IRC log of forms on 2008-10-08

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14:35:38 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-irc
14:35:46 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make log public
14:39:40 [John_Boyer]
John_Boyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Oct/0010.html
14:40:14 [John_Boyer]
Chair: John
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Scribe: Leigh
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Oct/0010.html
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Regrets: Erik (possible), Nick
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Meeting: Weekly Forms Working Group Teleconference
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HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started
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+ +1.919.254.aaaa
14:45:07 [wellsk]
zakim, aaaa is wellsk
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+wellsk; got it
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+[IBM]
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-wellsk
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+wellsk
14:45:41 [Charlie]
zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
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+Charlie; got it
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+John_Boyer
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+ +49.307.5.aabb
14:47:51 [unl]
zakim, 49.307.5.aabb is me
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sorry, unl, I do not recognize a party named '49.307.5.aabb'
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Roger has joined #forms
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zakim, +49.307.5.aabb is me
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+unl; got it
14:48:31 [unl]
zakim, mute me
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unl should now be muted
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+Leigh_Klotz
14:50:52 [John_Boyer]
scribenick: Leigh_Klotz
14:51:10 [John_Boyer]
scribenick: klotz
14:51:20 [Zakim]
+ +03491211aacc
14:51:25 [Roger]
zakim, aacc is Roger
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+Roger; got it
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-Roger
14:52:32 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
14:52:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see wellsk, Charlie, John_Boyer, unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz
14:52:35 [Zakim]
On IRC I see klotz, Roger, unl, wellsk, Charlie, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven, trackbot
14:52:57 [Zakim]
+Roger
14:53:17 [klotz]
http://xformstest.org/2008-10-08.txt
14:54:07 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Oct/0010.html
14:57:46 [Steven]
zakim, edial steven-617
14:57:46 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'edial steven-617', Steven
14:57:52 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
14:57:53 [Zakim]
ok, Steven; the call is being made
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+Steven
14:58:40 [klotz]
ACTION: John Boyer to publish implementation reports received from Keith Wells in 2008 space.
14:58:40 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
14:58:40 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
14:58:44 [klotz]
ACTION: John Boyer to publish implementation report from received from Kenneth Sklander in 2008 space.
14:58:44 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
14:58:44 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
14:58:59 [wellsk]
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/824
15:01:47 [wellsk]
this has all versions: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/824
15:05:16 [Steven]
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xforms/
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says:
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November 29th, 2007:
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XForms 1.1 is a Recommendation.
15:05:31 [Steven]
Should be fixed
15:06:50 [Steven]
also doesn't mention 0.8.6
15:08:21 [klotz]
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/824
15:14:54 [unl]
not yet, sorry
15:16:24 [unl]
zakim, unmute me
15:16:24 [Zakim]
unl should no longer be muted
15:18:16 [unl]
zakim, mute me
15:18:16 [Zakim]
unl should now be muted
15:18:45 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Oct/0003.html
15:19:01 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0008.html
15:21:45 [Steven]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/#d2008-10-07
15:23:21 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#structure-model
15:28:16 [wellsk]
remove this "Attributes from XML Events are allowed on this element to
15:28:56 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#structure-attrs-common
15:30:12 [klotz]
ACTION: John Boyer to get rid of the language in the model element about ev:* attributes as the model element says common and events and should just say common, and add a note in common 3.2.1 that the common attributes allow ev:*, and that XForms doesn't define XML Events behavior, so the places where ev:* is explicitly listed in the spec are for reading convenience only.
15:30:12 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:30:12 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:32:45 [Steven]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xml-events2
15:33:24 [Steven]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xml-events-20080625/#event-function
15:35:09 [klotz]
ACTION: John Boyer to comment to XML Events 2 that bubbleable, cancelable, current phase and event target are valuable metadata for event context.
15:35:09 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:35:09 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:37:29 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features
15:39:19 [Zakim]
-unl
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+unl
15:40:16 [unl]
zakim, mute me
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unl should now be muted
15:52:07 [klotz]
Ranpur?
15:52:16 [Steven]
Yes
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–
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-Leigh_Klotz
16:07:32 [Roger]
bye
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-Charlie
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-Steven
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-unl
16:07:36 [Charlie]
Charlie has left #forms
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-wellsk
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-John_Boyer
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-Roger
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HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
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Attendees were +1.919.254.aaaa, wellsk, Charlie, John_Boyer, unl, Leigh_Klotz, +03491211aacc, Roger, Steven
16:07:50 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:07:54 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, bye
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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: John Boyer to publish implementation reports received from Keith Wells in 2008 space. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-irc#T14-58-40
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ACTION: John Boyer to publish implementation report from received from Kenneth Sklander in 2008 space. [2]
16:07:54 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-irc#T14-58-44
16:07:54 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: John Boyer to get rid of the language in the model element about ev:* attributes as the model element says common and events and should just say common, and add a note in common 3.2.1 that the common attributes allow ev:*, and that XForms doesn't define XML Events behavior, so the places where ev:* is explicitly listed in the spec are for reading convenience only. [3]
16:07:54 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-irc#T15-30-12
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ACTION: John Boyer to comment to XML Events 2 that bubbleable, cancelable, current phase and event target are valuable metadata for event context. [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-forms-irc#T15-35-09