IRC log of hcls on 2006-12-07

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15:52:43 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/12/07-hcls-irc
15:53:04 [eneumann]
rrsagent, set minutes public
15:53:04 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'set minutes public', eneumann. Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:53:25 [chimezie]
hey eric
15:54:49 [eneumann]
rrsagent, set draft public
15:54:49 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'set draft public', eneumann. Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:55:02 [eneumann]
rrsagent, set log public
15:57:55 [ivan]
zakim, this will be hcls
15:57:55 [Zakim]
ok, ivan, I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM already started
15:57:55 [samwaldmatthias]
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15:58:30 [ivan]
zakim, dial ivan-home
15:58:30 [Zakim]
ok, ivan; the call is being made
15:58:30 [Zakim]
-Christophe_Poulain
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+Christophe_Poulain
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+Ivan
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+[IPcaller]
15:59:01 [samwaldmatthias]
thats me.
15:59:10 [samwaldmatthias]
(IPcaller)
15:59:20 [ivan]
zakim, ipcaller is matthias
15:59:20 [Zakim]
+matthias; got it
16:01:36 [BillBug]
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+Bill_Bug
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+??P42
16:05:29 [mscottm]
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16:05:55 [eneumann]
zakim, +P42 is mscottm
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+Vipul_Kashyap
16:05:58 [Zakim]
sorry, eneumann, I do not recognize a party named '+P42'
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+Don_Doherty
16:06:29 [eneumann]
zakim, P42 is mscottm
16:06:29 [Zakim]
sorry, eneumann, I do not recognize a party named 'P42'
16:06:36 [Zakim]
+Kei
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16:06:49 [ivan]
zakim, ??P42 is mscottm
16:06:50 [Zakim]
+mscottm; got it
16:07:03 [eneumann]
(to Ivan, thanks)
16:08:58 [eneumann]
zakim, who's here?
16:08:58 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Christophe_Poulain, Ivan, matthias, Bill_Bug, mscottm, Vipul_Kashyap, Don_Doherty, Kei
16:09:00 [Zakim]
On IRC I see vipul, mscottm, BillBug, samwaldmatthias, RRSAgent, Zakim, eneumann, ivan, chimezie
16:09:03 [Zakim]
+ +1.519.498.aaaa
16:10:41 [eneumann]
zakim, aaaa is helenchen
16:10:41 [Zakim]
+helenchen; got it
16:13:49 [vipul]
Eric: Frame the issues that came up
16:14:11 [vipul]
Eric: One liner to submit to Kei
16:14:45 [vipul]
Eric: Ideas and concepts exist outside our group and should be referred to without making it a big deal
16:15:00 [vipul]
Eric: some concepts B2B, Translational Medicine
16:15:10 [vipul]
Kei: OK to define these terms in our own context
16:16:16 [vipul]
Eric: Could Kei point to article that we can refer to...
16:16:26 [vipul]
Vipul: http://www.translational-medicine.com
16:16:58 [vipul]
Eric: Translational Medicine has a crisp definition as referred to the FDA Critical Path
16:17:22 [vipul]
Eric: But B2B is not well defined...
16:17:52 [vipul]
Kei: Give summary of what he has received
16:20:58 [vipul]
Kei: Current paper covers many of the "one-liner" viewpoints
16:21:18 [eneumann]
q?
16:21:20 [vipul]
Kei: Paper may need to be shortened a little bit
16:21:47 [eneumann]
summary of BMC one-liners: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Dec/0019.html
16:21:49 [vipul]
Kei: Personal preference is to describe different aspects of the HCLS group
16:22:04 [ivan]
q+
16:22:11 [vipul]
Kei: Vision should not be too ambitious and should be realistic
16:22:18 [BillBug]
q?
16:22:38 [BillBug]
q+
16:22:49 [eneumann]
ack ivan
16:23:10 [vipul]
Ivan: If we have problems with size, describing things separately is not feasible
16:23:23 [vipul]
Ivan: Have some acknowledgement about groups
16:23:30 [mscottm]
+1
16:23:39 [vipul]
Kei: Lot of the sections, including the introduction can be shortened...
16:24:02 [vipul]
Ivan: Let's have the paper in a presentable form and then cut the paper short
16:24:12 [eneumann]
ack BillBug
16:24:48 [vipul]
Bill: Is it going to be a vision paper? How is meant to interpolate with the E-Science/OBO Foundry proects
16:25:55 [ivan]
q+
16:26:29 [vipul]
Kei: E-Science link is important
16:27:20 [vipul]
Bill: Could be as simple as participants of those projects are participants of the HCLS group
16:28:34 [eneumann]
ack ivan
16:28:50 [vipul]
Ivan: Which other papers will be in this issue?
