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13:43:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
13:43:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:43:48 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:43:48 <trackbot> Date: 09 September 2009
13:44:06 <Steven> zakim?
13:44:43 <Steven> zakim, hello?
13:44:43 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Steven.
13:44:50 <Steven> zakim, code?
13:44:50 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven
13:45:09 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
13:45:09 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has not yet started, Steven
13:45:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, mgylling, Steven, trackbot
13:50:21 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started
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13:50:27 <Zakim> +McCarron
13:50:33 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
13:50:33 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
13:50:34 <Zakim> +Steven
13:50:52 <mgylling> I am on another call that will end soon. Participating in IRC in the meanwhile.
13:51:02 <Steven> OK
13:51:10 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:51:13 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
13:51:32 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Sep/0006
13:52:53 <Steven> Topic: DOM3 Events
13:53:12 <Steven> Shane: We had asked them for an event DOMready rather than PageLoaded
13:54:56 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-DOM-Level-3-Events-20090908/
13:55:02 <Steven> Topic: DoC
13:56:25 <Steven> Shane: Issue 6143
13:57:35 <Steven> Steven: For XHTML 1.0? They're not going to let us reissue that
13:58:16 <ShaneM> Tracker is at http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues.private
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13:59:17 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes
14:00:44 <Zakim> + +46.7.06.02.aaaa
14:00:55 <mgylling> Zakim, aaaa is Markus
14:00:55 <Zakim> +Markus; got it
14:03:48 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html
14:07:19 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-xhtml-minutes.html
14:08:10 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes.html
14:09:00 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-xhtml-minutes.html
14:09:14 <Steven> THose are the meetings where we discussed issues from the tracking system
14:09:19 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:10:54 <Steven> Steven: I'm assuming we will produce an (automatic) DoC from the discussions above
14:11:54 <Steven> Shane: We agreed that it was an error, and that we would fix it in a third edition
14:12:00 <Steven> ... (which this wasn't)
14:12:20 <Steven> ... this is issue 6504
14:12:33 <Steven> ... but now we aren't reissuing, we don't have to worry
14:13:20 <Steven> ... (this is his issue 1)
14:16:41 <Steven> SHane: Issue 10
14:16:46 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
14:18:05 <Zakim> -Steven
14:18:14 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:18:14 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:18:16 <Zakim> +Steven
14:19:05 <ShaneM> we got your voice mail
14:19:24 <Steven> Low tech crap
14:19:31 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:19:31 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:19:33 <Zakim> +Steven.a
14:19:38 <ShaneM> I can't get it to hang up
14:19:51 <Steven> zakim, drop steven
14:19:51 <Zakim> Steven is being disconnected
14:19:53 <Zakim> -Steven
14:20:45 <Steven> Steven: In issue 3 we say that 5th edition is deliberately not used
14:21:27 <Steven> Shane: Issue 10 is about normative/non-normative
14:21:57 <Steven> ... let me do a quick diff
14:22:09 <Steven> ... I moved XML Names to normative
14:23:07 <Steven> Steven: Do we need separate sections for references?
14:24:30 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml11-20090507/
14:26:03 <Steven> Shane: Issue 6288 addresses this; that's your pointer
14:30:47 <Steven> Steven: XHTML1 is referenced in the abstract
14:31:10 <Steven> ... it may have been in section 2.1 originally, which now references the XHTMLMIME document
14:31:31 <Steven> Shane: I have moved it to nonnormative
14:32:28 <Steven> Shane: Namsespaces are referred to in conformance, that is already in the Normative refs
14:33:12 <Steven> Steven: His issue 24
14:35:57 <Steven> ... 1.1 says *and*, print says *or* and basic says *and/or*.
14:36:08 <Steven> ... I believe *and* is correct
14:37:25 <Steven> ... because if a document conforms to the DTD but not to the schema, then it contains an error
14:39:13 <Zakim> -Steven.a
14:39:16 <Steven> dammir
14:39:27 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:39:27 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:39:29 <Zakim> +Steven
14:39:54 <Steven> Shane: THe schema is more restrictive
14:40:00 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:40:31 <Steven> ... docs that conform to the DTD could fail with the schema, because of datatype checking
14:41:16 <Steven> Steven: Is there anything the DTD can check that the schema can't?
14:41:19 <Steven> Shane: I don't know
14:41:31 <Steven> ... Probably
14:41:58 <Steven> Steven: Possibly
14:44:16 <Steven> Steven: Well that wraps it for the issues I had.
14:44:24 <Steven> ... I'll create a new version, and send it round
14:44:51 <Zakim> -Markus
14:44:53 <Zakim> -Steven
14:44:54 <Zakim> -McCarron
14:44:54 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
14:44:56 <Zakim> Attendees were McCarron, Steven, +46.7.06.02.aaaa, Markus, Steven.a
14:45:11 <Steven> Shane: I'll try and produce the other DoCs in the interim.
14:45:16 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:45:22 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:45:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
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