IRC log of wcag-teamc on 2006-01-16

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22:57:42 [Michael]
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22:58:07 [Michael]
meeting: WCAG Team C 16 January 2006
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chair: Michael Cooper
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scribe: Michael
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teamc/2006Jan/0035.html
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Hi Michael
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hi Andi
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rrsagent, off
23:04:40 [Michael]
zakim, who's here?
23:04:40 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, [IPcaller], Tim_Boland
23:04:42 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Sofia, Makoto, Andi, RRSAgent, Zakim, Michael
23:05:02 [Michael]
zakim, [IP is Makoto_Ueki
23:05:04 [Zakim]
+Makoto_Ueki; got it
23:07:17 [Michael]
topic: issues for guidelines 2.2, 2.5, 4.2 <http://tinyurl.com/7o7s9>
23:10:21 [Michael]
1108 - agree needs clarification, TTF please do!
23:15:20 [Michael]
1110: suggest general technique about when refresh important and permitted - don't want to forbid e.g., status update functionality
23:15:52 [Andi]
scribe: Andi
23:22:14 [Andi]
1243: Recommend considering technique submitted by Sofia http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Using_script_to_deactivate_blinking_content
23:23:49 [Andi]
1249: Agree with comments in issue. No changes necessary.
23:25:00 [Andi]
1251: dup of 1243
23:26:16 [Andi]
1243: Also consider technique documented in the issue
23:29:33 [Andi]
1274: OBE - no longer have SC having to do with following specifications.
23:31:11 [Andi]
1819: reject - it's a good idea to define a standard way for users to disable blinking but this is out of scope for WCAG.
23:36:53 [Andi]
1884: from security perspective, always require server-side validation. From accessibility perspective, though, requiring ssv is out of scope. It is a good idea to have server side validation techniques though so we recommend adding one. Client side or server side validation should be sufficient depending on the baseline.
23:42:15 [Andi]
1885: Recommend adding as an optional technique
23:44:48 [Andi]
1886: reject - the best way to identify errors could depend on context. We've done what we think we should in the SC and don't recommend any additional standardization.
23:47:50 [Andi]
1887: disagree with 1st paragraph - if provide error notification in an accessible way as errors occur, this could really benefit people with disabilities
23:48:33 [Andi]
1887: disagree with 2nd paragraphy - links to fields in errors is a good idea but should not be forced upon all forms
23:50:06 [Andi]
1887: also recommend rejecting suggestion in 3rd paragraph - doesn't fit the SC.
23:53:32 [Andi]
1889: reject - 2.5.1 does not require providing suggestions to correct the error. That's the fundamental difference between 2.5.2 and 2.5.1.
00:02:50 [Andi]
1890: investigate further - if popup window is a change of context, then remove the techniques. But if it is not a change of context, this should be allowed as it is similar to popups for logging in.
00:04:38 [Andi]
would be good if team members could look through wiki for 2.1, 2.2, 2.5, and 4.2 inserting notes if appropriate or starting a discussion on the mailing list.
00:05:03 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
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-Sofia_Celic
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-Makoto_Ueki
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-Andi_Snow_Weaver
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-Michael_Cooper
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WAI_WCAG()6:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, [IPcaller], Tim_Boland, Makoto_Ueki
00:05:27 [Michael]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/16-wcag-teamc-minutes.html Michael
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meeting: WCAG Team C teleconference
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zakim, bye
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00:11:55 [Michael]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/16-wcag-teamc-minutes.html Michael
00:13:38 [Michael]
rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items