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13:36:33 <ivan> Meeting: SWEO Weekly telco
13:36:39 <ivan> Chair: Susie
13:37:22 <ivan> Regrets: Dunja, Pasquale, Uldis
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14:00:11 <wing> zakim, code
14:00:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', wing
14:00:13 <wing> zakim, code?
14:00:13 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing
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14:00:33 <Zakim> +??P8
14:00:37 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
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14:00:41 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
14:00:41 <Zakim> +wing; got it
14:01:04 <Zakim> + +1.317.435.aaaa
14:01:07 <Zakim> +??P11
14:01:53 <Zakim> + +49.892.180.aabb
14:02:05 <Zakim> +??P17
14:02:15 <Zakim> +Karen
14:02:23 <kjetilk> Zakim, ??P17 is me
14:02:23 <Zakim> +kjetilk; got it
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14:02:59 <martind> zakim, ??p8 is me
14:02:59 <Zakim> +martind; got it
14:03:14 <ivan> zakim, code?
14:03:15 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), ivan
14:03:56 <Zakim> +Danny
14:04:02 <ivan> zakim, danny is ivan
14:04:02 <Zakim> +ivan; got it
14:04:05 <kjetilk> Zakim, who is here?
14:04:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see wing, martind, +1.317.435.aaaa, ??P11, PaulaP (muted), kjetilk, Karen, ivan
14:04:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see Karen, PaulaP, iomurchu, wing, martind, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan, kjetilk
14:05:05 <Karen> Today's Agenda
14:05:09 <Karen> 1. Summary of F2F
14:05:14 <Karen> 2. Community Task actions
14:05:23 <Karen> ...information gathering
14:05:37 <Karen> 3. Update with use cases
14:05:41 <Karen> 4. Logo update
14:05:44 <Karen> 5. Survey update
14:05:51 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aacc
14:05:52 <Karen> 6. Progress on SW brochure
14:06:19 <Karen> F2F last week in Norway, hosted by Norwegian Oil Association
14:06:47 <Karen> Susie: Started by discussing progress since Nov. 2006 F2F
14:06:55 <Karen> ...progress in regards to Charter
14:07:01 <Karen> ...Outreach and Education
14:07:14 <Karen> ...wonder how we can do more education; talking to universities perhaps
14:07:39 <Karen> ...Susie to speak with Nigel [?]; spoke with Ian, thought it would be tricky
14:07:42 <Karen> q+
14:07:47 <Karen> ...may not be an easy model
14:08:07 <Karen> ...Ivan will also contact some people for ideas
14:08:25 <Karen> ...another area in charter is organizing CIO-CTO type meetings
14:08:38 <Karen> ...thinking it would be difficult to outreach to companies on our own
14:08:43 <Karen> ...hard to access these people
14:09:07 <Karen> ...maybe outreach one level lower, who may be more accessible than CTO-CIO
14:09:16 <Karen> ...wonders about working with analysts on a meeting
14:09:26 <Karen> ...for example, Gartner collaboration
14:09:32 <Karen> ...or others like IDC or Forrester
14:10:01 <Karen> Action: Karen to investigate analyst relations
14:10:37 <Karen> Susie: would like to see more materials before we do outreach to new audiences
14:10:44 <Karen> ...talked about community projects
14:10:59 <Karen> ...decided to list the community projects on SWEO IG main page,
14:11:02 <Karen> not just on wiki
14:11:20 <Karen> ...Kjetikl and Ivan to do
14:12:06 <Karen> Kjetilk: I have started but not done yet
14:12:50 <Karen> ...I'll write blog post, status
14:12:58 <Karen> ...not sure how much to include
14:13:10 <Karen> Susie: description of community projects should be brief; 2-3 sentences
14:13:16 <Karen> ...provide context in our wolrd
14:13:22 <Karen> s/woldr/world
14:13:32 <Karen> ...also talked about use cases, working on SW brochure
14:13:57 <Karen> ...logo discussion for all of SW standards
14:14:22 <Karen> ...small but productive group in Norway 
14:14:34 <Karen> ...second agenda item, Community Project
14:14:50 <Karen> Kjetilk: no further updates
14:15:57 <Karen> Susie: Updates on projects
14:16:29 <Karen> Action: Kjetilk to do outreach 
14:16:48 <Karen> Susie: Use cases is next agenda item
14:17:25 <Karen> Ivan: I actively solicited use cases
14:17:45 <kjetilk> Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation 
14:17:45 <Karen> ...NFK, big Norwegian TV company has a huge archive of digitized material
14:17:56 <Karen> ...presentation at conference; they said they would provide use case
14:17:59 <kjetilk> s/NFK/NRK/
14:18:02 <Karen> ...some others I am following up with
14:18:19 <Karen> ...in Boston I met June from Alzheimer's Research Foundation
14:18:26 <Karen> ...she may provide use case as well
14:18:33 <Karen> ...FAO Susie will review
14:18:39 <kjetilk> q+ 
14:18:45 <Karen> ...Siemens, and ?
