IRC log of forms on 2008-05-14
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-forms-irc
- 14:43:25 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 14:44:17 [Zakim]
- +John_Boyer
- 14:44:48 [Steven]
- Hi there
- 14:44:48 [unl]
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- 14:44:52 [John_Boyer]
- Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
- 14:45:11 [Steven]
- There is a national ADSL breakdown, so I am using my mobile for calls AND internet
- 14:45:19 [Steven]
- so my sound quality will be terrible
- 14:45:51 [Steven]
- will be there in just a moment
- 14:46:01 [Roger]
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- +Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse
- 14:46:19 [Roger]
- zakim, code?
- 14:46:19 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger
- 14:46:22 [Zakim]
- + +1.919.254.aaaa
- 14:46:25 [unl]
- zakim, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse is me
- 14:46:25 [Zakim]
- +unl; got it
- 14:46:32 [wellsk]
- zakim, aaaa is wellsk
- 14:46:32 [Zakim]
- +wellsk; got it
- 14:46:32 [unl]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:46:33 [Zakim]
- unl should now be muted
- 14:46:42 [John_Boyer]
- Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
- 14:46:52 [John_Boyer]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0017.html
- 14:47:04 [nick]
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- Chair: John
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- +Leigh_Klotz
- 14:47:19 [nick]
- zakim, codee?
- 14:47:20 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, nick.
- 14:47:24 [nick]
- zakim, code?
- 14:47:24 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick
- 14:47:56 [John_Boyer]
- Scribe: Leigh
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- scribenick: klotz
- 14:48:04 [Zakim]
- +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
- 14:48:22 [ebruchez]
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- 14:48:24 [John_Boyer]
- Regrets: MarkB, Rogelio
- 14:49:10 [Zakim]
- + +03491211aabb
- 14:49:18 [Roger]
- zakim, aabb is Roger
- 14:49:18 [Zakim]
- +Roger; got it
- 14:49:23 [wellsk]
- zakim, who is here?
- 14:49:23 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Charlie, John_Boyer, unl, wellsk, Leigh_Klotz, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Roger
- 14:49:25 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see ebruchez, nick, klotz, Roger, unl, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Charlie, wellsk, Steven, trackbot-ng, shepazu
- 14:49:27 [Zakim]
- +??P7
- 14:49:32 [ebruchez]
- zakim,??P7 is ebruchez
- 14:49:32 [Zakim]
- +ebruchez; got it
- 14:49:52 [Roger]
- John: was Rafael not me who sent the regrets
- 14:50:26 [Roger]
- no problem
- 14:50:36 [John_Boyer]
- Regrets-Rogelio
- 14:50:46 [John_Boyer]
- Regrets+Rafael
- 14:50:53 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 14:50:53 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
- 14:51:57 [Steven]
- zakim, dial steven-mobile
- 14:51:57 [Zakim]
- ok, Steven; the call is being made
- 14:51:59 [Zakim]
- +Steven
- 14:52:06 [klotz]
- klotz has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/
- 14:52:16 [klotz]
- klotz has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0017.html
- 14:52:27 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, who is here?
- 14:52:27 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Charlie, John_Boyer, unl, wellsk, Leigh_Klotz, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Roger, ebruchez, Steven
- 14:52:29 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see ebruchez, nick, klotz, Roger, unl, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Charlie, wellsk, Steven, trackbot-ng, shepazu
- 14:53:09 [Roger_]
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- 14:55:30 [John_Boyer]
- http://code.google.com/p/ubiquity-xforms/
- 14:56:58 [Charlie]
- * typing is loud
- 14:57:11 [klotz]
- wasn't me
- 14:57:19 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, who is noisy?
- 14:57:30 [Zakim]
- John_Boyer, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Charlie (18%), John_Boyer (12%)
- 14:57:39 [Charlie]
- * not me!
- 14:57:58 [Steven]
- might have been my keyboard; sorry if it was
- 14:58:34 [nick]
- there is an info page
- 14:58:42 [unl]
- http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FtF_2008_06
- 14:58:46 [Roger]
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- 14:58:56 [unl]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/formsftf200806/
- 14:59:09 [Charlie]
- * you're a very enthusiastic typer, steven
- 14:59:13 [Steven]
- if anybody feels inclined to insert relevant sentences into the irc channel, he would be obliged
- 14:59:14 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, who is noisy?
- 14:59:25 [klotz]
- maybe muting steven on zakim will help since perhaps he is half-duplex
- 14:59:25 [Roger]
- sounds like a horse race
- 14:59:26 [Zakim]
- John_Boyer, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Charlie (13%), unl (58%), John_Boyer (50%), Steven (8%)
- 14:59:37 [Steven]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:59:37 [Zakim]
- Steven should now be muted
- 14:59:44 [unl]
- i'm muted
- 14:59:56 [Steven]
- is that better?
