IRC log of RDB2RDF on 2008-12-05
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- 15:58:15 [Ashok]
- zakim, this is rdb2rdf
- 15:58:15 [Zakim]
- ok, Ashok; that matches INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM
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- chair: Ashok Malhotra
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- meeting: RDB2RDF Telcon
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- +regrets Michael_Hasenblas
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- +regrets Wolfgang_Halb
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- +regrets Li_Ma
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- +regrets Ivan_Mikhailov
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- +present Jenny_Green
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- +present Juan_Sequeda
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- +present Ahmed_Ezzat
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- +present Ashok_Malhotra
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- +present Andrew_Eisenberg
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- 16:07:55 [AxelPolleres]
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- Topic: Approve minutes for Nov 21 telcon
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- 16:08:31 [Ashok]
- No objections. Minutes approved
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- 16:11:08 [Ashok]
- +present Satya
- 16:11:41 [Ashok]
- +present Axel_Polleres
- 16:11:50 [AxelPolleres]
- I would not be able to support on either 12 or 19
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- s/support/attend/
- 16:13:14 [Ashok]
- Topic: Next telcon
- 16:13:31 [Ashok]
- We will have a telcon on Dec 12. Dec 19 telcon TBD
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- +present Themis
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- Topic: Action items.
- 16:15:31 [Ashok]
- First 2 action items done!
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- Topic: Literature Survey
- 16:17:21 [Ashok]
- Satya: I have incorporated Sebastian's comments
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- Juan: Shd we comment on the paper or the Wiki?
- 16:17:49 [Zakim]
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- 16:18:00 [Ashok]
- Satya: Either
- 16:19:11 [Ashok]
- Ashok: Set a deadline for comments, say early Jan\
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- Satya: I will send out email.
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- Juan: When does this group finish?
- 16:21:10 [Ashok]
- Ashok: mid-February
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- Ashok: Please read Proposed Recommendation
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- Topic: Using RIF
- 16:23:50 [Ashok]
- Axel: RIF syntax is not ideal
- 16:24:14 [Ashok]
- Axel: Open to alternate syntax
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- Axel: We can also add extensions
- 16:26:02 [Ashok]
- Ashok: Please look at proposed recommabout RIFendation and see what you want to add
- 16:28:01 [Ashok]
- http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ProposedRecommendation
- 16:29:21 [Ashok]
- ACTION: Axel to propose changes to recommendation to use RIF. By X'mas. Discuss on Jan 8 Telcon
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- 16:30:19 [Ashok]
- Topic: ENs work on using standard URIs
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- http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier
- 16:32:11 [Ashok]
- Themis discusses OKKAM work
- 16:33:04 [AxelPolleres]
- Is there a link for ENS?
- 16:35:55 [AxelPolleres]
- So, it is not yet there... I suggest then to reword "The Entity Name System (ENS) is a web-scale system for assigning and managing unique identifiers to entities in the WWW" to "The Entity Name System (ENS) is a planned web-scale system for assigning and managing unique identifiers to entities in the WWW that is worked upon in the OKKAM project."
- 16:37:06 [Ashok]
- Ashok: How do you find URIs in this database?
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- Themis: It's like a web search
- 16:38:34 [Zakim]
- -Andrew_Eisenberg
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- Ashok: Looks like it requies a human being?
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- Themis: No, not always
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- 16:40:17 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 16:44:04 [Ashok]
- Axel: How far is this ENS currently?
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- Axel: It's a good idea
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- Themis: We have a prototype with all the geoloactions, people, etc.
- 16:46:03 [Ashok]
- We are adding protien identifiers.
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- Expect a public prototype early next year
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- Ahmed: Asks about primary key
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- Themis: Not a close relation with primary key
- 16:48:34 [Ashok]
- Themis: Need to formulate a query with relevant information
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- Juan: If you get more than 1 result what do yiu do?
- 16:50:18 [Ashok]
- Themis: Needs human intervention. We have some ideas for resolving such conflicts
- 16:52:34 [AxelPolleres]
- Except best practices, what is it what you aim at standardising here at this point? I believe in ENS being a useful tool here, but how does it fit in a standardised RDB2RDF pipeline, i.e. what is the action/potential for W3C in general and RDB2RDF in particular at this point?
- 16:53:18 [Ashok]
- Ashok: Good question, Axel!
- 16:53:39 [Ashok]
- I see it as a facility that can be used as part of the mapping process.
- 16:53:53 [Ashok]
- I do not see it as part of the standard
- 16:54:02 [AxelPolleres]
- Does it mean that RDB2RDF can generate any RDF and ENS couls be used to "repair" the generated RDF or should ENS be directly in the pipeline?
- 16:54:57 [Ashok]
- I need to think about that
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- Discussion about how ENs would be used in the mapping
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- Jenny: Another usecase
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- Ashok: I'm think of this as a helper function
- 17:02:47 [AxelPolleres]
- a helper function which could be ENS, or any other service, could be invoked in the mapping process... I think that we would only need to provide a "hook" for that.
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- Attendees were +0341973aaaa, +1.512.471.aabb, +0341973aacc, Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, +049341973aadd, +49.341.973.aaee, +1.512.471.aaff, AxelPolleres, +039046188aagg,
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- rrsagent, make logs public
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- rrsagent, create minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/05-RDB2RDF-minutes.html Ashok
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