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13:47:19 alessio, have i pointed you to http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/RoleAttribute - need to synch with your work on @role for object
13:47:22 zakim, this is xhtml
13:47:22 ok, Steven; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:45AM
13:47:27 zakim, who is here?
13:47:27 On the phone I see ShaneM
13:47:28 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alessio, ShaneM, Tina, oedipus, Steven
13:47:33 zakim, dial steven-617
13:47:33 ok, Steven; the call is being made
13:47:34 +Steven
13:47:58 rrsagent, make log public
13:48:00 +Gregory_Rosmaita
13:48:09 + +04670855aaaa
13:48:10 Meeting: Weekly XHTML2 WG Teleconference
13:48:21 Chair: Steven
13:48:28 zakim, aaaa is Tina
13:48:28 +Tina; got it
13:48:35 +??P9
13:48:42 zakim, ??P9 is Alessio
13:48:42 +Alessio; got it
13:49:11 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0041
13:49:16 Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0041
13:49:25 Regrets: Roland, Mark
13:50:35 zakim, choose a victim
13:50:35 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Tina
13:51:03 scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita
13:51:13 scribeNick: oedipus
13:51:49 rrsagent, make minutes
13:51:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/20-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus
13:52:17 TOPIC: Outstanding Reviews
13:52:35 SP: MarkB just got back from holiday, so will ping him about XSD review later this week
13:52:41 SP: important issue today is RDFa
13:53:01 SP: spec has been in CR - lots of implementations
13:53:14 SP: 4 implementations with everything
13:53:33 SP: only need 2 for every feature, we have 4; well done, shane
13:53:47 SP: have to decide to send RDFa on to PR status
13:54:46 SP: handled all CR comments; have discussion with Shane today on a single issue, hopefully after that discussion can move to PR
13:54:55 TOPIC: RDFa Transitioning to PR
13:55:20 SM: RDFa defines a module - that module defines collection of attributes
13:55:20 zakim, mute alessio
13:55:20 Alessio should now be muted
13:55:30 zakim, who is noisy?
13:55:39 SM: RDFa also provides an instance of this against XHTML M12n
13:55:40 Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ShaneM (73%), Tina (40%)
13:55:51 zakim, mute tina
13:55:51 Tina should now be muted
13:55:57 zakim, unmute alessio
13:55:57 Alessio should no longer be muted
13:56:08 SM: problem: way we add attributes is add them to existing attribute collection, the common attribute collection
13:56:20 SM: handful of elements that don't use the common attribute collection
13:56:34 SM: is it ok to add attributes by hand in places where common isn't used
13:56:47 SM: should we be adding common to elements, or just metadata attributes
13:57:02 SP: had problem in past with @id - did we fix by putting "core" on elements
13:57:10 SM: no - put @id on all elements
13:57:40 SP: XHTML1.1+RDFa in short term, put on elements; when regenerate XHTML 1.1, we fix the issue
13:57:57 SM: not easy to fix - module defined wrong and needs to be fixed
13:58:08 SM: uses modules to fix so have to add to driver
13:58:24 SM: driver override of what is in module - don't use attribute list from module
13:58:32 SP: for long term, add it all
13:58:50 SM: what does it mean to add "common" to script - what would it mean on script module/element
13:59:39 SP: good question -- don't think does any harm; same argument with XHTML Basic - didn't want attributes that didn't match things that didn't happen - didn't want markup to catch events that won't get fired;
14:00:08 SP: if events don't happen, they don't happen - makes no difference if attributes there; because one CAN put attributes on SCRIPT, doesn't mean it is non-sense
14:00:23 SM: putting onBlur on SCRIPT doesn't mean anything
14:00:52 SP: right, so don't do it; in principle is allowed, but in princiiple could make script viewable and clickable; non-viewable in principle is has display none
14:01:01 SM: can't currently override with style
14:01:18 SP: in stylesheet could script { display:block; }
14:01:42 SM: in regards RDFa SP thinks fine to put meta attributes on everything: not on SYTLE, SCRIPT and PARAM
14:01:56 s/and PARAM/or PARAM
14:02:04 SM: think might need HREF on all of them
14:02:15 SP: resource, but not href everywhere
14:02:34 SM: changed and then ben had problems with it because resolved to put it everywhere in july 2007
14:02:40 SP: ben most against it
14:02:46 SM: creative commons said didn't care
14:02:55 SM: href everywhere in CR draft
14:03:20 SM: will put meta information attributes on SCRIPT, STYLE and PARAM and will ship
14:03:24 SM: any other comments?
14:03:29 GJR: yeah, we're done!
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