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14:55:10 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
14:55:26 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:56:27 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
14:56:30 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0139.html
14:56:39 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0139.html
14:58:02 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:58:09 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
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14:59:24 <kenneth> zakim, what is the code?
14:59:26 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kenneth
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15:00:50 <Zakim> +kenneth
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15:01:39 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:01:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see John_Boyer, kenneth
15:01:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see John_Boyer, markseaborne, unl, lars, jturner, RRSAgent, Zakim, kenneth
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15:02:35 <kenneth> 	the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kenneth
15:02:36 <John_Boyer> zakim, code?
15:02:40 <ebruchez> all, I'll be a few minute late as I am in a call
15:02:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), John_Boyer
15:02:49 <Nick> Nick has joined #Forms
15:03:31 <ebruchez> so don't wait for me to start
15:03:31 <Zakim> +??P25
15:04:02 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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15:04:22 <Zakim> + +091211aaaa
15:04:31 <Zakim> +unl
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15:04:35 <Roger> zakim, aaaa is Roger
15:04:35 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
15:04:39 <Zakim> +??P5
15:05:11 <lars> zakim, ??P5 is lars
15:05:11 <Zakim> +lars; got it
15:05:22 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
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15:06:33 <John_Boyer> scribe: Leigh
15:06:40 <John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
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15:07:07 <Zakim> + +1.541.754.aabb
15:07:20 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Steven, Keith, MarkB, Charlie, Rafael, Sebastian
15:07:29 <Blake> zakim, aabb is me
15:07:30 <Zakim> +Blake; got it
15:07:51 <unl> zakim, mute me
15:07:51 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
15:08:39 <Zakim> +??P36
15:08:49 <ebruchez> zakim, ??P36 is ebruchez
15:08:49 <Zakim> +ebruchez; got it
15:10:29 <John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=67;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
15:10:48 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html
15:11:44 <John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=68;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
15:13:40 <nick> if we drop the multiple variants we should use the ones from the specs
15:15:51 <John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=70;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
15:16:16 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#fn-get-seconds-from-duration
15:17:51 <lars> zakim, mute me
15:17:51 <Zakim> lars should now be muted
15:18:13 <nick> it can be me, but can't check my computer is really slow
15:18:37 <John_Boyer> seconds("P1Y2M")
15:18:43 <John_Boyer> return 0?
15:19:15 <nick> it was me ;) seconds("P1Y2M") returns 0 and not NaN because the input is a valid duration but
15:19:15 <nick> the seconds function doesn't takes months and years into account.
15:20:41 <Roger_> Rafael sent an email about this issue giving and aditional sample
15:21:46 <John_Boyer> link?
15:21:51 <Roger_> seconds("P1Y2M3DT10H30M1.5S") returns 297001.5
15:24:02 <John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=71;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
15:25:12 <John_Boyer> 28http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#fn-choose <http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/>
15:25:36 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#fn-choose
15:36:36 <nick> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath20/#doc-xpath-IfExpr
15:36:56 <nick> Conditional expressions have a special rule for propagating dynamic errors. If the effective value of the test expression is true, the conditional expression ignores (does not raise) any dynamic errors encountered in the else-expression. In this case, since the else-expression can have no observable effect, it need not be evaluated. Similarly, if the effective value of the test expression is false, the conditional expression ignores any dynamic errors encountere
15:37:18 <nick> do we need to specify this for our choose function?
15:46:54 <lars> who is playing tetris?!?
15:49:18 <lars> zakim, unmute me
15:49:18 <Zakim> lars should no longer be muted
15:50:57 <nick> I persanally feel better with the current wording too, but can't give a good reason
15:53:01 <nick> but you know the type in front, only when you have extension functions that return an object
16:01:33 <nick> bye
16:01:33 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:01:34 <Zakim> -kenneth
16:01:36 <Zakim> -unl
16:01:37 <Zakim> -ebruchez
16:01:38 <Zakim> -Blake
16:01:39 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:01:40 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:01:41 <Zakim> -Roger
16:01:43 <Zakim> -lars
16:01:44 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
16:01:45 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Boyer, kenneth, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, +091211aaaa, unl, Roger, lars, Leigh_Klotz, +1.541.754.aabb, Blake, ebruchez
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16:03:01 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
16:03:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:03:06 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
16:03:06 <RRSAgent> I see no action items