Edit comment LC-1649 for Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group

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Comment LC-1649

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Commenter: Raymond Sonoff <subscriber@sonoffconsulting.com>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeW3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents 1 Introduction 1.1 Levels of mobileOK 1.1.1 mobileOK Basic 1.1.2 mobileOK 1.1.3 Out of Scope 1.1.4 Beyond mobileOK 1.2 Applicability 1.3 Claiming mobileOK conformance 2 Conformance 2.1 Validity of the Tests 2.2 Testing Outcomes 2.3 Conduct of Tests 2.3.1 Order of Tests 2.3.2 HTTP Request 2.3.3 HTTP Response 2.3.4 CSS Style 2.3.5 Included Resources 2.3.6 Included Stylesheet Resources 2.3.7 Visible Linked Resources 3 mobileOK Basic Tests 3.1 AUTO_REFRESH (partial) and REDIRECTION 3.2 CACHING 3.3 CHARACTER_ENCODING_SUPPORT and CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE 3.4 CONTENT_FORMAT_SUPPORT 3.5 DEFAULT_INPUT_MODE 3.6 EXTERNAL_RESOURCES 3.7 GRAPHICS_FOR_SPACING 3.8 IMAGE_MAPS 3.9 IMAGES_RESIZING and IMAGES_SPECIFY_SIZE 3.10 LINK_TARGET_FORMAT 3.11 MEASURES 3.12 MINIMIZE 3.13 NO_FRAMES 3.14 NON-TEXT_ALTERNATIVES (partial) 3.15 OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT (partial) 3.16 PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT 3.17 PAGE_TITLE (partial) 3.18 POP_UPS 3.19 PROVIDE_DEFAULTS (partial) 3.20 SCROLLING (partial) 3.21 STYLE_SHEETS_SUPPORT (partial) 3.22 STYLE_SHEETS_USE 3.23 TABLES_ALTERNATIVES 3.24 TABLES_LAYOUT (partial) 3.25 TABLES_NESTED 3.26 VALID_MARKUP A Acknowledgements (Non-Normative) B References (Non-Normative) C Best Practices' Relation to mobileOK Tests (Non-Normative)
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Comment:

1. Increase the Page Limits from 10K for markup to at least 20K (preferably
40K), along with a commensurate increase for the total Page Limit to at
least 40K.

1. I wish to provide more than a token amount of content to anyone who
accesses any Web site that I develop, refine, and make available to
visitors, users, clients, prospects, or customers to those Web sites.
Providing alternative text, title text, and wanting to offer two Cascading
Style Sheets (one for the screen; the second, for print-related operations
-- as are currently exemplified for all Web pages in the
sonoffconsulting.com domain), the current upper limits are overly
restrictive and something has to be sacrificed (unnecessarily, I feel) to
pass that test element. QUESTION: Why not allow for the multi-CSS
stylesheets to allow for "intelligent word-wrapped" printing as a Web Best
Practice for everyone to incorporate into their Web site designs?

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WG Notes: Feedback to commenter: Your assumptions are not quite on target. Yes, and adopt text: "If the Internet media type is "text/css" and the content is not CSS that conforms to the grammar specified in Appendix B (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1#appendix-b) of CSS Level 1 FAIL" - note also that we intend to clarify what we mean by Valid in general

Resolution: Stylesheets that are not targeted at mobile are not included in the total byte count. We will clarify the text at 2.3.5 and 2.36 to this effect. In respect of the upper limit of 10KB, this applies only to the DDC, if you are delivering to non-mobile devices then a higher limit may be appropriate.

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