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14:14:22 <ericP> seems to complement nicely the coverage stuff i'm (working on|banging my head against)
14:19:30 <LeeF> SteveH - thanks for the info re: type promotion - I don't think we approved those yet
14:19:41 <SteveH> ok, great
14:27:15 <LeeF> Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly
14:27:26 <LeeF> Regrets: chimezie
14:27:32 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:28:06 <LeeF> Scribe: ??
14:28:19 <LeeF> agenda+ convene
14:28:31 <LeeF> agenda+ action items
14:28:40 <LeeF> agenda+ test suite
14:28:43 <SteveH> LeeF, is this likely to be a long one?
14:28:45 <LeeF> ...esp. distinct + type promotion
14:29:04 <LeeF> I don't see a lot of working group (as opposed to individual) work on the agenda
14:29:10 <LeeF> agenda+ implementation report update
14:29:41 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:29:41 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is
14:29:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, SteveH, AndyS, iv_an_ru, ericP
14:29:49 <LeeF> zakim, this will be DAWG
14:29:49 <Zakim> ok, LeeF, I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM already started
14:29:58 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:29:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0
14:30:04 <AndyS> zakim, ??P0 is me
14:30:04 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:30:18 <Zakim> +LeeF
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14:31:17 <Zakim> +??P4
14:31:23 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P4 is me
14:31:23 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:31:28 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
14:31:28 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
14:31:29 <Zakim> +EricP
14:33:20 <LeeF> Scribe: ericP
14:33:37 <ericP> Scribenick: ericP
14:33:52 <LeeF> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0013.html
14:34:08 <LeeF> LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0013.html
14:34:32 <LeeF> topic: Convene
14:35:18 <ericP> next meeting: 24 July, scribe: AndyS
14:35:46 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-minutes minutes from last week
14:36:16 <LeeF> approved
14:36:21 <LeeF> topic: action items
14:36:38 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to run the construct tests by 17 Ju [DONE]
14:36:53 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark approved sorting tests (1..10) as such [DONE]
14:37:06 <ericP> action -1
14:37:08 <ericP> action -2
14:37:17 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to generate overview page of data-r2 tests
14:37:47 <LeeF> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [PENDING] but progress 
14:38:08 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations (object of earl:subject)? [CONTINUES]
14:38:22 <LeeF> ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES]
14:38:34 <LeeF> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES]
14:38:38 <LeeF> agenda + fate of the protocol
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14:41:26 <LeeF> ACTION: Eric+Andy: Collect all the testing feature URIs and put in the documentation [CONTINUES]
14:41:40 <Zakim> +Souri_Das
14:41:57 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP &  chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES]
14:42:02 <LeeF> action -8
14:42:15 <LeeF> ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation
14:42:29 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES]
14:43:52 <AndyS> DE-*
14:44:03 <ericP> de-de
14:44:05 <LeeF> AndyS, ericP: discussion of what goes into the non-extended-langmatches testing
14:45:06 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES]
14:45:27 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES]
14:45:39 <LeeF> zakim, agenda?
14:45:39 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
14:45:40 <Zakim> 1. convene [from LeeF]
14:45:41 <Zakim> 2. action items [from LeeF]
14:45:42 <Zakim> 3. test suite [from LeeF]
14:45:43 <Zakim> 4. implementation report update [from LeeF]
14:45:44 <Zakim> 5. fate of the protocol [from LeeF]
14:45:48 <LeeF> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:45:48 <Zakim> agendum 3. "test suite" taken up [from LeeF]
14:47:13 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl
14:47:45 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve the type promotion tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl
14:48:54 <LeeF> approved
14:49:14 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark type promotion tests approved http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl
14:50:16 <LeeF> glitter passes 10 out of 10 distinct tests
14:50:24 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl
14:50:33 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve the 10 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl
14:50:49 <LeeF> approved
14:50:59 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark 10 distinct tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl as approved
14:51:12 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
14:51:12 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:51:13 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:51:14 <Zakim> 1. convene [from LeeF]
14:51:27 <LeeF> zakim, open agendum 1
14:51:27 <Zakim> agendum 1. "convene" taken up [from LeeF]
14:51:31 <LeeF> zakim, close agendum 1
14:51:31 <Zakim> agendum 1, convene, closed
14:51:32 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:51:34 <Zakim> 2. action items [from LeeF]
14:51:54 <LeeF> zakim, open and close agendum 2
14:51:54 <Zakim> I don't understand 'open and close agendum 2', LeeF
14:51:58 <LeeF> zakim, open agendum 2
14:51:58 <Zakim> agendum 2. "action items" taken up [from LeeF]
14:52:11 <LeeF> zakim, close agendum 2
14:52:11 <Zakim> agendum 2, action items, closed
14:52:13 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:52:14 <Zakim> 4. implementation report update [from LeeF]
14:52:40 <LeeF> topic: short name
14:52:53 <AndyS> ==> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/
14:53:12 <LeeF> ericP will ask about having a short document at /TR/sparql with pointers to QL, protocol, results, and JSON?
