IRC log of badtf on 2009-09-09
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-badtf-irc
- 14:59:23 [Zakim]
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- 14:59:30 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be bad
- 14:59:30 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; I see WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
- 15:00:18 [Tom_]
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- 15:00:37 [Zakim]
- WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM has now started
- 15:00:44 [Zakim]
- + +31.30.239.aaaa
- 15:01:04 [shadi]
- zakim, call shadi-617
- 15:01:04 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; the call is being made
- 15:01:05 [Zakim]
- +Shadi
- 15:01:19 [shadi]
- zakim, aaaa is Wilco
- 15:01:21 [Zakim]
- +Wilco; got it
- 15:01:22 [Zakim]
- + +1.714.968.aabb
- 15:01:30 [shadi]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0009.html
- 15:01:39 [shadi]
- zakim, aabb is Tom
- 15:01:39 [Zakim]
- +Tom; got it
- 15:01:51 [shadi]
- agenda+ Reporting Table
- 15:01:54 [Michael]
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- agenda+ Review Comments
- 15:02:07 [shadi]
- agenda+ Next meetings
- 15:02:22 [shadi]
- chair: Shadi
- 15:02:28 [shadi]
- regrets: none
- 15:03:02 [eric]
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- 15:03:29 [Zakim]
- + +49.173.673.aacc
- 15:03:49 [eric]
- Zakim, aacc is me
- 15:03:49 [Zakim]
- +eric; got it
- 15:04:41 [Zakim]
- +Michael
- 15:05:37 [shadi]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:05:37 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Wilco
- 15:05:49 [Michael]
- zakim, mute me
- 15:05:49 [Zakim]
- Michael should now be muted
- 15:05:51 [shadi]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:05:51 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose eric
- 15:06:12 [shadi]
- scribe: Eric
- 15:06:18 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 15:06:18 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Reporting Table" taken up [from shadi]
- 15:06:48 [Wilco]
- http://fiers.name/badtf/report/report.htm
- 15:08:24 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0007.html
- 15:08:30 [eric]
- Wilco: I’m currently working on implementing some of the new suggestion we got in the emails. We should just go through the comments.
- 15:08:54 [Michael]
- zakim, unmute me
- 15:08:54 [Zakim]
- Michael should no longer be muted
- 15:11:36 [eric]
- Discussion on the collapse/uncollapse toggles. The group discusses plus and minus toggles, Wilco will incorporate them.
- 15:11:55 [eric]
- Shadi: In the latest stages we will bring it into EO as well.
- 15:12:12 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/report
- 15:18:15 [eric]
- Discussion about the sections and emphasizing the indentation with horizontal lines which should probably start in the third column.
- 15:18:53 [eric]
- Tom: Expand all/Collaps all would be very cool.
- 15:20:55 [Michael]
- q+
- 15:21:14 [Michael]
- ack m
- 15:21:39 [eric]
- Shadi: We should play around with the line thickness and appearance.
- 15:22:57 [eric]
- Michael: We don’t need to collapse the principles, it should be enough to have the success criterions visible.
- 15:23:28 [eric]
- Wilco: I’d like to keep the possibility to collapse them, but we should make them open by default.
- 15:25:42 [eric]
- Michael: Removing the green and red border from the result column, leave them out is looking cleaner.
- 15:27:34 [eric]
- Wilco: I’d like to leave it in.
- 15:28:52 [eric]
- Michael: It looks quite weird. Probably a border on the left and right would be ok.
- 15:29:08 [eric]
- Wilco will try this out.
- 15:30:34 [eric]
- The group decides to align the terms column left.
- 15:33:13 [eric]
- The group decides that it is useful to have the third level collapsable.
- 15:34:34 [eric]
- Collapse all should collaps all nodes not only the top level.
- 15:37:13 [eric]
- Discussion about the N/A icon…
- 15:37:39 [eric]
- Wilco: Adding N/A to the image?
- 15:38:35 [eric]
- Tom: Just use N/A as letters, there is no icon for not applicable.
- 15:39:10 [eric]
- The group decides to use letters N/A for "not applicable"
- 15:39:32 [eric]
- Shadi: When do we use icons? when text?
- 15:40:30 [eric]
- Wilco: We use the icons with the success criterions, and we have smaller icons on deeper levels.
- 15:43:13 [eric]
- Michael: We should change the mouse cursor when we come close to the icon. It is not apparent that you can click the entire row.
- 15:44:53 [eric]
- Wilco: I can change the cursor on the table cell around the icon.
- 15:47:04 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Sep/0008.html
- 15:47:55 [eric]
- The group decides to have term and description text size the same with sufficient techniques.
- 15:51:05 [eric]
- Group discusses about the term "Term" and we’ll try it with "Title" for that column.
- 15:51:41 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 15:51:41 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Review Comments" taken up [from shadi]
- 15:51:47 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/comments
- 15:52:44 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/08/05-badtf-minutes.html
- 15:53:44 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-badtf-minutes.html
- 15:55:36 [eric]
- Comment #28: accept and fix
- 15:56:15 [eric]
- Comment #29: pending, will sort itself out
- 15:57:16 [eric]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Aug/0029.html
- 15:58:50 [eric]
- Comment #30: reject
- 16:00:43 [eric]
- Comment 31: Add text "required if not otherwise noted"
- 16:01:20 [eric]
- Comment #32: fix
- 16:02:19 [eric]
- Comment #33: pending, have another look
- 16:03:48 [eric]
- Comment #34: agree and fix
- 16:08:10 [eric]
- Comment #35: accept and check for wording
- 16:09:56 [eric]
- Comment #36: explain in the annotations
- 16:11:52 [eric]
- Comment #37: explain in the annotations
- 16:12:07 [eric]
- Comment #38: accept, check for appropriate summary text
- 16:12:19 [eric]
- Comment #39: pending, check it
- 16:12:44 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 16:12:44 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Next meetings" taken up [from shadi]
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- -eric
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- -Michael
- 16:13:46 [eric]
- next meeting: September 16th
- 16:13:52 [shadi]
- next meeting: 16 September
- 16:13:57 [Zakim]
- -Shadi
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- -Tom
- 16:15:33 [Wilco]
- Wilco has left #badtf
- 16:19:22 [Zakim]
- disconnecting the lone participant, Wilco, in WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM
- 16:19:25 [Zakim]
- WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM has ended
- 16:19:26 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +31.30.239.aaaa, Shadi, Wilco, +1.714.968.aabb, Tom, +49.173.673.aacc, eric, Michael
- 16:20:08 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 16:20:18 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 16:20:18 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-badtf-minutes.html shadi
- 16:20:22 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
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- zakim, bye
- 16:20:27 [Zakim]
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- 16:20:32 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 16:20:32 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items