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19:45:50 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
19:45:51 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 45 minutes ago
19:45:56 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
19:46:12 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0036.html
19:46:33 <Jan> Regrets: Tim B., Ann M.
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19:59:55 <Jan> zakim, code?
19:59:55 <Zakim> the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Jan
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20:00:18 <Zakim> +Jeanne
20:00:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:02 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
20:01:02 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
20:02:19 <Zakim> +??P7
20:02:41 <Jan> zakim, ??P7 is really Andrew
20:02:41 <Zakim> +Andrew; got it
20:03:04 <Zakim> +??P8
20:03:17 <Jan> zakim, ??P8 is really JuttaT
20:03:17 <Zakim> +JuttaT; got it
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20:05:28 <Jan> Chair: Jutta
20:07:51 <Jan> Chair: Jan
20:08:18 <Jan> Scribe: Greg
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20:09:00 <Jan> Topic: Determine whether to publish the new Editor's Draft as a Public WD
20:09:29 <Greg> Call out sections that are new or changed
20:09:46 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2009/ED-ATAG20-20090512/
20:10:01 <Greg> Options are accept, change prior to release as public working draft
20:10:19 <Zakim> + +1.561.582.aaaa
20:10:36 <Jan> zakim, aaaa is really SueAnn
20:10:36 <Zakim> +SueAnn; got it
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20:12:14 <Jan> Authoring tools are just one aspect of Web accessibility....
20:12:21 <jtrevir> First changes to introduction. 3rd note under first paragraph.
20:12:27 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2009/ED-ATAG20-20090512/
20:12:33 <jeanne> +1 accept
20:12:50 <jtrevir> No objections accepted.
20:12:54 <Greg> Note 3 in Introduction "Authoring tools are just one aspect of accessibility... ACCEPTED
20:13:05 <Jan> All: Accept new org. of componetnst of accessibility.
20:13:50 <jtrevir> 2nd: Change to notes in definition, range of tools ATAG replies to. In response to Greg's comments.
20:13:58 <Jan> Topic: 1.ATAG 2.0 applies to a wide variety of Web content generating applications...
20:14:00 <Zakim> -JuttaT
20:14:04 <Greg> Change to notes in Definition "ATAG 2.0 applies to a wide variety..."
20:14:27 <Zakim> +??P8
20:14:30 <Jan> GP: Meets my concerns
20:14:57 <Jan> zakim, ??P8 is really JuttaT
20:14:57 <Zakim> +JuttaT; got it
20:15:43 <jeanne> +1 acce[t
20:15:45 <Jan> All: Accept wording of range of authoring tools
20:15:54 <Jan> Topic: ATAG 2.0 Layers of Guidance
20:16:23 <jtrevir> 3rd: layers of guidance, adapted from WCAG.
20:16:33 <Greg> ATAG 2.0 Layers of Guidance Replaces Organization of the Document
20:18:52 <Jan> All: Accept "layers of guidance"
20:19:13 <Greg> Editor's note can be removed
20:19:29 <Jan> Topic: Relationship to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0
20:21:00 <jtrevir> Reference to WCAG 1.0 removed.
20:24:01 <jtrevir> First bullet revised.
20:24:06 <Jan> GP: Wonder about third bullet...
20:25:00 <jtrevir> GP: evidence of conformance requiring content is a concern
20:26:09 <jtrevir> Should this section be normative or informative?
20:26:49 <jtrevir> GP: May not be possible to provide content in a conformance claim
20:27:03 <jtrevir> JR: is the 3rd bullet required?
20:27:38 <jtrevir> Jeanne: It should be removed, as it is inconsistent.
20:27:42 <Jan> Action jeanne: Remove •ATAG 2.0 Conformance Claims are to be supported by examples of Web content produced by the authoring tool (e.g., samples of automatically-generated content) that conform to WCAG 2.0. 
20:27:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-145 - Remove •ATAG 2.0 Conformance Claims are to be supported by examples of Web content produced by the authoring tool (e.g., samples of automatically-generated content) that conform to WCAG 2.0.  [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-05-25].
20:28:25 <jtrevir> JR: any other objection? 
20:28:37 <Jan> All: No other objections to rewording of "Relationship to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0"
20:28:59 <jtrevir> All: section is normative.
20:29:30 <Jan> Resolved: Add "This section is normative." to Relationship to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0" section
20:30:34 <jtrevir> To be explicitly noted with section.
