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<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips
<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillips
<David> early start?
Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue
addison: set up document edit transition with dan for ws-i18n
richard: publish i18n-guide-frameword as (retired, obsolete) WD
<scribe> DONE
David: coordinate getting new dst scheduling
<scribe> IN PROGRESS
david: please sent any 100% bad days/times so I can offer palatable alternatives
Richard: publish bidi techniquest document
<scribe> DONE
all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly)
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/planet/
richard: our planeti18n page now
aggregates twitter streams
... and I heard that DOM3 text events is headed for LC
... want us to look at it, especially keyevents
... has changes some, but perhaps not a lot??
addison: rfc5646 is published
<fsasaki> congrats!
<scribe> chair: anything we want to cover this week?
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: adminishment to look at the document for next week
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JulSep/0072.html
<fsasaki> addison: ws/wss comes out of HTML5
<fsasaki> .. a web service URI scheme, to ask something on a server, without using e.g. HTTP
<fsasaki> .. for a new URI scheme you need to register it with IANA
<fsasaki> .. I saw discussions on the URI list
<fsasaki> .. Hixie is author of internet draft requesting reservation for the scheme
<fsasaki> .. Hixie wants the scheme to be an IRI, but the registry is for URI schemes
<fsasaki> .. so problem is how to achieve that
<DavidClarke> zakim ??p2 is David
<fsasaki> .. IRI is not prepared for handy referencing from URI perspective
<fsasaki> .. if you have an IRI, there are mechanisms to get to URI space
<fsasaki> .. but not all URIs are IRIs
<fsasaki> .. so it is a problem of mapping from IRI to URI
<fsasaki> .. this is not only the ws scheme proposal, but also e.g. the widgets scheme
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JulSep/0041.html
<fsasaki> .. see discussion above, similar problem
<fsasaki> richard: is that not described in IRI spec?
<fsasaki> addison: there is no abnf for that
<fsasaki> .. and there is a lot of text about it
<fsasaki> ... is it just unclear how the reference should be
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt
<fsasaki> .. e..g there is sec. 7 and 5 different ways to do the URI / IRI processing, normalization etc.
<fsasaki> richard: that is an informative section
<fsasaki> addison: yes
<scribe> ACTION: addison: reply to art barstow on the widgets issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-core-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: addison: reply to uri@, etc. on ws scheme issue recommending reference to section 3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-core-minutes.html#action02]
congratulations
richard: sent a message to martin and some others
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Sep/0009.html
richard: if everyone happy we
could publish soon
... let's go through
... mostly about links
... css2 link
I did this, but the generic latest version URI points to CSS2.1, not CSS2. The choice was to use a dated URI or change the text of the reference to say that this points to a Candidate Rec with a different name. I figured that the latter might be less complicated for the reader, so I did that. I have to say, it seems like an odd situation that a generic URI that pointed to a Rec now points to a CR, but there you go.
(quoted from email)
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charreq-edit/
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-charreq
link to 2.0 now redirects to 2.1
<r12a> The wording of the 1998 version remains unchanged (except for correction of a small number of typographic errors), but the links to references have been updated prior to this publication.
This document is being published as a Working Group note in order to capture and preserve historical information. It contains requirements elaborated in 1998 for aspects of the character model for W3C specifications. It was developed and extensively reviewed by the Internationalization Working Group, and is being published by its successor, the Internationalization Core Working Group, part of the W3C Internationalization Activity. The wording of the 1998 ver
addison: good
richard: that explains how we can ref css2.1 when doc written in 1998
addison: just references specs that use unicode... so okay
richard: iso6937... change to
6937-2001
... martin also gave alternative for 8859-1 refs
okay
updated 10646 to 2003 ver
okay
updated RFC refs
unicode ref: generic reference to ver 5.1
okay
either 3986 or 2396?
stuck in 3986
okay
xml: doesn't say 5e, but that's the link
okay
published vs. produced for patent policy...
<r12a> A need for specifications in the areas addressed by this document has directly been expressed by (in particular at the "Query Language Meeting" in April 1998 in Brisbane) the following W3C Working Groups or specifications:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/9804/querylanguages.html
that link is [MO]
richard: just remove the link,
since minutes from that meeting are kind of stale and not that
germane any more?
... or just remove the ref altogheter
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/9804/querylanguages.html
david: could just mention generically ("there was a query language meeting back in 1998...")
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-cg/1998AprJun/0043.html
richard: if no objections, then wait for Martin to express happiness and the proceed to publish?
This document is being published as a Working Group note in order to capture and preserve historical information. It contains requirements elaborated in 1998 for aspects of the character model for W3C specifications. It was developed and extensively reviewed by the Internationalization Working Group, and is being published by its successor, the Internationalization Core Working Group, part of the W3C Internationalization Activity. The wording of the 1998 ver
<r12a> Comments on this document can be sent to www-international@w3.org (publicly archived), but it should be borne in mind that the note is being published to preserve historical information, and the viewpoints expressed in the document should be considered in that light.
"cool"
<scribe> chair: resolution to publish provided that Martin is happy?
<fsasaki> +1
+1
<r12a> +1
<DavidClarke> +1
motion carried
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Jul/0017.html
http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/WorkingWithTimeZones
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