14:18:54 <Karen> Renault
14:19:05 <ivan> ack karen
14:19:15 <ivan> ack kjetil
14:19:40 <Karen> Kjetil: possible use case from ?
14:19:45 <Karen> Ivan: also from Computa
14:19:48 <Karen> s/Computas
14:20:34 <Zakim> +??P6
14:20:38 <Karen> Susie: I have action item to review use cases and to email companies to establish new contacts
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14:20:54 <Karen> Susie: I saw Giles Monday
14:21:01 <kidehen> sorry 
14:21:03 <Karen> ...asked about use case from Pfizer
14:21:07 <kidehen> meeting overrun
14:21:21 <ivan> zakim, ??P6 is Kingsley
14:21:21 <Zakim> +Kingsley; got it
14:21:29 <Karen> ...company is reorganizing; he probably cannot provide right now
14:21:40 <Karen> ...Ted Slater in Ann Arbor may be helpful from Pfizer
14:21:46 <Karen> ...may have more time than Giles
14:22:22 <Karen> Susie: I'll contact Sun; recent Business Week article referenced Kodak
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14:22:58 <Karen> Action: Karen to send Susie Kodak contact person
14:23:14 <Karen> Susie: Chen is working on Chinese medicine portal
14:23:27 <Karen> ...also Nokia for a case study
14:23:47 <Karen> ...also Audi, GM, and Ford
14:24:02 <Karen> ...Mary Tomale from McDonald Bradley doing defense work
14:24:20 <Karen> Ivan: What I hope is after we publish first batch, we'll hear from more companies
14:24:33 <kjetilk> ivan: you're hard to hear
14:24:41 <kjetilk> Zakim, who is talking?
14:24:52 <Zakim> kjetilk, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Kingsley (58%), martind (9%), +1.317.435.aaaa (44%), ??P11 (51%)
14:24:56 <Karen> Susie: Yes, first round should help attract more
14:25:31 <Melli> Susie, the Pfizer project from UK is going well, and we might be able to get a use case from them.
14:25:46 <Karen> Susie: options for logos for Semantic Web
14:25:54 <Karen> although Benji cannot make call today
14:26:01 <Karen> ...please look at logos for next time
14:26:16 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
14:26:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see wing, martind, +1.317.435.aaaa, ??P11, PaulaP (muted), kjetilk, Karen, ivan, +1.603.897.aacc, Kingsley
14:26:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see Melli, kidehen, Karen, PaulaP, iomurchu, wing, martind, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan, kjetilk
14:26:19 <Karen> ...Ian Jacobs, head of W3C CommTeam, wants to work with us
14:26:24 <Karen> ...so that's good
14:26:26 <kjetilk> s/Benji/bengee/
14:26:42 <martind> susie hasn't got phone port....
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14:27:50 <LeeF> apologies for being late / not on the phone, everyone
14:28:17 <Karen> Action: Karen to finalize SW survey summary
14:29:04 <Karen> Susie: Any progress on SW brochure?
14:29:16 <PaulaP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/group/wiki/Collateral_Material
14:29:17 <Karen> Paula: new version on wiki
14:29:44 <Karen> ...I incorporated updates based on F2F meeting; please everyone look and give feedback
14:30:00 <Karen> ...made quite a few changes
14:30:31 <Karen> Susie: invites everyone to look at new version
14:30:49 <Karen> ...and send/email URL out to list 
14:30:59 <Karen> Action: Paula will send email and explain changes
14:31:17 <Karen> Susie: Two sections to SWEO wiki, public and private
14:31:25 <Karen> ...can you post to both?
14:31:52 <Karen> Paula: I can, but thought we would only make final version public
14:32:30 <Karen> Susie: it's ok to post much like the FAQ 
14:32:49 <Karen> Action: Paula to move to public wiki
14:33:03 <Karen> Susie: Exciting that we finished the FAQ
14:33:15 <Karen> ...and Ivan arranged to publish it on W3C home page
14:33:34 <Karen> Karen: also referencing it for outreach
14:33:51 <Karen> Susie: Wing mentioned his presentation to SiCOP went well
14:33:57 <Karen> ...a US government organization
14:34:16 <Karen> ...he had to do it remotely, so hard to gauge audience reaction
14:34:40 <Karen> Wing: Not sure, but it was straight forward; one question about Cambridge SW gathering
14:34:59 <kidehen> wing: url for slide deck?
