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14:54:56 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
14:55:10 <Charlie> * hello from sunny dublin
14:55:31 <John_Boyer> back at you from rainy Victoria
14:56:42 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0014.html
14:57:33 <Schnitz> zakim, code?
14:57:33 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Schnitz
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14:58:24 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:58:25 <Schnitz> hello wellsk
14:58:32 <Zakim> +Joern_Turner
14:58:56 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
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14:59:15 <Schnitz> problems dialing into the french bridge
14:59:17 <Roger> zakim, code?
14:59:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger
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14:59:33 <jturner> zakim, mute me
14:59:33 <Zakim> sorry, jturner, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:59:35 <Zakim> +??P14
14:59:42 <Zakim> + +1.919.254.aaaa
14:59:45 <Schnitz> zakim, ??p14
14:59:45 <Zakim> I don't understand '??p14', Schnitz
14:59:46 <Zakim> +??P22
14:59:53 <Schnitz> zakim, ??p14 is me
14:59:53 <Zakim> +Schnitz; got it
14:59:57 <David_Landwehr> Zakim, ??P22 is David_Landwehr
14:59:57 <Zakim> +David_Landwehr; got it
15:00:17 <Zakim> +Susan_Borgrink
15:00:20 <John_Boyer> zakim, aaaa is wellsk
15:00:20 <Zakim> +wellsk; got it
15:00:38 <jturner> Joern_Turner is me
15:00:40 <Zakim> +??P42
15:00:51 <ebruchez> ebruchez has joined #forms
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15:01:00 <Roger> zakim, ??p42 is Roger
15:01:00 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
15:01:05 <Schnitz> jturner, you need to add a zakim infront :-)
15:01:18 <Roger> zakim, Roger has Rafael
15:01:18 <Zakim> +Rafael; got it
15:01:22 <jturner> zakim, Joern_Turner is me
15:01:22 <Zakim> +jturner; got it
15:01:31 <jturner> zakim, mute me
15:01:31 <Zakim> jturner should now be muted
15:01:46 <Nick> Nick has joined #Forms
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15:03:01 <lars> zakim, code
15:03:11 <John_Boyer> 36767
15:03:15 <Zakim> +??P28
15:03:19 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
15:03:21 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', lars
15:03:25 <ebruchez> zakim, ??P28 is ebruchez
15:03:25 <klotz> ah, the correct command was John_Boyer, code
15:03:27 <Zakim> +ebruchez; got it
15:03:29 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
15:03:30 <lars> thanks john :)
15:03:32 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
15:03:38 <Schnitz> zakim, mute me
15:03:40 <John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
15:03:41 <markbirbeck> John, I'm afraid I won't be able to call in...just come off the XHTML call, and now have to phone the office.
15:03:49 <Zakim> Schnitz should now be muted
15:03:58 <markbirbeck> Will remain on IRC.
15:03:58 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Blake, Ulrich, Steven (on IRC), Charlie (on IRC), MarkB
15:04:20 <John_Boyer> OK, thanks mark... Jan tells me we need an upgrade on the XForms 1.1 schema
15:04:23 <John_Boyer> are you up for that?
15:04:39 <markbirbeck> Yes...we never managed to finish it.
15:04:45 <markbirbeck> But I know what needs doing.
15:04:52 <markbirbeck> Yes.
15:05:05 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
15:05:07 <markbirbeck> But how about I do it during my day time next week, during FtF?
15:05:22 <John_Boyer> That would be awesome, Mark!
15:05:52 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Blake, Ulrich, Steven (on IRC), Charlie (on IRC), MarkB (on IRC)
15:06:07 <Nick> zakim, mute me
15:06:07 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:06:13 <Zakim> + +6aabb
15:06:31 <lars> zakim, +6aabb is me
15:06:31 <Zakim> +lars; got it
15:06:37 <markbirbeck> I.e., I'll set aside all of Wednesday for XForms-related stuff--will join the call around 2pm my time, and will spend the morning on the schemas.
15:06:47 <lars> zakim, mute me
15:06:47 <Zakim> lars should now be muted
15:07:03 <markbirbeck> (Damn...you have that in writing now. :) )
15:07:12 <John_Boyer> yes :-)
15:07:24 <klotz> ACTION: Mark Birbeck to update XForms 1.1 Schemas.
15:07:43 <markbirbeck> What about non-repudiation?
15:07:44 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0014.html
15:08:04 <John_Boyer> much crypto theory is based on witnesses...
15:08:33 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
15:09:14 <markbirbeck> Sorry...one last thing. Apologies that I still haven't registered for next week!! I will only be able to attend remotely. Would a Skype connection be possible to save on my phone bill? Thanks.
15:10:39 <Charlie> not sure what type of local equipment is required for that...some type of mic and speakers...
15:10:48 <Charlie> i can investigate the conf room when i get back tomorrow
15:11:25 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'steven' (internally: "(?i)steven")
15:11:29 <Charlie> assuming steven has skype id etc
15:11:34 <markbirbeck> Thanks. Yes, just a PC. Steven usually tries to run it from his machine, but it's a bit inconvenient for him.
