IRC log of forms on 2009-03-18

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14:43:43 [RRSAgent]

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc

14:43:49 [John_Boyer]

zakim, this will be forms

14:43:49 [Zakim]

ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

14:43:54 [John_Boyer]

rrsagent, make log public

14:44:03 [John_Boyer]

Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference

14:44:05 [John_Boyer]

Chair: John

14:44:09 [John_Boyer]

Regrets: Leigh

14:44:21 [John_Boyer]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0049.html

14:44:27 [John_Boyer]

John_Boyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0049.html

14:44:55 [Zakim]

HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started

14:45:02 [Zakim]

+[IBM]

14:45:08 [wiecha]

zakim, [IBM] is wiecha

14:45:08 [Zakim]

+wiecha; got it

14:45:38 [prb1]

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14:45:54 [nick]

zakim, code?

14:45:54 [Zakim]

the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick

14:45:59 [Zakim]

+John_Boyer

14:46:22 [Zakim]

+ +0207689aaaa

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+Nick_van_den_Bleeken

14:46:39 [John_Boyer]

Regrets-Leigh

14:46:45 [John_Boyer]

rrsagent, make minutes

14:46:45 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer

14:46:51 [Zakim]

+ +1.650.515.aabb

14:47:04 [ebruchez]

zakim, +1.650.515.aabb is ebruchez

14:47:04 [Zakim]

+ebruchez; got it

14:47:10 [unl]

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14:47:42 [John_Boyer]

zakim, who is here?

14:47:42 [Zakim]

On the phone I see wiecha, John_Boyer, +0207689aaaa, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez

14:47:44 [Zakim]

On IRC I see unl, ebruchez, prb1, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wiecha, Steven, nick, trackbot

14:47:56 [prb1]

Zakim, I am +0207689aaaa

14:47:56 [Zakim]

+prb1; got it

14:48:01 [Zakim]

+ +1.307.544.aacc

14:48:18 [unl]

zakim, +1.307.544.aacc is me

14:48:18 [Zakim]

+unl; got it

14:50:56 [klotz]

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14:51:24 [John_Boyer]

scribe: Leigh

14:51:30 [John_Boyer]

scribenick: klotz

14:51:41 [Zakim]

+Leigh_Klotz

14:51:53 [unl]

zakim, mute me

14:51:53 [Zakim]

unl should now be muted

14:52:06 [John_Boyer]

zakim, who is here?

14:52:06 [Zakim]

On the phone I see wiecha, John_Boyer, prb1, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez, unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz

14:52:08 [Zakim]

On IRC I see klotz, unl, ebruchez, prb1, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wiecha, Steven, nick, trackbot

14:52:18 [Steven]

zakim, dial steven-617

14:52:18 [Zakim]

ok, Steven; the call is being made

14:52:19 [Zakim]

+Steven

14:53:14 [John_Boyer]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0049.html

14:53:42 [wiecha]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2009Mar/att-0004/scenario.html

15:02:53 [klotz]

ACTION: Leigh Klotz to contact Sam Ruby about HTML RNG Schema for adding XForms for HTML validation.

15:02:54 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-526 - Klotz to contact Sam Ruby about HTML RNG Schema for adding XForms for HTML validation. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2009-03-25].

15:04:04 [klotz]

ACTION: Paul Butcher to find out Mark Birbeck's position on F2F in London for next week.

15:04:04 [trackbot]

Sorry, couldn't find user - Paul

15:05:11 [klotz]

http://xformstest.org/2009-03-18.txt

15:05:32 [John_Boyer]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0007.html

15:05:43 [John_Boyer]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0012.html

15:33:48 [nick]

zakim, mute me

15:33:48 [Zakim]

Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted

15:58:51 [Steven]

I'm OK with it

15:59:02 [John_Boyer]

+1

16:11:33 [John_Boyer]

copy action does its work "as if" by an insert action or a delete action, meaning that insert or delete action is the way in which the data mutation is achieved, so you don't just get more or fewer nodes, but you get the drag along of the insert or delete action processing

16:11:49 [klotz]

how about

16:12:00 [John_Boyer]

including RRRR deferred update flags being set, and then acted upon because the behaviors are outermost action handlers

16:12:02 [klotz]

copy action does its work by dispatch an insert or delete action.

16:12:12 [klotz]

s/dispatch/dispatching/

16:12:22 [klotz]

s/dispatching/executing/

16:14:37 [klotz]

ACTION: John Boyer to update select/copy case, xforms submission result, and UI setvalue controls to make it clear that setvalue, xforms-insert and xforms-delete are executed rather than "as if" they are executed.

16:14:37 [trackbot]

Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John

16:14:37 [trackbot]

Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)

16:18:40 [Zakim]

-Leigh_Klotz

16:18:41 [Zakim]

-Steven

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-ebruchez

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-John_Boyer

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-unl

16:18:45 [Zakim]

-wiecha

16:18:45 [nick]

bye

16:18:46 [Zakim]

-prb1

16:18:48 [Zakim]

-Nick_van_den_Bleeken

16:18:49 [Zakim]

HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended

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Attendees were wiecha, John_Boyer, +0207689aaaa, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez, prb1, unl, Leigh_Klotz, Steven

16:19:11 [klotz]

rrsagent, make minutes

16:19:11 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-minutes.html klotz

16:19:16 [John_Boyer]

thanks, Leigh

16:19:28 [John_Boyer]

rrsagent, bye

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-actions.rdf :

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Leigh Klotz to contact Sam Ruby about HTML RNG Schema for adding XForms for HTML validation. [1]

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc#T15-02-53

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Paul Butcher to find out Mark Birbeck's position on F2F in London for next week. [2]

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc#T15-04-04

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: John Boyer to update select/copy case, xforms submission result, and UI setvalue controls to make it clear that setvalue, xforms-insert and xforms-delete are executed rather than "as if" they are executed. [3]

16:19:28 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/18-forms-irc#T16-14-37

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