IRC log of hcls on 2007-10-18
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- 15:02:33 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #hcls
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-hcls-irc
- 15:02:40 [eneumann]
- zakim, this is hcls
- 15:02:50 [eneumann]
- .invite zakim
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- Zakim has joined #hcls
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- zakim, this is hcls
- 15:03:05 [Zakim]
- ok, eneumann; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
- 15:03:20 [eneumann]
- rrsagent, set logs world-visible
- 15:03:48 [ericP]
- Zakim, please dial ericP-office
- 15:03:48 [Zakim]
- ok, ericP; the call is being made
- 15:03:54 [Zakim]
- +EricP
- 15:03:58 [ericP]
- Zakim, who is here?
- 15:04:06 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.301.975.aaaa, ??P5, EricP
- 15:04:14 [Zakim]
- +Eric_Neumann
- 15:04:18 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, matthiassamwald, eneumann, chimezie, ericP
- 15:04:39 [matthiassamwald]
- i am using skype
- 15:04:59 [ericP]
- Zakim, +1.301.975.aaaa is tnbhat
- 15:05:00 [Zakim]
- +tnbhat; got it
- 15:05:17 [chimezie]
- Zakim, passcode?
- 15:05:17 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 4257 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie
- 15:05:26 [ericP]
- Zakim, ??P5 is matthiassamwald
- 15:05:26 [Zakim]
- +matthiassamwald; got it
- 15:05:47 [Zakim]
- +Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:06:40 [eneumann]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:06:40 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:06:49 [eneumann]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:06:52 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:07:14 [eneumann]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:07:14 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:07:28 [eneumann]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:07:30 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:07:41 [chimezie]
- oh well
- 15:09:33 [jar286]
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- 15:10:48 [Zakim]
- +Jonathan_Rees
- 15:10:53 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: we are still analyzing the results of the questionaire.
- 15:11:59 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: however, some kex people responsible for that are not on the call at the moment.
- 15:12:41 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: the notes should go to the public domain after the face to face.
- 15:12:50 [jar286]
- could someone please send a URI to the draft agenda to the chat?
- 15:13:52 [matthiassamwald]
- chimezie: our group is working on notes at the moment (drug safety etc.)
- 15:14:02 [matthiassamwald]
- correction -- eric said that.
- 15:14:15 [chimezie]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Oct/0092.html Agenda
- 15:14:31 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: the notes should reflect what has been done on the wiki pages.
- 15:15:09 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: biordf should probably have some notes on the URI discussion.
- 15:15:43 [matthiassamwald]
- jonathan: i am feeling good about the document right now. i have a 3 page outline.
- 15:15:54 [matthiassamwald]
- jonathan: i am iterating on that with a number of people.
- 15:16:06 [matthiassamwald]
- jonathan: this topic is not specific to biordf.
- 15:16:27 [matthiassamwald]
- jonathan: before the end of the year we should get some kind of editors draft.
- 15:16:47 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: i am optimistic that we could make a formal note out of this.
- 15:17:49 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: the editors draft can be discussed at the face to face.
- 15:18:03 [matthiassamwald]
- jonathan: the more significant the endorsement, the more impact it will have.
- 15:19:43 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: there are also many other topics in biordf.
- 15:20:16 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: i recommend that we write a document of our experiences, possibly as a note.
- 15:21:45 [eneumann]
- http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/F2F/2007/11/Agenda
- 15:23:23 [jar286]
- looks like there's 1 hour scheduled for the uri note
- 15:23:38 [Zakim]
- +Alan_Ruttenberg
- 15:23:46 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: i am still discussing with tony and eric about the agenda of the face to face.
- 15:25:11 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: the 'next steps' agenda item is important.
- 15:25:22 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: i would prefer having them early on friday.
- 15:26:03 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: can the COI discussion be pushed to friday?
- 15:27:03 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: two representatives from pharmaceutical companies can only come on one of the days.
- 15:28:32 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: can we break up the COI discussion two both days?
- 15:28:51 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: we need vipul to make such decisions.
- 15:33:40 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: we looked at numbers of the survey. susie and alan also looked at them.
- 15:34:03 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: i proposed three task forces (discussed with ivan).
- 15:34:21 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: life sciences, health care, translational medicine.
- 15:34:56 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: we discussed about patent policy.
- 15:35:23 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: alan suggested forming a visualisation working group.
- 15:35:49 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: i also want to look at the comments that were submitted.
- 15:36:25 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: how do we organize things so that there is a clear direction.
- 15:36:36 [jar286]
- i'm going to bow out now - tra
- 15:36:41 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: eric suggested that each group should focus on getting data into the database.
- 15:36:47 [Zakim]
- -Jonathan_Rees
- 15:36:55 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: however, this leaves out visualisation and decision support.
- 15:37:11 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: i support the idea of building an interest group instead of a working group.
- 15:37:35 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: because of patent barriers etc.
- 15:38:11 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: can more targeted, narrower working groups 'spin of' the main working groups?
- 15:40:09 [chimezie]
- Cleveland Clinic is concerned about a lack of a mandate and considers rec track work very important for consensus
- 15:40:22 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: e.g. about encoding CDISC in RDF.
- 15:40:46 [chimezie]
- we consider the problem more of an issue of how you structure the charter than a lack of participation of major players
- 15:42:47 [ericP]
- q+ to answer chime
- 15:43:49 [eneumann]
- ack ericp
- 15:43:49 [Zakim]
- ericP, you wanted to answer chime
- 15:43:52 [Zakim]
- +Susie_Stephens
- 15:44:38 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: joining a working group is more complicated for companies.
- 15:47:21 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: i would start an ontology working group as early as possible. however, we do not have very much participation from experienced people.
- 15:47:48 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: consensus/community building around vocabularies/ontologies is important.
- 15:49:52 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: to get consensus, we would need to get some experience through talking with people from the industry.
- 15:52:21 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: i would like to see more connections to other groups (like CDISC)
- 15:53:08 [matthiassamwald]
- alan: what of the survey data will be released to the public?
- 15:53:22 [matthiassamwald]
- eric: this is up to you and susie.
- 15:55:01 [matthiassamwald]
- ericp: the comments should not be made public.
- 15:57:08 [matthiassamwald]
- susie: maybe we could write a tutorial and turn that into a note.
- 15:57:40 [matthiassamwald]
- susie: the proposal for the tutorial needs to be submitted by the end of november
- 16:01:41 [Zakim]
- -Chimezie_Ogbuji
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- -tnbhat
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- -Eric_Neumann
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- -Susie_Stephens
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- -Alan_Ruttenberg
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- -EricP
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- -matthiassamwald
- 16:05:10 [Zakim]
- SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were EricP, Eric_Neumann, tnbhat, matthiassamwald, Chimezie_Ogbuji, Jonathan_Rees, Alan_Ruttenberg, Susie_Stephens
- 16:05:18 [eneumann]
- zakim, draft minutes
- 16:05:19 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'draft minutes', eneumann
- 16:05:27 [eneumann]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 16:05:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-hcls-minutes.html eneumann
- 16:05:35 [eneumann]
- bye rrsagent
- 16:05:44 [eneumann]
- rrsagent, bye
- 16:05:44 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items