20:31:03 <Jan> Resolved: "Integration of Accessibility Features " and "ATAG 2.0 Layers of Guidance" remain infromative
20:31:32 <Zakim> -JuttaT
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20:33:17 <jtrevir> GP: B .1.3.1 Priority level not noted.
20:33:22 <Jan> Action jeanne: B.3.1.1 add Level
20:33:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-146 - B.3.1.1 add Level [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-05-25].
20:33:46 <jtrevir> GP: There are two B.2.4.4s
20:33:47 <Jan> Action jeanne: B.2.4.4 to B.2.4.5
20:33:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-147 - B.2.4.4 to B.2.4.5 [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-05-25].
20:34:48 <jtrevir> GP: Have created analysis of success criteria for editors draft.
20:36:16 <jtrevir> GP: with a breakdown of priority levels. Created as indicator of effort required for task of compliance. 
20:36:45 <jtrevir> GP: will send it along to working group.
20:37:34 <Jan> Topic: Guideline B.1.1 Support Web content technologies that enable the creation of content that is accessible
20:38:13 <jtrevir> JR: Was broken down into 3 levels of compliance.
20:38:26 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#new-terms
20:38:38 <jtrevir> Referencing WCAG 2.0
20:41:05 <jtrevir> WCAG does not break the definition of accessible technologies into levels.
20:41:42 <jtrevir> GP: Automatically selected for what?
20:43:48 <Jan> Action jeanne: Label B.1.1 for F2F discussion
20:43:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-148 - Label B.1.1 for F2F discussion [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-05-25].
20:43:56 <Greg> B.1.1.1 for further discussion at face to face
20:44:38 <jtrevir> Topic: Level of Conformance
20:45:03 <Jan> ↑In order to ensure that the process of using ATAG 2.0 and WCAG 2.0 together in the development of authoring tools is as simple as possible
20:45:05 <Jan> ...
20:48:00 <Zakim> -??P8
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20:49:51 <jtrevir> JR: this is informative, suggest it be moved to an appendix.
20:50:09 <jtrevir> editorial changes and grammar edits required.
20:50:48 <Jan> JR: cannot make content accessible↑ => cannot make the authoring tool user interface accessible
20:51:44 <Jan> JR: 4th bullet: Success Criteria => Success Criterion
20:54:38 <jtrevir> Jeanne: Should this be in the introduction? Do not want it in an appendix, it will be ignored.
20:54:46 <Zakim> -Andrew
20:55:04 <jtrevir> Andrew, Greg and Jutta: should stay in.
20:55:15 <Andrew> My Skype just dropped out but i would agree with Jeanne
20:55:25 <jtrevir> JR: Suggested title: Understanding ATAG Conformance Levels
20:55:45 <jtrevir> JR: Move to last section of Introduction as informative section.
20:55:55 <Jan> Action jeanne: Move the section on setting Conformance Levels to the a new last sub-scetion in the Introduction
20:55:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-149 - Move the section on setting Conformance Levels to the a new last sub-scetion in the Introduction [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-05-25].
20:56:58 <Jan> First para: ↑In order to ensure that the process 
20:57:07 <Jan> ....might place on developers)
20:57:19 <Jan> DELETE: ↑Conformance Levels in Conformance Claims 
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20:58:21 <Jan> Topic: Publish Public WD?
20:58:29 <Jan> Andrew: Yes
20:58:40 <jtrevir> Greg: Yes
20:59:04 <jtrevir> Jeanne: Yes
20:59:12 <jtrevir> SueAnn: Yes
20:59:18 <jtrevir> Jutta: Yes
20:59:22 <jtrevir> Jan: Yes
20:59:36 <jtrevir> JR: will clean up draft and publish late this week.
20:59:55 <jtrevir> Next Week memorial day
21:00:01 <jtrevir> Will meet in 2 weeks time.
21:00:11 <jtrevir> 10 days from face to face
21:01:03 <jtrevir> 2 meetings in June before F2F
21:01:30 <jtrevir> SEnd any concerns before Last Call draft.
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21:03:30 <Jan> zakim, who's on the phone?
21:03:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jeanne
21:04:01 <Zakim> -Jeanne
21:04:02 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
21:04:04 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, Andrew, JuttaT, Greg_Pisocky, +1.561.582.aaaa, SueAnn
21:04:10 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
21:04:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/18-au-minutes.html Jan
21:04:15 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public
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