16:29:19 [vipul]
Kei: papers describing Biopax, Neuroscience data integration, the relationship between e-science and neuroscience, biological ontologies
16:30:58 [vipul]
Bill: Who is the editor?
16:31:22 [vipul]
Kei: huajun Chen and yiming wang are the two editors, who were also organizers of the Beijing workshop
16:32:07 [vipul]
Kei: BMC Bioinformatics asked them to submit 8 papers. They could select only 4-5 papers... Hence they approached us
16:32:15 [eneumann]
zakim, who's talking?
16:32:27 [Zakim]
eneumann, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: helenchen (23%), Bill_Bug (59%), Kei (9%)
16:32:59 [vipul]
Ivan: We can move the semantic web introduction into the editorial ... would give us space... part of some comprehensive collection
16:33:14 [eneumann]
zakim, who's talking?
16:33:25 [Zakim]
eneumann, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: helenchen (61%), Vipul_Kashyap (10%), Kei (13%)
16:34:59 [vipul]
Eric: 4 of the one liners mentioned vision
16:35:10 [vipul]
Eric: Matthias proposed a blending
16:35:32 [vipul]
Matthias: Best compromise that can be made and most enjoyable things from the readers viewpoint
16:35:58 [vipul]
q
16:36:17 [vipul]
q+
16:36:51 [eneumann]
ack vipul
16:37:51 [vipul]
Eric: continues to be many different use scenarios
16:38:12 [vipul]
RDF data, capturing semantics for inferencing, pure vocabulary, tagging approach
16:38:49 [vipul]
Eric: controlled vocabulary is mainstream
16:39:11 [vipul]
helen: focus on use case
16:39:19 [vipul]
vipul: +1 to use cases
16:40:07 [vipul]
helen: too premature to call it results..
16:40:09 [mscottm]
+1
16:40:58 [vipul]
helen: liked the comprehensive use case Parkinson's Disease
16:41:03 [vipul]
q+
16:41:19 [eneumann]
ack vipul
16:41:23 [BillBug]
endorse focus on multi-perspective view of Parkinson's use case - and how SemWebTech is particular useful in each context.
16:42:29 [vipul]
Eric: Use case needs to be enough to add the problems and what can we add to make it easy
16:43:19 [vipul]
Eric: Trying to bring together large digital collections... Represent the metadata in different RDF forms and postpone the standardization piece...
16:43:34 [vipul]
q+
16:45:05 [eneumann]
ack vipul
16:45:31 [Zakim]
-helenchen
16:45:50 [vipul]
Eric: mappings need to be dealt with but not in a defacto standard mode
16:47:22 [Zakim]
+helenchen
16:48:07 [mscottm]
Just for the record: When asked, Kei told me that his name is pronounced as "Kay".
16:48:20 [eneumann]
TR def: http://www.fda.gov/oc/initiatives/criticalpath/whitepaper.html
16:49:24 [eneumann]
ACTION: Kei to develop the "theme" for the paper based on the already gathered input
16:50:57 [eneumann]
(theme also includes objectives)
16:52:08 [Zakim]
+Alan_Ruttenberg
16:54:44 [vipul]
Ivan: Need permission of publishers to post the papers on the W3C website
16:55:00 [eneumann]
"translational research -- multidisciplinary scientific efforts directed at "accelerating therapy development" (i.e., moving basic discoveries into the clinic more efficiently)"
16:55:09 [vipul]
Vipul summarized the book chapter content he was invited to submit to the rest of the group
16:57:19 [vipul]
Kei: Will put out the perspectives over the weekend
16:58:51 [eneumann]
ACTION: TC for Dec 14, Helen Chen scribing
16:59:02 [Zakim]
-helenchen
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-Bill_Bug
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-Alan_Ruttenberg
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-Vipul_Kashyap
16:59:27 [Zakim]
-Kei
16:59:28 [Zakim]
-Christophe_Poulain
16:59:29 [Zakim]
-Ivan
16:59:30 [Zakim]
-Don_Doherty
16:59:31 [Zakim]
-mscottm
16:59:36 [Zakim]
-matthias
16:59:37 [Zakim]
SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
16:59:38 [Zakim]
Attendees were Christophe_Poulain, Ivan, matthias, Bill_Bug, Vipul_Kashyap, Don_Doherty, Kei, mscottm, +1.519.498.aaaa, helenchen, Alan_Ruttenberg
17:00:11 [ivan]
zakim, bye
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17:00:22 [ivan]
rrsagent, draft minutes
17:00:22 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/07-hcls-minutes.html ivan
17:00:29 [ivan]
rrsagent, bye
17:00:30 [RRSAgent]
I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/07-hcls-actions.rdf :
17:00:30 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Kei to develop the "theme" for the paper based on the already gathered input [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/07-hcls-irc#T16-49-24
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ACTION: TC for Dec 14, Helen Chen scribing [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/07-hcls-irc#T16-58-51