:01:07 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public
22:01:11 <Jan> Zakim, bye
22:01:11 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Jeanne, Jan, Jutta, ARonksley, Greg_Pisocky, Tim_Boland
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22:01:16 <Jan> RRSAgent, bye
22:01:16 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/04-au-actions.rdf :
22:01:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to Take A.3.6 back to drawing board - add points about when to pass OS and when perhaps not [1]
22:01:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/04-au-irc#T21-32-23
22:01:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to To reword proposal with applicability instead of responsibility [2]
22:01:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/04-au-irc#T21-44-23
22:01:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to Write some intent text for B.1.1.1 to explain that instead of accessibility supported uses we took the decision support approach in B.2.1 [3]
22:01:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/04-au-irc#T21-50-03
22:01:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to Add "Remember" sections in context as proposed text - also reword the "manual" check/repair clarifications to more positively portray automated and semi-autoameted without removing the possibility of the manual option [4]
22:01:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/04-au-irc#T21-59-21