<andrew> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/tpac2009/
Andrew: please update if you will attend the TPAC in November 2009 in California
<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wai-age/teleconf-plans.html
Andrew: please check your upcoming availability and advise me
http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-PWD-Use-Web.html
http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html
Andrew: documents needs an
update
... we need to add at least two more scenarios with older
people
Andrew: identification of out-of-date technologies (assistive technologies and web technologies)
scenario 1 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#shopper
Darren: "most newer sites the
colors were controlled by style sheets " -> "most sites the
colors were controlled by style sheets"
... this is commonplace technology now-days
jack: typo "When he first starting using the Web"
scenario 2 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#reporter
Andrew: we have to verify if the
conflict between speech recognition and streaming audio is
still realistic
... asks about the access key. shall we change this?
Michael: we should change access keys example maybe to web applications that can be used with the keyboard
helle: access keys are more often
used in desktop applications
... access keys might also be a question of localisation (L12N)
Andrew: maybe jumping from Headline to headline might be part of the scenario
Helle: can ask somebody who uses
speech recognition how he is working with that
... ... for a realistic scenario
Andrew: ... he is using an authoring tool with full keyboard support - ok?
All: that is fine
scenario 3 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#onlinestudent
Jack / Andrew: refer to WCAG 2.0
Darren / Michael / Helle: should not mention SMIL but make it more general
michael: online media player supporting captions
Helle: maybe add a note about the advantage of multimedia with caption which can be used to translate the multimedia
scenario 4 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#accountant
Helle:at the time this was originally written, written the tabbing was more important
Andrew: jumping to headings is more important now
Darren: mention heading structure
Michael: and skip links
Helle: seems a little bit outdated
<scribe> ACTION: Michael - will collect a few ideas for rewriting the section on the blind accountant and send it to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/12-waiage-minutes.html#action01]
Andrew: we should also double check with screen reader users if the information re browser synchronisation is realistic
scenario 5 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#classroomstudent
Jack: "She was initially worried about reading load" -> "She was initially worried about her reading load"
Helle / Andrew: check about how "freeze the animated graphics" & "variety of searching strategies" are covered by WCAG 2.0
Michael: maybe we should replace the section "variety of searching strategies" with a more appropriate technique from WCAG 2.0
scenario 6 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#retiree
Michael: assistive technologies (screen magnifiers) are not widely used among older people. maybe we can change that to resizable text without overlapping, copping of text
Andrew: we can introduce new scenarios, e.g. an older worker
scenario 7 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#supermarketassistant
Andrew: we should check again the "different search options" how they might refer to WCAG 2.0
Helle: scenario was built on a real person
Jack: why is it emphasized here that the site was more usable? that is also true for other scenarios
All: maybe this could be drawn out at the start of end of the scenarios
scenario 8 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#teenager
Andrew: has difficulty with
this scenario
... its not realistic for teenagers in UK & Australia - but might be in some
cultures
<andrew> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6703399.ece
Jack: maybe she could use a mobile device
Darren: maybe we could include online communities
Andrew: we maybe have to rethink this scenario or introduce another scenario
Michael: online entertainment is an important topic
Helle: maybe the student with dyslexia might use online communities
Andrew: please read through this
document and send ideas and thoughts to the list
... please update the TPAC questionnaire (and put the date in the comments when
you have updated it)