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18:00:54 <Jan> Zakim, this will be UAWG
18:00:54 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM scheduled to start now
18:01:07 <Jan> Meeting: WAI UA
18:01:33 <Jan> Scribe: Jan
18:01:43 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has now started
18:01:50 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
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18:02:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:03:26 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
18:03:26 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
18:03:36 <Jan> Chair: Jim Allan
18:04:25 <Jan> Regrets: Peter Parente
18:04:36 <Jan> Regrets: Cathy Laws
18:12:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
18:13:23 <Jan> zakim, [Microsoft] is really KFord
18:13:23 <Zakim> +KFord; got it
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18:16:29 <Jan> All: Some discussion of AIA and some connections.
18:17:40 <Jan> Last week's Action Items:
18:17:41 <Jan> -ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:17:43 <Jan> -ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:17:44 <Jan> -ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:17:46 <Jan> -ACTION: JR to Look into "denial of Service" issue re IBM
18:17:48 <Jan> -ACTION: JR to Work on 2.3 proposal to make provision 2 more general - not just visual
18:17:49 <Jan> -ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn
18:17:51 <Jan> -ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA.
18:17:52 <Jan> -ACTION: JR to Check when publishing moratoria are [8]
18:18:18 <Jan> GR: Report on HTML5 progress to being an official working draft
18:18:54 <Jan> Action GR: To review first public working draft of HTML5 - user agent conformance section
18:19:37 <Jan> GR: And will bring other items back to the list
18:20:43 <Jan> GR: oh and had an action item to look at Editor's draft change tracking
18:21:55 <Jan> GR: The new DIFF script in W3C uses <del> and <ins>
18:22:12 <AllanJ> link to DIFF http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2007/10/25/online_htmldiff_service
18:23:10 <AllanJ> above was information, actual service is http://www.w3.org/2007/10/htmldiff 
18:23:56 <Jan> GR: But also need to negotiate other stuff like age of an issue, editorial comment etc
18:27:12 <Jan> KF: Why can't we use an invisible one pixel graphic with alt text with comment text
18:27:42 <Jan> GR: Tried this with pseudo elements but not exposed to AT
18:28:13 <Jan> GR: Wanted to use overflow technique
18:31:36 <Jan> Topic: Action item review
18:31:55 <Jan> ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:32:01 <Jan> ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:32:07 <Jan> ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:32:27 <Jan> JR: Look into "denial of Service" issue re IBM: Known issue - prob on IBM side
18:32:59 <Jan> ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn
18:33:06 <Jan> me/ yes
18:33:09 <oedipus> WCAG2 Technique C7 (overflow to hide text in plain sight): http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/C7.html
18:33:32 <Jan> ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA
18:33:55 <Jan> JR: Reported moratoria dates to the list
18:34:09 <Jan> JR to Work on 2.3 proposal to make provision 2 more general - not just visual...
18:34:33 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html
18:34:53 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0078.html
18:35:45 <oedipus> GJR +1 to "conditional content" - not equivalents - not knowable by UA
18:36:27 <oedipus> GJR's plus one was to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html
18:38:38 <KFord> revised item here seems good for editor draft to me.
18:39:34 <Jan> All: Agreed to use http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html in next draft
18:39:54 <Jan> All: Agree including new glossary wordings
18:40:05 <Jan> Action JR: Update Editor's Draft
18:40:06 <oedipus> FYI: 2 HTML5 wiki pages on a11y terminology and consensus: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AccessibilityConsensus and http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/CommonVocabularyAndDefinitions
18:41:51 <Zakim> -KFord
18:41:59 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
18:45:48 <Zakim> -Jan
18:45:50 <Zakim> -AllanJ
18:45:51 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has ended
18:45:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, AllanJ, Jan, KFord
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18:46:10 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
18:46:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html Jan
18:46:19 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public 
18:46:24 <Jan> Zakim, bye 
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18:46:29 <Jan> RRSAgent, bye 
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-actions.rdf :
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: GR to To review first public working draft of HTML5 - user agent conformance section [1]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-18-54
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [2]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-31-55
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [3]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-32-01
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [4]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-32-07
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn [5]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-32-59
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA [6]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-33-32
18:46:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to Update Editor's Draft [7]
18:46:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-40-05