IRC log of forms on 2008-07-23

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rrsagent, make log public
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Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0038.html
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Regrets: Steven, John
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HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started
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+??P13
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+[IBM]
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-[IBM]
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+[IBM]
14:41:47 [Charlie]
zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
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+Charlie; got it
14:42:17 [Charlie]
i'd like to talk a bit more about the packaging of modules into single spec
14:42:27 [Charlie]
could we return a bit to this point in today's agenda?
14:42:36 [Zakim]
-??P13
14:43:11 [nick]
zakim, code?
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the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick
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+Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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-Charlie
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+Charlie
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+wellsk
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+ +1.650.515.aaaa
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zakim, +1.650.515.aaaa is ebruchez
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+ebruchez; got it
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+??P1
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nick has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0038.html
14:47:46 [Roger]
zakim, p1 is Roger
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sorry, Roger, I do not recognize a party named 'p1'
14:48:15 [Roger]
zakim, ??P1 is Roger
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+Roger; got it
14:48:34 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see Charlie, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, wellsk, ebruchez, Roger
14:48:36 [Zakim]
On IRC I see klotz, ebruchez, nick, wellsk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Roger, Charlie, shepazu, trackbot
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+Leigh_Klotz
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0038.html
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Chair: Nick
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Scribe: Leigh Klotz
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Scribenick: klotz
14:51:03 [Roger]
zakim, mute me
14:51:03 [Zakim]
Roger should now be muted
14:52:56 [nick]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Jul/0022.html
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0073.html
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<xf:bind nodeset="//*[@xsi:nil]" relevant="count(text())>0"/>
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<xf:bind nodeset="//@xsi:nil" relevant="count(text())>0"/>
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http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-1/#xsi_nil
15:12:26 [nick]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0001.html
15:14:07 [klotz]
ACTION: Leigh Klotz to respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0073.html that the proposed solution doesn't answer the use cases we discussed and the workaround works for the author so we put full xsi:nil xs:nillable support on the future features list.
15:14:07 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-481 - Klotz to respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0073.html that the proposed solution doesn't answer the use cases we discussed and the workaround works for the author so we put full xsi:nil xs:nillable support on the future features list. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-07-30].
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0001.html
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Module bundling into fewer specs
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Draft Instance Data Module
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/att-0001/index-all.html
15:27:23 [nick]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0028.html
15:27:32 [klotz]
RESOLVED: We refactor 1.2 instance data modult into two: a data island and the setvalue/insert/delete.
15:27:36 [klotz]
ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to refactor http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/att-0001/index-all.html a data island and the setvalue/insert/delete.
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Sorry, couldn't find user - Charlie
15:27:37 [nick]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/actions/index-all.html
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http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/model/bind/index-all.html
15:32:57 [nick]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0004.html
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http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_1.2_Modularization
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http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#idref-resolve
15:43:17 [klotz]
ACTION: Leigh Klotz to seek expert help on multiple module import conflict issue in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0004.html
15:43:18 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-482 - Klotz to seek expert help on multiple module import conflict issue in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0004.html [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-07-30].
15:46:59 [nick]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-header
15:47:26 [Zakim]
-Roger
15:48:05 [wellsk]
this is pertinent code in test 11.8.b
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<xforms:model >
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<xforms:instance>
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<data>
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<value>one</value>
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<value>two</value>
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<value>three</value>
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</data>
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</xforms:instance>
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<xforms:submission id="sub1" method="post" action="http://xformstest.org/cgi-bin/echo.sh">
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<xforms:header nodeset="/data/value">
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<xforms:name>myHeader</xforms:name>
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<xforms:value>myValue</xforms:value>
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</xforms:header>
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</xforms:submission>
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</xforms:model>
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http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-header
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http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_1.2_Modularization
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-Leigh_Klotz
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-Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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-wellsk
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-Charlie
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-ebruchez
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HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
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Attendees were Charlie, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, wellsk, ebruchez, Roger, Leigh_Klotz
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actions?
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zakim, bye
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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/23-forms-minutes.html nick
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/23-forms-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Leigh Klotz to respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0073.html that the proposed solution doesn't answer the use cases we discussed and the workaround works for the author so we put full xsi:nil xs:nillable support on the future features list. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/23-forms-irc#T15-14-07
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ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to refactor http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/att-0001/index-all.html a data island and the setvalue/insert/delete. [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/23-forms-irc#T15-27-36
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ACTION: Leigh Klotz to seek expert help on multiple module import conflict issue in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0004.html [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/23-forms-irc#T15-43-17