IRC log of i18nits on 2007-01-10

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14:55:33 [fsasaki]

zakim, this will be i18n

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ok, fsasaki; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

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meeting: i18n ITS Working Group

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chair: Yves

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scribe: Felix

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scribeNick: fsasaki

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0000.html

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rrsagent, make log public

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I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started

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+Yves_Savourel

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+Felix

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+Claus

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topic: action items

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action: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with without the element, using xmlns instead (DROPPED)

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Yves: let's drop this, it will be no problem to implement this

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.. you do namespace binding at the beginning of the code, it is no problem

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.. in DOM it's no problem

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Christian: was concerned to have a clear picture what is implemented by Andrzje company

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Felix: we don't need that picture to move forward from CR to PR

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s/Andrze/Andrzej/

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Christian: what could Andrzej's company do to claim conformance with ITS?

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.. submit their test results? What is the relation between the test result page and the conformance criteria?

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Yves: you can use your own output, you don't need to use the output format we do

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RESOLUTION: Remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft

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action: Editors to remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft

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action: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test report script on w3c server is possible (DONE)

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Yves: it seems to be working, we noticed differences on the output

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action: Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal. (DONE)

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Yves: everybody agrees on the current format

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.. we have not generated ruby, directionality, language information yet

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action: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works the right way. (ONGOING)

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Yves: I'll send an reminder for that

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action items related to editors:

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Christian: I'll make the change for the caveats of XPath, and the overriding and inheritance

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action: Christian to send an update with Yves' feedback on AI 03. (ONGOING)

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action: Editors to add to a draft s.t. about the output of ITS processing. (PENDING)

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Yves: see sec. 5.4 " Precedence between selections"

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(Yves describes the issue)

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Yves: propose to change 5.4 like this:

15:25:06 [chirLi]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0079.html

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.. bullet item 3 (part of it)

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.. which talks about XLink, should be in no 2

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action: Yves to rewrite sec. 5.4, group to discuss it on the list

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action: Editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like. (PENDING)

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Felix: I'll do that

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action: Felix to ask Jirka about whether he wants to participate in ITS actively. (DONE)

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Felix: just an admin question left, ready until next call I think

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action: Felix to change links from the WD to examples, so that they link to the input data directory (DROPPED)

15:31:23 [fsasaki]

Felix: do we need to have the same examples?

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Yves: no, as long as both the spec examples and the test suite examples are valid and work

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action: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version" attribute saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change. (DONE)

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action: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version" attribute saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change. (DONE)

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action: Felix to make the schematron fix. (DONE)

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change is at http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-its-20061102/#its-schematron-constraints

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Felix: name()='its:locNoteRule' is now self::its:locNoteRule

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http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#its-schematron-constraints

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action: Sebastian to add the XLink type attribute to the test suite files, Felix to do the same with the files related to the ODD file. (DONE)

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action: Yves to add the inheritance example to CVS. (DONE)

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topic: remaining ITS tagset issues

15:37:43 [YvesS]

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=ITS

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Yves: 3319 can be closed after edit in draft

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.. 3325 is for BP doc

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.. 4096 is for the editors currently

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.. 4098 also editors change

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.. 4099 can be closed

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.. we decided on the output and listed at http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/ImpReport

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Felix: agree

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rrsagent, where am I?

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See http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-i18nits-irc#T15-42-57

15:44:22 [fsasaki]

Yves: new issue from Felix, see http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4152

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http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-its-20061102/#span.attributes

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The span attributes in the schema (the ODD document) are namespace qualified

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Felix: the span attributes in the schema (the ODD document) are namespace qualified

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Felix: I'd propose to allow for both notations, and prefer the not namespace qualified version

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action: Felix to post a proposal for both attribute notations on the span element

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topic: Test suite Comparison of the results.

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Yves: Felix found two problems, thanks for nothing that

15:51:24 [YvesS]

http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xslfile=http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/compare.xsl&xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/input-file-list.xml&content-type=&submit=transform

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Felix: now waiting for Sebastian's implementation

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topic: editing BP document

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Christian: should we contact Diane again?

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Yves: I'll make sure the built works and contact Diane later

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topic: AOB

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Felix: I'll be away next week

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-Claus

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-Yves_Savourel

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-Felix

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I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Claus

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present: Christian, Felix, Yves

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki

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