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14:43:49 <John_Boyer> zakim, this will be forms
14:43:49 <Zakim> ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:43:54 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
14:44:03 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
14:44:05 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
14:44:09 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Leigh
14:44:21 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0049.html
14:44:27 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0049.html
14:44:55 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started
14:45:02 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:45:08 <wiecha> zakim, [IBM] is wiecha
14:45:08 <Zakim> +wiecha; got it
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14:45:54 <nick> zakim, code?
14:45:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick
14:45:59 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
14:46:22 <Zakim> + +0207689aaaa
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14:46:32 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
14:46:39 <John_Boyer> Regrets-Leigh
14:46:45 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
14:46:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
14:46:51 <Zakim> + +1.650.515.aabb
14:47:04 <ebruchez> zakim, +1.650.515.aabb is ebruchez
14:47:04 <Zakim> +ebruchez; got it
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14:47:42 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
14:47:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see wiecha, John_Boyer, +0207689aaaa, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez
14:47:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see unl, ebruchez, prb1, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wiecha, Steven, nick, trackbot
14:47:56 <prb1> Zakim, I am +0207689aaaa
14:47:56 <Zakim> +prb1; got it
14:48:01 <Zakim> + +1.307.544.aacc
14:48:18 <unl> zakim, +1.307.544.aacc is me
14:48:18 <Zakim> +unl; got it
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14:51:24 <John_Boyer> scribe: Leigh
14:51:30 <John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
14:51:41 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
14:51:53 <unl> zakim, mute me
14:51:53 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
14:52:06 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
14:52:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see wiecha, John_Boyer, prb1, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez, unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz
14:52:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see klotz, unl, ebruchez, prb1, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wiecha, Steven, nick, trackbot
14:52:18 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:52:18 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:52:19 <Zakim> +Steven
14:53:14 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0049.html
14:53:42 <wiecha> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2009Mar/att-0004/scenario.html
15:02:53 <klotz> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to contact Sam Ruby about HTML RNG Schema for adding XForms for HTML validation.
15:02:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-526 - Klotz to contact Sam Ruby about HTML RNG Schema for adding XForms for HTML validation. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2009-03-25].
15:04:04 <klotz> ACTION: Paul Butcher to find out Mark Birbeck's position on F2F in London for next week.
15:04:04 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Paul
15:05:11 <klotz> http://xformstest.org/2009-03-18.txt
15:05:32 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0007.html
15:05:43 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0012.html
15:33:48 <nick> zakim, mute me
15:33:48 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:58:51 <Steven> I'm OK with it
15:59:02 <John_Boyer> +1
16:11:33 <John_Boyer> copy action does its work "as if" by an insert action or a delete action, meaning that insert or delete action is the way in which the data mutation is achieved, so you don't just get more or fewer nodes, but you get the drag along of the insert or delete action processing
16:11:49 <klotz> how about
16:12:00 <John_Boyer> including RRRR deferred update flags being set, and then acted upon because the behaviors are outermost action handlers
16:12:02 <klotz> copy action does its work by dispatch an insert or delete action.
16:12:12 <klotz> s/dispatch/dispatching/
16:12:22 <klotz> s/dispatching/executing/
16:14:37 <klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to update select/copy case, xforms submission result, and UI setvalue controls to make it clear that setvalue, xforms-insert and xforms-delete are executed rather than "as if" they are executed.
16:14:37 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
16:14:37 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
16:18:40 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:18:41 <Zakim> -Steven
16:18:43 <Zakim> -ebruchez
16:18:43 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:18:45 <Zakim> -unl
16:18:45 <Zakim> -wiecha
16:18:45 <nick> bye 
16:18:46 <Zakim> -prb1
16:18:48 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:18:49 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
16:18:50 <Zakim> Attendees were wiecha, John_Boyer, +0207689aaaa, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez, prb1, unl, Leigh_Klotz, Steven
16:19:11 <klotz> rrsagent, make minutes
16:19:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-minutes.html klotz
16:19:16 <John_Boyer> thanks, Leigh
16:19:28 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
16:19:28 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-actions.rdf :
16:19:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to contact Sam Ruby about HTML RNG Schema for adding XForms for HTML validation. [1]
16:19:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc#T15-02-53
16:19:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Paul Butcher to find out Mark Birbeck's position on F2F in London for next week. [2]
16:19:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc#T15-04-04
16:19:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John Boyer to update select/copy case, xforms submission result, and UI setvalue controls to make it clear that setvalue, xforms-insert and xforms-delete are executed rather than "as if" they are executed. [3]
16:19:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc#T16-14-37
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