14:35:02 <Karen> Susie: Likes Wing's presentation and suggests pointer
14:35:13 <Karen> ...SW gathering held last night
14:35:20 <Karen> ...Kingsley did nice job hosting
14:35:31 <Karen> ...many extra people from BioIT World attendees
14:35:47 <Karen> ...we had promoted it and can do more outreach to them
14:35:48 <Karen> q+
14:36:04 <Karen> Susie: Feedback on SW gatherings; suggest that formats vary
14:36:16 <Karen> ...networking, 2-3 demos, then R&D pub is format
14:36:37 <Karen> ...maybe do a special gathering one month; or a demo focus another meeting; or panel
14:36:51 <kidehen> Susie: +1
14:36:52 <Karen> ...invites comments on these ideas
14:37:43 <Karen> Karen: mentions inquiries from BioIT about other SW gatherings in other cities
14:37:58 <Karen> Susie: SB Forum meetings quarterly, have experts
14:38:11 <Karen> ...next meeting coincides with Semantic Technologies conference
14:38:24 <Karen> ...Susie and Eric Miller on panel, Google, and Booz Allen Hamilton
14:38:39 <Karen> ...panel being moderated by Jeff Pollack, Oracle
14:38:42 <Melli> I have a comment
14:39:20 <Karen> Susie: Bengee and Leo may have participated in Web Mondays in Germany
14:39:25 <kidehen> q+
14:39:29 <Karen> ...nice to start a gathering in China
14:40:38 <ivan> ack karen
14:40:41 <ivan> ack kidehen
14:40:42 <Karen> Kingsley: I have a to do item
14:40:59 <Karen> ...SW Web gatherings; what's happening in Banff?
14:41:06 <Karen> ...project is part of SWEO
14:41:14 <Karen> ...should we merge that?
14:41:18 <Karen> Susie: what is date?
14:41:31 <Karen> Kingsley: 5:30-7:00pm before main event on Wed.,
14:41:40 <Karen> 9 May
14:41:41 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:41:44 <Zakim> -wing
14:41:58 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
14:41:58 <Zakim> +wing; got it
14:41:59 <Karen> Susie: encourage people to mention SWEO affiliation
14:42:12 <Karen> Kingsley: we should see good exposure
14:42:32 <Karen> ...lots of Europeans attending; introduce them to North American participants
14:42:42 <Karen> Susie: we will skip SWEO call next week
14:42:53 <Karen> ...encourage people to attend in Banff if you are there
14:43:10 <Karen> Kingsley: Info-gathering form is done
14:43:16 <Karen> ...should I put out a demo version?
14:43:28 <Karen> Ivan: I would wait for Leo for that
14:43:44 <Karen> Action: Kingsley to review form with Leo
14:43:49 <Karen> q+
14:43:55 <ivan> ack karen
14:45:03 <Karen> Karen: Is there an opportunity to meet anyone at SW Tech conference to talk about SWEO group in Bay area
14:45:13 <Karen> Susie: Monday evening may be an open time
14:45:22 <Karen> ...not sure what we could do
14:45:24 <wing> zakim, mute me
14:45:24 <Zakim> wing should now be muted
14:46:41 <Karen> Karen: suggests possible meeting with company or university contacts about doing gatherings similar to MIT
14:47:16 <Karen> Susie: SB Forum already does this in Bay area
14:47:34 <Karen> ...I can send you invite; Jeff Pollack heads those
14:47:38 <Karen> ...more commercially focused
14:48:14 <Karen> Kingsley: we don't do too much commercial work on East Coast;
14:48:25 <Karen> I'd like to get some Venture Capitalists to attend
14:48:37 <Karen> ...on West Coast they talk about how to commercialize
14:48:45 <Karen> ...there is an imbalance that we should address
14:48:57 <Karen> Susie: maybe we do a panel at one of next gatherings with VCs
14:49:03 <Karen> ...let's talk in Banff next week
14:49:14 <Karen> about outreach to VC community
14:49:26 <Karen> Kingsley: I expect some VCs and Angels to attend next time
14:49:34 <Karen> ...I will extend official invite
14:49:57 <Karen> Susie: moves to adjourn
14:50:09 <Karen> ...next week's call is cancelled
14:50:12 <PaulaP> bye
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14:50:20 <Zakim> -Karen
14:50:21 <Zakim> -PaulaP
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14:50:22 <Zakim> -ivan
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14:50:34 <Zakim> Attendees were wing, +1.317.435.aaaa, PaulaP, Karen, kjetilk, martind, ivan, +1.603.897.aacc, Kingsley
14:51:30 <ivan> zakim, bye
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14:52:04 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:52:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-sweo-minutes.html ivan
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