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RESOLUTION: previous minutes approved
pauld: done a bunch of work, have two specs,
basic is LC on Tuesday
... the other is (soon) first public WD
Jonathan: we finished dealing with at-risk
items
... we removed features and properties, maybe not yet in the editor's
draft
... the MTOM description is of interest to many people, should be done
soon
... issues list almost empty, we will see about republication
... may stop meeting regularly
Bob: resolved CR33 by introducing a set
of markers that divide the behavior for policy and for WSDL extension
... we are analyzing if we are breaking the namespace
... this would bring us back to LC, should be quick
... so we are out of the deadlock
... this work-in-progress will be input to OASIS WS-RM TC
Jonathan: is your consensus just a reformulation?
Bob: if some other protocol or layer defines
their own URLs, this provides a way to declare backchannel URLs
... we may start a taskforce with policy for work on assertions, or give a
proposal to policy group
Yves: we are close to PR, agreed on one-way
MEP, question about multicast
... the one-way MEP will be a WG note
... discussion on providing policy assertion for MTOM, first take was
positive, we'll talk about it again
MChapman: most issues of implementation have
been resolved
... formal semantics document is in progress of translation from LaTeX
... we are working on satisfying the exit criteria
... we have two potential (unmarked) features at risk, to be discussed
JacekK: not much is happening, got first LC
review from WS-Desc WG
... we will submit our WSDLs to the WS-Desc test suite
Felix: we have four issues and a few issues
related to optionality left for framework and attachment
... last call in november should be on time
... published FPWD of primer last week, working on guidelines for assertions
authors
JacekK: SAWSDL: 13-14 Nov, in Athens, GA, USA
plh: we were asked for WS test data
... anybody replied? anybody planning that?
... I think they mean SOAP messages, not descriptions
... does XMLP WG have something?
Yves: not sure our test messages are
representative of real usage
... will send them a pointer to what we have, already in touch with them for
something else
plh: addressing may have sample SOAP messages as well, will look into that
plh: we know F&P were removed
... WS-Desc WG discussed MTOM support - policy assertions, WSDL extension
... one company strongly wants the WSDL extension
... the WS-Desc WG would like the XMLP WG to make at least the policy
assertion
... but who will make the WSDL extension?
Jonathan: the WG has consensus we'd like to
have MTOM descriptive capabilities
... if the XMLP could do it, that would be optimal
... only one company wants WSDL extension, others support policy assertion
... it's a question bigger than our WG - exactly what capabilities should be
provided?
... strawpolls indicated something needs to be done, but it's not clear who
and what
plh: if XMLP decides not to do it, WS-Desc
would probably take it up
... there is a proposal from Canon for WSDL extension
Jonathan: it may be done similarly to what
Addressing does - policy assertion that is also wsdl extension
... but it's also a question of implementations for getting it through CR
... I'd like to see the XMLP WG to work on descriptive capabilities - there
are a lot of different axes about granularity and optionality
... we'd like to review that, and at least part of us wants the WSDL
extension
... it's also a question of WSDL 2.0 vs. WSDL 1.1
plh: will XMLP make a decision this week?
Yves: we'll talk about it at least, one of the points is rechartering
plh: I see that as purely administrative
plh: we may drop Nov 7 due to many regrets
... resolved to have next telcon Nov 21
Jonathan: may not make it Nov 21 (?)
meeting adjourned
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