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12:14:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3794
12:14:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
12:14:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
12:14:21 <trackbot> Date: 09 September 2009
12:15:10 <squillace> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Sep/0006.html
12:15:21 <squillace> Chair: Mike
12:15:59 <squillace> zakim, agenda+ EARL 1.0 Guide - review editorial changes
12:15:59 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
12:16:38 <squillace> zakim, agenda+ Document alignment - review editorial changes
12:16:38 <Zakim> agendum 2 added
12:17:07 <squillace> zakim, agenda+ Upcoming meeting schedule and timeline
12:17:07 <Zakim> agendum 3 added
12:20:55 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
12:21:02 <Zakim> + +1.512.286.aaaa
12:21:14 <squillace> zakim, +1.512 is squillace
12:21:14 <Zakim> +squillace; got it
12:27:36 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
12:27:36 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
12:27:37 <Zakim> +Shadi
12:29:20 <JohannesK> JohannesK has joined #er
12:30:41 <Zakim> +??P10
12:30:54 <JohannesK> Zakim, ??P10 is really me
12:30:54 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
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12:31:50 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
12:33:15 <cvelasco> zakim, klaus is really cvelasco
12:33:15 <Zakim> +cvelasco; got it
12:34:23 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
12:34:42 <squillace> zakim, next agendum
12:34:42 <Zakim> agendum 1. "EARL 1.0 Guide - review editorial changes" taken up [from squillace]
12:34:50 <squillace> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Sep/0002
12:35:06 <squillace> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Guide-20090723.html
12:35:35 <shadi> MS: most changes were editorial or minor grammatical
12:35:58 <shadi> ...had to change the word wrapping to be able to read the code
12:36:15 <shadi> ...need to take care about word wrapping
12:36:23 <shadi> CV: will try post-processing
12:36:27 <JohannesK> :-( <http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FER%2FEARL10%2FWD-EARL10-Guide-20090723.html>
12:37:52 <shadi> JK: several invalid code issues
12:38:47 <shadi> ...several block letter elements that are wrapped in a <p> element
12:39:33 <JohannesK> s/letter/level/
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12:44:43 <Zakim> + +98439aabb
12:45:17 <shadi> zakim, aabb is CarlosI
12:45:17 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
12:46:08 <shadi> MS: should we be creating new drafts or edit in place?
12:46:29 <shadi> SAZ: better to create new editor drafts and work on these
12:46:48 <shadi> ...and keep the previous drafts that were ready for publication as rollback
12:47:46 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Guide-20090702
12:50:24 <shadi> MS: should we used "ED" and "WD" in the files names to help identify them?
12:50:28 <shadi> SAZ: yes
12:51:18 <shadi> MS: will create a new draft
12:51:32 <shadi> SAZ: will rollback july 23rd version
12:53:52 <shadi> CV: you introduced "ontology"
12:54:10 <shadi> MS: yes, will change to "vocabuary"
12:56:59 <shadi> MS: example 3.2 mismatches the description
12:57:06 <shadi> CV: wrong source code
12:57:13 <shadi> ...will fix it
13:04:25 <shadi> MS: need to highlight the relevant parts of the code
13:04:51 <shadi> CV: can add comments to the code and highlight visually
13:05:47 <shadi> MS: RFC keyword description hanging at the end of section 2
13:06:15 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF10-20090908.html
13:08:39 <shadi> SAZ: trying to structure all documents consistently
13:09:02 <shadi> ...with an "audience of this document" and "document conventions" sections
13:09:11 <shadi> MS: should add these
13:11:32 <shadi> MS: what does "However, this original aim has been
13:11:32 <shadi> expanded to cover wider testing scenarios."
13:11:44 <shadi> ...actually mean? no examples provided
13:15:26 <shadi> SAZ: would word it differently, the accessibility aspect continues to be the primary motivation
13:19:47 <shadi> ...EARL was always designed to be generic QA beyond accessibility only
13:20:25 <shadi> MS: definition of aggregation is different from what we had agreed on
13:21:09 <shadi> JK: says "different sets of test results" - so different reports
13:21:39 <shadi> ...but could make it a little clearer
13:23:00 <shadi> MS: it says "EARL enables ..." so may be ok
13:26:59 <shadi> (1) MS will do some changes and create a new document; (2) CV will continue work from that draft; (3) SAZ will rollback July 23rd draft
13:27:09 <squillace> zakim, next agendum
13:27:09 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Document alignment - review editorial changes" taken up [from squillace]
13:27:47 <squillace> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Sep/0005>
13:27:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090908.html
13:27:55 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF10-20090908.html
13:29:28 <squillace> SAZ: moved links other docs from abstract to intro
13:29:53 <squillace> ...added boilerplate sections for audience of doc and doc conventions
13:30:31 <squillace> ...e.g. keywords, namespaces
13:31:13 <squillace> ...removed tables for formatting namespaces - should this be DL, UL, or TABLE?
13:34:01 <squillace> zakim, next agendum
13:34:01 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Upcoming meeting schedule and timeline" taken up [from squillace]
13:34:17 <Zakim> -cvelasco
13:34:30 <squillace> next meeting 09/16
13:34:38 <Zakim> -JohannesK
13:34:44 <Zakim> -CarlosI
13:34:54 <Zakim> -squillace
13:34:58 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:34:59 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
13:35:00 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.512.286.aaaa, squillace, Shadi, JohannesK, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, cvelasco, +98439aabb, CarlosI
14:48:02 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:48:02 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:48:02 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:48:03 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:48:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-er-minutes.html trackbot
14:48:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:48:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items