17:50:51 RRSAgent has joined #ua 17:50:51 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/05/04-ua-irc 17:50:56 list 17:51:11 zakim, list 17:51:12 I see Style_XSL WG()1:00PM, WS_AddrWG(F2F)9:00AM, XML_EXI()1:30PM active 17:51:14 also scheduled at this time is WAI_UAWG()2:00PM 17:51:29 zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG 17:51:29 ok, jallan; I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 9 minutes 17:55:22 Meeting: UAWG teleconference 4 May 2006 17:58:18 WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started 17:58:25 +DPoehlman 17:58:53 +Jim_Allan 18:03:15 +[IBM] 18:03:58 JR has joined #ua 18:04:00 cklaws has joined #ua 18:04:44 +Jan_Richards 18:05:47 Scribe: JR 18:06:17 Agenda+ WCAG 2.0 official last call review conformance section 18:06:34 Agenda+ Review revision 2 UAAG - WCAG correlation table. 18:07:01 Agenda+ Review UAAG references/dependencies on WCAG 1.0 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006AprJun/0010.html) 18:08:13 Agenda+ Any comments from the UAWG on the "Mobile Web Best Practices" Last Call 18:08:29 Agenda+ WebAPI Links 18:08:52 Zakim, take up agendum 1 18:08:52 agendum 1. "WCAG 2.0 official last call review conformance section" taken up [from JR] 18:09:13 JA: My reading of new conformance text is that it is the same as before... 18:09:54 JA: They still say you choose the technologies and you conform assuming that supporting user agents and AT's exist. 18:10:07 JA: Our comment deadline is May 31 18:11:21 CL: Does UAAG say UA needs to conform by itself without AT. 18:11:22 ? 18:11:53 DP: Actually think UA can team up with an AT 18:12:28 CL: We need to update our conformanceref - it mentions WCAG 1.0 18:13:31 JA: A uA can conform to a subset UAAG (e.g. visualtext, etc.) 18:14:17 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/conformance.html#conformance-wcag1 18:19:53 JR: A UAAG v.1.1 could change its conformance scheme to allow the developer to choose to point to WCAG 1.0 or 2.0 - their choice... 18:23:55 specific reference to WCAG 1.0 in UAAG conformance http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-UAAG10-20021217/uaag10.html#conformance-claims 18:23:57 JR: WCAG pointed to in only 2 places in UAAG 18:24:16 JR: Could change is fairly easily in a v1.1 18:25:41 JA: Back to the table... 18:26:25 zikim, close current agendum 18:26:34 zakim, close current agendum 18:26:34 I don't understand 'close current agendum', JR 18:26:47 Zakim, close this item 18:26:47 agendum 1 closed 18:26:48 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 18:26:50 2. Review revision 2 UAAG - WCAG correlation table. [from JR] 18:26:53 WCAG 2.0 understanding baseline http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/baseline/ 18:27:40 CL comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006AprJun/0040.html 18:28:00 CL: noticed inconsistencies in organization 18:30:11 CL: UAAG 9.10 EXTENDS WCAG 2.4.1 18:34:07 CL: UAAG 9.8 Support WCAG 2.4.2 18:36:10 JR: WCAG seems to be assuming the UA has an intra-page text search capability 18:38:21 CL: UAAG 10.6 supports WCAG 2.4.3 18:45:05 JR, JA: UAAG 10.7 EXTENDS WCAG 2.4.7 18:46:07 JA: How should we frame these comments to WCAG?] 18:47:32 JA: this initiall came up in discussion with CMN. 18:47:44 DP: Also this is a gap analysis... 18:48:38 JR: Also CMN saying UA's could do some of the things that WCAG asking of users. 18:50:33 DP: Now WCAG says don't flash, in case uaag we say control flashing...if UA's conformed to UAAG then WCAG wouldn't have to say don't flash... 18:50:47 DP: What are we asking of WCAG... 18:54:20 JR: UAWG soucle say here are WCAG cp (p1), here are the UAAG checkpoints that support these cp. 18:55:09 if you want to claim conformance to wcag cp, then you must have identified a UA that conforms to the UAAG checkpoints 18:57:51 yes, UAAG may be too much, but there is a basic set of functionalities assumed/required by WCAG in a useragent 18:58:16 and these set of functionalities must/should conform to UAAG 18:59:37 JA: Next step is to cross reference list with reports 19:00:25 to see if user agents are already meeting them. 19:00:34 action: Jim, cross reference the table with the conformance reports 19:01:26 JR: its important not just that a uaag checkpoint be on the list but that it be associated with the highest wcag priority 19:05:40 JA: 4.5 maybe should be added for 2.2.2 19:08:12 -[IBM] 19:08:14 -DPoehlman 19:08:39 action JR: Take updated alignment page from JA and re-org to show Priority view from WCAG 19:16:53 -Jan_Richards 19:16:54 -Jim_Allan 19:16:55 WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended 19:16:56 Attendees were DPoehlman, Jim_Allan, [IBM], Jan_Richards 19:22:13 RRSAgent, make minutes 19:22:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/05/04-ua-minutes.html JR 19:22:25 RRSAgent, set logs public 19:23:11 Zakim, bye 19:23:11 Zakim has left #ua 19:23:14 RRSAgent, Bye 19:23:14 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/04-ua-actions.rdf : 19:23:14 ACTION: Jim, cross reference the table with the conformance reports [1] 19:23:14 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/04-ua-irc#T19-00-34 19:23:14 ACTION: JR to Take updated alignment page from JA and re-org to show Priority view from WCAG [2] 19:23:14 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/04-ua-irc#T19-08-39