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15:33:30 <ColonelSmith> NICK ChristopheS
15:33:57 <Zakim> +Judy
15:37:39 <Zakim> -Judy
15:37:49 <Zakim> +John_Slatin
15:38:00 <Zakim> +Judy
15:38:16 <ben> :q
15:39:08 <shadi> meeting: ERT / WCAG WG coordination on testing
15:39:13 <shadi> chair: Judy
15:39:21 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
15:39:49 <shadi> judy: BenToWeb project working on test suite for WCAG 2.0
15:41:25 <shadi> judy: Carlos Velsaco (project leader) and Christophe Strobbe (deliverable leader) are interesting in aligning tests with WCAG WG developments
15:42:04 <shadi> judy: current proposal is to set up a joint ERT - WCAG Task Force with co-facilitators from both groups
15:44:27 <shadi> judy: focus for today's meeting is a quick "hello" to start coordination
15:44:40 <shadi> judy: any comments or additions?
15:45:53 <shadi> carlos: there could be multiple tests per success critieria
15:46:19 <shadi> carlos: there is (machine readable) description for each test
15:46:50 <shadi> carlos: in a "Test Case Description Language" (XML) that we want to make available to W3C
15:47:27 <shadi> christophe: test suite is also to benchmark evaluation tools
15:47:52 <shadi> carlos: not limited to fully automated evaluation tools
15:49:35 <shadi> john: there isn't a 1-1 mapping from these tests to the techniques sections of WCAG 2.0?
15:50:46 <shadi> carlos: currently they target the success criteria directly
15:51:03 <shadi> carlos: because they are based on the June WD of WCAG 2.0
15:51:54 <shadi> judy: but you are interested in aligning to future revisions and mapping to techniques sections?
15:52:13 <shadi> carlos: yes, but this is still work i progress and sometimes not very stable
15:54:50 <shadi> ben: there is an "and / or" approach in the techniques. do these tests cover this model?
15:55:41 <ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:55:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Christophe, Ben, Cvelasco (muted), John_Slatin, Judy
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15:56:07 <shadi> christophe: currently "OR" relation ships are not implemented
15:56:12 <judy> zakim, who's here?
15:56:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Christophe, Ben, Cvelasco (muted), John_Slatin, Judy
15:56:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see judy, RRSAgent, ChristopheS, ben, Zakim, shadi
15:56:32 <shadi> http://www.bentoweb.org/ts/home
16:06:21 <Zakim> -Judy
16:08:23 <Zakim> -Shadi
16:08:25 <Zakim> -Cvelasco
16:08:27 <Zakim> -Christophe
16:09:35 <shadi> action: john & ben select a technqiue that highlights a good use case for testing requirements and send to the group
16:10:27 <shadi> action: carlos & john coordinate a meeting time for early next week to have another short discussion on the next steps needed
16:10:48 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
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16:10:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/24-wai-wcag-minutes.html shadi
16:10:54 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
16:11:01 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
16:11:01 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/24-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
16:11:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: john & ben select a technqiue that highlights a good use case for testing requirements and send to the group [1]
16:11:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/24-wai-wcag-irc#T16-09-35
16:11:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: carlos & john coordinate a meeting time for early next week to have another short discussion on the next steps needed [2]
16:11:01 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/24-wai-wcag-irc#T16-10-27