IRC log of badtf on 2009-09-09

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14:59:23 [Zakim]
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14:59:30 [shadi]
zakim, this will be bad
14:59:30 [Zakim]
ok, shadi; I see WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM has now started
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+ +31.30.239.aaaa
15:01:04 [shadi]
zakim, call shadi-617
15:01:04 [Zakim]
ok, shadi; the call is being made
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+Shadi
15:01:19 [shadi]
zakim, aaaa is Wilco
15:01:21 [Zakim]
+Wilco; got it
15:01:22 [Zakim]
+ +1.714.968.aabb
15:01:30 [shadi]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0009.html
15:01:39 [shadi]
zakim, aabb is Tom
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+Tom; got it
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agenda+ Reporting Table
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agenda+ Review Comments
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agenda+ Next meetings
15:02:22 [shadi]
chair: Shadi
15:02:28 [shadi]
regrets: none
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+ +49.173.673.aacc
15:03:49 [eric]
Zakim, aacc is me
15:03:49 [Zakim]
+eric; got it
15:04:41 [Zakim]
+Michael
15:05:37 [shadi]
zakim, pick a victim
15:05:37 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Wilco
15:05:49 [Michael]
zakim, mute me
15:05:49 [Zakim]
Michael should now be muted
15:05:51 [shadi]
zakim, pick a victim
15:05:51 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose eric
15:06:12 [shadi]
scribe: Eric
15:06:18 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 1
15:06:18 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Reporting Table" taken up [from shadi]
15:06:48 [Wilco]
http://fiers.name/badtf/report/report.htm
15:08:24 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0007.html
15:08:30 [eric]
Wilco: I’m currently working on implementing some of the new suggestion we got in the emails. We should just go through the comments.
15:08:54 [Michael]
zakim, unmute me
15:08:54 [Zakim]
Michael should no longer be muted
15:11:36 [eric]
Discussion on the collapse/uncollapse toggles. The group discusses plus and minus toggles, Wilco will incorporate them.
15:11:55 [eric]
Shadi: In the latest stages we will bring it into EO as well.
15:12:12 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/report
15:18:15 [eric]
Discussion about the sections and emphasizing the indentation with horizontal lines which should probably start in the third column.
15:18:53 [eric]
Tom: Expand all/Collaps all would be very cool.
15:20:55 [Michael]
q+
15:21:14 [Michael]
ack m
15:21:39 [eric]
Shadi: We should play around with the line thickness and appearance.
15:22:57 [eric]
Michael: We don’t need to collapse the principles, it should be enough to have the success criterions visible.
15:23:28 [eric]
Wilco: I’d like to keep the possibility to collapse them, but we should make them open by default.
15:25:42 [eric]
Michael: Removing the green and red border from the result column, leave them out is looking cleaner.
15:27:34 [eric]
Wilco: I’d like to leave it in.
15:28:52 [eric]
Michael: It looks quite weird. Probably a border on the left and right would be ok.
15:29:08 [eric]
Wilco will try this out.
15:30:34 [eric]
The group decides to align the terms column left.
15:33:13 [eric]
The group decides that it is useful to have the third level collapsable.
15:34:34 [eric]
Collapse all should collaps all nodes not only the top level.
15:37:13 [eric]
Discussion about the N/A icon…
15:37:39 [eric]
Wilco: Adding N/A to the image?
15:38:35 [eric]
Tom: Just use N/A as letters, there is no icon for not applicable.
15:39:10 [eric]
The group decides to use letters N/A for "not applicable"
15:39:32 [eric]
Shadi: When do we use icons? when text?
15:40:30 [eric]
Wilco: We use the icons with the success criterions, and we have smaller icons on deeper levels.
15:43:13 [eric]
Michael: We should change the mouse cursor when we come close to the icon. It is not apparent that you can click the entire row.
15:44:53 [eric]
Wilco: I can change the cursor on the table cell around the icon.
15:47:04 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0008.html
15:47:55 [eric]
The group decides to have term and description text size the same with sufficient techniques.
15:51:05 [eric]
Group discusses about the term "Term" and we’ll try it with "Title" for that column.
15:51:41 [shadi]
zakim, take up next
15:51:41 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Review Comments" taken up [from shadi]
15:51:47 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/comments
15:52:44 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2009/08/05-badtf-minutes.html
15:53:44 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-badtf-minutes.html
15:55:36 [eric]
Comment #28: accept and fix
15:56:15 [eric]
Comment #29: pending, will sort itself out
15:57:16 [eric]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Aug/0029.html
15:58:50 [eric]
Comment #30: reject
16:00:43 [eric]
Comment 31: Add text "required if not otherwise noted"
16:01:20 [eric]
Comment #32: fix
16:02:19 [eric]
Comment #33: pending, have another look
16:03:48 [eric]
Comment #34: agree and fix
16:08:10 [eric]
Comment #35: accept and check for wording
16:09:56 [eric]
Comment #36: explain in the annotations
16:11:52 [eric]
Comment #37: explain in the annotations
16:12:07 [eric]
Comment #38: accept, check for appropriate summary text
16:12:19 [eric]
Comment #39: pending, check it
16:12:44 [shadi]
zakim, take up next
16:12:44 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Next meetings" taken up [from shadi]
16:13:32 [Zakim]
-eric
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-Michael
16:13:46 [eric]
next meeting: September 16th
16:13:52 [shadi]
next meeting: 16 September
16:13:57 [Zakim]
-Shadi
16:14:22 [Zakim]
-Tom
16:15:33 [Wilco]
Wilco has left #badtf
16:19:22 [Zakim]
disconnecting the lone participant, Wilco, in WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM
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WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +31.30.239.aaaa, Shadi, Wilco, +1.714.968.aabb, Tom, +49.173.673.aacc, eric, Michael
16:20:08 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-badtf-minutes.html shadi
16:20:22 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
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zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
16:20:32 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items