15:11:53 <Steven> I have a faster machine now
15:11:56 <Steven> with a dual core
15:12:02 <Steven> so you cna have one of my cores
15:12:10 <Charlie> :}
15:14:17 <markbirbeck> :)
15:17:17 <Steven> rrsagent, grep -i steven
15:17:17 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'steven' (internally: "(?i)steven")
15:17:30 <Steven> rrsagent, grep Steven
15:17:30 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'Steven'
15:17:36 <Steven> hmm
15:17:57 <Nick> should implement subset may implement the whole
15:18:23 <Steven> rrsagent, grep -i <steven>
15:18:23 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for '<steven>' (internally: "(?i)<steven>")
15:18:26 <John_Boyer> must implement subset, may implement whole
15:18:40 <Steven> rrsagent, grep <Steven>
15:18:40 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for '<Steven>'
15:19:18 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0005.html
15:19:25 <John_Boyer> XForms at XML conference
15:19:29 <John_Boyer> a few options above
15:20:48 <Nick> I think they did something like that at XTech
15:21:13 <Schnitz> zakim, unmute me
15:21:13 <Zakim> Schnitz should no longer be muted
15:21:28 <Schnitz> zakim, who is making noise?
15:21:39 <Zakim> Schnitz, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
15:21:54 <Schnitz> zakim, r u nuts?
15:21:55 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Schnitz.
15:24:40 <John_Boyer> Any objections to my pursuing Tuesday Dec. 4 as our XForms evening activity?
15:25:08 <Steven> Yes! I have an objection
15:25:16 <Steven> (I have to be in NL on Dec 5)
15:25:20 <John_Boyer> tell us more...
15:25:45 <Steven> Sinterklaas, it would be like missing Xmas for an American/Brit
15:26:08 <John_Boyer> OK, Monday Dec. 3 then...
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15:30:58 <Schnitz> zakim, mute me
15:30:58 <Zakim> Schnitz should now be muted
15:32:48 <John_Boyer> Proposal: work on last call issues as a work bee with two person teams...
15:33:24 <John_Boyer> with coordination to editor and issues master (Ulrich)
15:34:15 <Schnitz> zakim, unmute me
15:34:15 <Zakim> Schnitz should no longer be muted
15:41:10 <Nick> and some contain dozens of different icomments
15:41:40 <Zakim> -David_Landwehr
15:44:31 <Schnitz> zakim, mute me
15:44:31 <Zakim> Schnitz should now be muted
15:45:12 <Schnitz> zakim, who is here?
15:45:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see jturner (muted), John_Boyer, Schnitz (muted), wellsk, Susan_Borgrink, Roger, ebruchez, Leigh_Klotz, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), lars (muted)
15:45:15 <Zakim> Roger has Rafael
15:45:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see Nick, lars, klotz, Rafael, ebruchez, SusanB, Roger, wellsk, Charlie, RRSAgent, John_Boyer, jturner, Zakim, Schnitz, Steven, markbirbeck
15:47:08 <Nick> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/xforms11.full.zip
15:47:27 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0008.html
15:47:32 <John_Boyer> just assign action item to me please
15:49:45 <John_Boyer> next topic is instance replacement fix
15:50:46 <jturner> zakim, unmute me
15:50:46 <Zakim> jturner should no longer be muted
15:52:06 <Nick> wil it also send the read-only/read-write valid/invalid, .. events?
15:52:12 <John_Boyer> yes
15:52:22 <John_Boyer> that's the next bullet point in refresh
15:52:32 <John_Boyer> if marked for xvc, then marked for all the other MIP events
16:00:49 <Nick> no
16:00:56 <Nick> but don't you need to do a rebuild when you have changed a dynamic  dependency (predicate)
16:01:09 <John_Boyer> yes agreed
16:03:20 <Schnitz> zakim, unmute me
16:03:20 <Zakim> Schnitz should no longer be muted
16:03:23 <Nick> bye, see you next week
16:03:23 <Roger> bye
16:03:25 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:03:26 <Zakim> -lars
16:03:27 <Zakim> -ebruchez
16:03:27 <jturner> bye
16:03:28 <Zakim> -wellsk
16:03:29 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:03:31 <Zakim> -Susan_Borgrink
16:03:33 <Zakim> -Schnitz
16:03:35 <Zakim> -jturner
16:03:39 <Zakim> -Roger
16:03:41 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:03:42 <wellsk> wellsk has left #forms
16:03:43 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
16:03:53 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Boyer, +1.919.254.aaaa, Schnitz, David_Landwehr, Susan_Borgrink, wellsk, Rafael, jturner, Leigh_Klotz, ebruchez, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, lars
16:04:00 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
16:04:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:04:10 <John_Boyer> rragent, make log public
16:04:17 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
16:04:25 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
16:04:25 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-forms-actions.rdf :
16:04:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark Birbeck to update XForms 1.1 Schemas. [1]
16:04:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-forms-irc#T15-07-24