IRC log of ua on 2006-10-05

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17:37:47 [jallan]
zakim, this will be wai_u
17:37:47 [Zakim]
ok, jallan; I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
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chair: Jim Allan
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scribe: Jan Richards
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Regrets: Charles M-N
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title: UAWG Teleconference
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WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started
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+Jim_Allan
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+Jan_Richards
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zakim [IBM] parente
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zakim, [IBM] is parente
18:03:50 [Zakim]
+parente; got it
18:06:02 [JR]
Topic: 7.1 Respect focus and selection conventions (P1)
18:07:07 [JR]
JA: Liked JR's ATAG reference.
18:07:28 [JR]
JA: 7.1 is pretty straightforward.
18:09:11 [JR]
JR's msg: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006OctDec/0002.html
18:09:45 [JR]
JA: PP should we add ref to APIs under 7.1 references?
18:10:03 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
18:10:15 [JR]
PP: Lots of refs under 7.3
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18:10:43 [JR]
JA: Maybe we need a global appendix of refs to APIs etc...rather than bringing them up time after time
18:10:54 [jallan]
zakim, [IBM] is cklaws
18:10:54 [Zakim]
+cklaws; got it
18:11:09 [JR]
JA: Should we remove Motif?
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PP: No leave for legacy purposes.
18:12:36 [JR]
JA: 7.3 needs ATSPI ref
18:13:14 [JR]
JA: Anything else missing from list ( selection, content focus, and user interface focus) in 7.1 ?
18:15:03 [JR]
CL: there are several types of selection.
18:19:13 [JR]
CL, JA, PP: Selection in browser content is problematic - some browsers don't allow content selection.
18:20:25 [JR]
JA, CL: AT's provide make some selection mechanisms easier.
18:21:06 [JR]
JA: Maybe under related techs we need to ref. 1.1 full keyboard access plus other selection CPs
18:21:49 [JR]
Topic: 7.2 Respect input configuration conventions (P1)
18:23:39 [JR]
JR: One of the example techs seems to undercut the req.
18:24:50 [JR]
CL: Some AT's depart when they use Insert etc.
18:25:09 [JR]
JR: I think this is "extending" in a "respectful" way.
18:25:15 [JR]
CL: Other ways to look at it
18:25:35 [JR]
CL: Have to oveeride keyboard handling of OS
18:26:13 [JR]
JA: Real prob is authoring supplied bindings eg. accesskeys than with AT's
18:27:04 [JR]
JA: We've had fun with one handed keyboards, sticky keys and Jaws.
18:27:32 [JR]
CL: There are definitely challenges.
18:30:05 [JR]
CL: HPR added alt+shift+access key for accesskey
18:31:08 [Zakim]
-Jan_Richards
18:31:13 [jallan]
JR leaves
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scribe: JA
18:32:22 [jallan]
7.2 needs addtional techniques for additional modifiers, pass through, defining keys to avoid conflicts with user interface keys
18:33:13 [jallan]
topic: 7.3 Respect operating environment conventions (P2)
18:36:21 [jallan]
CL: There are some issues between AJAX widgets/controls and High contrast mode and alternate keyboard interfaces (sticky keys)
18:39:04 [jallan]
CL: Note: update Appendix 3.17 http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10-TECHS/uaag10-tech.html#os-accessibility for all operating systems
18:39:29 [jallan]
3.17 is 3.17 Appendix: Accessibility features of some operating systems
18:40:36 [jallan]
update forAccess-X- gnome, kcd; remove DOS, NT4, add new
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add references to related specs
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topic: 7.4 Provide input configuration indications (P2)
18:48:14 [jallan]
CL: if user is allowed to change the keybindings then the documentation is no longer current
18:49:00 [jallan]
PP: there is keybinding change functionality for the OS in gnome,
18:51:32 [jallan]
CL: If user changes keybindings, alert the user that the documentation will no longer be accurate
18:51:58 [jallan]
provide some mechanism for the user to retrieve keybinding information
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new keybinding informatoin, and alter the user of conflicts
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alter=alert
18:53:05 [jallan]
also need ability to reset keybinding to default settings
18:58:08 [Zakim]
-cklaws
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-Jim_Allan
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-parente
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WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Jim_Allan, Jan_Richards, parente, cklaws
18:58:26 [jallan]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/05-ua-minutes.html jallan
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rrsagent, set logs public
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zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items