- 14:59:57 [unl]
- zakim, mute me again
- 14:59:57 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'mute me again', unl
- 15:00:04 [unl]
- zakim, mute me
- 15:00:04 [Zakim]
- unl should now be muted
- 15:00:09 [unl]
- no
- 15:00:16 [nick]
- zakim, mute me
- 15:00:16 [Zakim]
- Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
- 15:00:18 [klotz]
- the correlation is weak, steven, so it will take another minute to tell
- 15:01:55 [Steven]
- Biweekly or ?
- 15:02:02 [klotz]
- biweekly or weekly
- 15:02:13 [Steven]
- weekly would clash with HCG
- 15:02:20 [John_Boyer]
- Either biweekly or every week, the latter of which would mean a different time than 10am eastern due to conflict with HCG time
- 15:04:47 [Steven]
- I *promise* I will do some actions this week
- 15:05:01 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/klotz/2008/05/ubiquity/test.xhtml
- 15:06:06 [nick]
- ack, me
- 15:06:14 [nick]
- ack me
- 15:06:27 [Steven]
- Ubiquity test works in IE, not in Opera
- 15:07:43 [John_Boyer]
- 28<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0014.html> rnstarting target is IE+Firefox for June, Safari in August
- 15:07:53 [John_Boyer]
- Would like opera, but need some open source help to get there
- 15:07:57 [klotz]
- Ask howcome to fix it then.
- 15:08:05 [Steven]
- ok
- 15:08:24 [John_Boyer]
- good point, they should be IE compatible, right?
- 15:13:44 [wellsk]
- yes
- 15:13:48 [nick]
- yes
- 15:15:40 [John_Boyer]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html
- 15:16:30 [nick]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0019.html
- 15:22:17 [nick]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.3
- 15:24:28 [nick]
- and accept-charset ?
- 15:25:38 [nick]
- fine
- 15:27:16 [klotz]
- ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to read http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.3 and make proposal for accept providing default to xf:upload/@mediatype and make proposal for accept-charset for http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html
- 15:27:17 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-460 - Van den Bleeken to read http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.3 and make proposal for accept providing default to xf:upload/@mediatype and make proposal for accept-charset for http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-05-21].
- 15:31:37 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/klotz/2008/05/submit.html has no submit
- 15:32:15 [nick]
- http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Allow_submission_elements_without_model_element
- 15:45:49 [klotz]
- http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/datatypes
- 15:47:17 [wellsk]
- it works with ff
- 15:49:05 [John_Boyer]
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html
- 15:54:36 [nick]
- or <model> <model id="S1" src=".../serviceDefinition1.xfmodel"/> <model id="S2" src=".../serviceDefinition2.xfmodel"/> </model>
- 15:55:31 [klotz]
- protected public private static inner model
- 16:01:00 [unl_]
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- 16:02:07 [nick]
- I meant <form> <model> <model id="S1" src=".../serviceDefinition1.xfmodel"/> <model id="S2" src=".../serviceDefinition2.xfmodel"/> </model> </form>
- 16:04:13 [unl_]
- ack me
- 16:05:10 [nick]
- I see a lot of extra work, but I could be wrong ...
- 16:06:20 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, ack unl
- 16:06:20 [Zakim]
- I see no one on the speaker queue
- 16:07:47 [John_Boyer]
- Instead of nested models, solve cross-model communication, possibly by defining the interface in the model
- 16:10:04 [Zakim]
- -Steven
- 16:14:05 [nick]
- +1
- 16:15:40 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: Defer model/@src to XForms 2.0 and we solve the cross-model interface problem there too.
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- -wellsk
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- -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
- 16:16:56 [ebruchez]
- be
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- Roger has left #forms
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- -unl
- 16:16:58 [ebruchez]
- bye
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- -Charlie
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- wellsk has left #forms
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- -Leigh_Klotz
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- -John_Boyer
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- -Roger
- 16:17:17 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:17:17 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see ebruchez
- 16:17:18 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see John_Boyer, nick, klotz, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, trackbot-ng, shepazu
- 16:17:29 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, disconnect ebruchez
- 16:17:29 [Zakim]
- ebruchez is being disconnected
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- HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
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- Attendees were Charlie, John_Boyer, +1.919.254.aaaa, unl, wellsk, Leigh_Klotz, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, +03491211aabb, Roger, ebruchez, Steven
- 16:17:40 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 16:17:40 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
- 16:17:46 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, bye
- 16:17:46 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-forms-actions.rdf :
- 16:17:46 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to read http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.3 and make proposal for accept providing default to xf:upload/@mediatype and make proposal for accept-charset for http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html [1]
- 16:17:46 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-forms-irc#T15-27-16