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14:59:30 <shadi> zakim, this will be bad
14:59:30 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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15:00:37 <Zakim> WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM has now started
15:00:44 <Zakim> + +31.30.239.aaaa
15:01:04 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
15:01:04 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
15:01:05 <Zakim> +Shadi
15:01:19 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is Wilco
15:01:21 <Zakim> +Wilco; got it
15:01:22 <Zakim> + +1.714.968.aabb
15:01:30 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0009.html
15:01:39 <shadi> zakim, aabb is Tom
15:01:39 <Zakim> +Tom; got it
15:01:51 <shadi> agenda+ Reporting Table
15:01:54 <Michael> Michael has joined #badtf
15:02:00 <shadi> agenda+ Review Comments
15:02:07 <shadi> agenda+ Next meetings
15:02:22 <shadi> chair: Shadi
15:02:28 <shadi> regrets: none
15:03:02 <eric> eric has joined #badtf
15:03:29 <Zakim> + +49.173.673.aacc
15:03:49 <eric> Zakim, aacc is me
15:03:49 <Zakim> +eric; got it
15:04:41 <Zakim> +Michael
15:05:37 <shadi> zakim, pick a victim
15:05:37 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Wilco
15:05:49 <Michael> zakim, mute me
15:05:49 <Zakim> Michael should now be muted
15:05:51 <shadi> zakim, pick a victim
15:05:51 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose eric
15:06:12 <shadi> scribe: Eric
15:06:18 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:06:18 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Reporting Table" taken up [from shadi]
15:06:48 <Wilco> http://fiers.name/badtf/report/report.htm
15:08:24 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0007.html
15:08:30 <eric> Wilco: I’m currently working on implementing some of the new suggestion we got in the emails. We should just go through the comments.
15:08:54 <Michael> zakim, unmute me
15:08:54 <Zakim> Michael should no longer be muted
15:11:36 <eric> Discussion on the collapse/uncollapse toggles. The group discusses plus and minus toggles, Wilco will incorporate them.
15:11:55 <eric> Shadi: In the latest stages we will bring it into EO as well.
15:12:12 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/report
15:18:15 <eric> Discussion about the sections and emphasizing the indentation with horizontal lines which should probably start in the third column.
15:18:53 <eric> Tom: Expand all/Collaps all would be very cool.
15:20:55 <Michael> q+
15:21:14 <Michael> ack m
15:21:39 <eric> Shadi: We should play around with the line thickness and appearance.
15:22:57 <eric> Michael: We don’t need to collapse the principles, it should be enough to have the success criterions visible.
15:23:28 <eric> Wilco: I’d like to keep the possibility to collapse them, but we should make them open by default.
15:25:42 <eric> Michael: Removing the green and red border from the result column, leave them out is looking cleaner.
15:27:34 <eric> Wilco: I’d like to leave it in.
15:28:52 <eric> Michael: It looks quite weird. Probably a border on the left and right would be ok.
15:29:08 <eric> Wilco will try this out.
15:30:34 <eric> The group decides to align the terms column left.
15:33:13 <eric> The group decides that it is useful to have the third level collapsable.
15:34:34 <eric> Collapse all should collaps all nodes not only the top level.
15:37:13 <eric> Discussion about the N/A icon…
15:37:39 <eric> Wilco: Adding N/A to the image?
15:38:35 <eric> Tom: Just use N/A as letters, there is no icon for not applicable.
15:39:10 <eric> The group decides to use letters N/A for "not applicable"
15:39:32 <eric> Shadi: When do we use icons? when text?
15:40:30 <eric> Wilco: We use the icons with the success criterions, and we have smaller icons on deeper levels.
15:43:13 <eric> Michael: We should change the mouse cursor when we come close to the icon. It is not apparent that you can click the entire row.
15:44:53 <eric> Wilco: I can change the cursor on the table cell around the icon.
15:47:04 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0008.html
15:47:55 <eric> The group decides to have term and description text size the same with sufficient techniques.
15:51:05 <eric> Group discusses about the term "Term" and we’ll try it with "Title" for that column.
15:51:41 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:51:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review Comments" taken up [from shadi]
15:51:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/comments
15:52:44 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2009/08/05-badtf-minutes.html
15:53:44 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-badtf-minutes.html
15:55:36 <eric> Comment #28: accept and fix
15:56:15 <eric> Comment #29: pending, will sort itself out
15:57:16 <eric> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Aug/0029.html
15:58:50 <eric> Comment #30: reject
16:00:43 <eric> Comment 31: Add text "required if not otherwise noted"
16:01:20 <eric> Comment #32: fix
16:02:19 <eric> Comment #33: pending, have another look
16:03:48 <eric> Comment #34: agree and fix
16:08:10 <eric> Comment #35: accept and check for wording
16:09:56 <eric> Comment #36: explain in the annotations
16:11:52 <eric> Comment #37: explain in the annotations
16:12:07 <eric> Comment #38: accept, check for appropriate summary text
16:12:19 <eric> Comment #39: pending, check it
16:12:44 <shadi> zakim, take up next
16:12:44 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Next meetings" taken up [from shadi]
16:13:32 <Zakim> -eric
16:13:45 <Zakim> -Michael
16:13:46 <eric> next meeting: September 16th
16:13:52 <shadi> next meeting: 16 September
16:13:57 <Zakim> -Shadi
16:14:22 <Zakim> -Tom
16:15:33 <Wilco> Wilco has left #badtf
16:19:22 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Wilco, in WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM
16:19:25 <Zakim> WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM has ended
16:19:26 <Zakim> Attendees were +31.30.239.aaaa, Shadi, Wilco, +1.714.968.aabb, Tom, +49.173.673.aacc, eric, Michael
16:20:08 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
16:20:18 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:20:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-badtf-minutes.html shadi
16:20:22 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
16:20:27 <shadi> zakim, bye
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16:20:32 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
16:20:32 <RRSAgent> I see no action items