14:54:29 <LeeF> precedent: was done for SOAP
14:54:41 <AndyS> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/soap/
14:55:26 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs
14:55:43 <LeeF> zakim, take up agenda 4
14:55:43 <Zakim> agendum 4. "implementation report update" taken up [from LeeF]
14:58:35 <LeeF> things happening: ericP working on coverage, lee working on test overview, EARL summary, note to implementors
14:58:46 <LeeF> also possibly ivan and orri working on service for testing public SPARQL endpoints
14:58:50 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
14:58:50 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:58:51 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:58:53 <Zakim> 5. fate of the protocol [from LeeF]
14:58:54 <LeeF> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:58:54 <Zakim> agendum 5. "fate of the protocol" taken up [from LeeF]
15:03:26 <LeeF> I see the protocol schedule as being somewhat at-risk given our charter end date of the end of November - still can be done, but a bit doubtful
15:03:53 <ericP> AndyS: we lack SOAP impls
15:04:21 <ericP> LeeF: we 1/2-wrote one at IBM
15:04:38 <ericP> ... could take this to the CG
15:05:04 <ericP> ... difficult to put together impl criteria that doesn't include the SOAP bindings
15:05:55 <ericP> ericP: do impls need to do SOAP?
15:06:06 <ericP> LeeF: iirc, they just need to do *a* binding
15:06:15 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-protocol/#conformance
15:08:14 <LeeF> adjourned
15:08:55 <ericP> ericP: odd that you can impl a non-HTTP, non-SOAP binding and still claim to protoocl conformance
15:09:02 <ericP> PROPOSED: oh well
15:09:07 <ericP> APPROVED: no objections
15:09:09 <AndyS> http://jena.hpl.hp.com/~afs/SPARQL-Update.html
15:09:22 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:09:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html ericP
15:09:27 <AndyS> And http://www.w3.org/2005/01/yacker/uploads/CasadedSPARQL?lang=perl&markup=html
15:09:37 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make minutes work-readable
15:09:37 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes work-readable', ericP.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:09:41 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make minutes work-visible
15:09:41 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes work-visible', ericP.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:09:53 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
15:09:53 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make minutes world-readable
15:09:53 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes world-readable', ericP.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:09:58 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make minutes world-access
15:09:58 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes world-access', LeeF.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:10:02 <ericP> RRSAgent, please leave
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> I see 13 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-actions.rdf :
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to generate overview page of data-r2 tests [3]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-37-17
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [PENDING] but progress  [4]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-37-47
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations (object of earl:subject)? [CONTINUES] [5]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-38-08
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES] [6]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-38-22
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [7]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-38-34
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP &  chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] [9]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-41-57
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [10]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-42-15
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [11]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-42-29
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [12]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-45-06
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] [13]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-45-27
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to mark type promotion tests approved http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl [14]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-49-14
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to mark 10 distinct tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl as approved [15]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-50-59
15:10:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs [16]
15:10:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-irc#T14-55-26
15:10:07 <ericP> Zakim, please leave
15:10:07 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were AndyS, LeeF, SteveH, EricP, Souri_Das
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