IRC log of wcag-teamc on 2006-01-16
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- 22:57:42 [Michael]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 22:58:07 [Michael]
- meeting: WCAG Team C 16 January 2006
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- chair: Michael Cooper
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- scribe: Michael
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teamc/2006Jan/0035.html
- 22:58:54 [Andi]
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- Hi Michael
- 22:59:57 [Michael]
- hi Andi
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- rrsagent, off
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- zakim, who's here?
- 23:04:40 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, [IPcaller], Tim_Boland
- 23:04:42 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Sofia, Makoto, Andi, RRSAgent, Zakim, Michael
- 23:05:02 [Michael]
- zakim, [IP is Makoto_Ueki
- 23:05:04 [Zakim]
- +Makoto_Ueki; got it
- 23:07:17 [Michael]
- topic: issues for guidelines 2.2, 2.5, 4.2 <http://tinyurl.com/7o7s9>
- 23:10:21 [Michael]
- 1108 - agree needs clarification, TTF please do!
- 23:15:20 [Michael]
- 1110: suggest general technique about when refresh important and permitted - don't want to forbid e.g., status update functionality
- 23:15:52 [Andi]
- scribe: Andi
- 23:22:14 [Andi]
- 1243: Recommend considering technique submitted by Sofia http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Using_script_to_deactivate_blinking_content
- 23:23:49 [Andi]
- 1249: Agree with comments in issue. No changes necessary.
- 23:25:00 [Andi]
- 1251: dup of 1243
- 23:26:16 [Andi]
- 1243: Also consider technique documented in the issue
- 23:29:33 [Andi]
- 1274: OBE - no longer have SC having to do with following specifications.
- 23:31:11 [Andi]
- 1819: reject - it's a good idea to define a standard way for users to disable blinking but this is out of scope for WCAG.
- 23:36:53 [Andi]
- 1884: from security perspective, always require server-side validation. From accessibility perspective, though, requiring ssv is out of scope. It is a good idea to have server side validation techniques though so we recommend adding one. Client side or server side validation should be sufficient depending on the baseline.
- 23:42:15 [Andi]
- 1885: Recommend adding as an optional technique
- 23:44:48 [Andi]
- 1886: reject - the best way to identify errors could depend on context. We've done what we think we should in the SC and don't recommend any additional standardization.
- 23:47:50 [Andi]
- 1887: disagree with 1st paragraph - if provide error notification in an accessible way as errors occur, this could really benefit people with disabilities
- 23:48:33 [Andi]
- 1887: disagree with 2nd paragraphy - links to fields in errors is a good idea but should not be forced upon all forms
- 23:50:06 [Andi]
- 1887: also recommend rejecting suggestion in 3rd paragraph - doesn't fit the SC.
- 23:53:32 [Andi]
- 1889: reject - 2.5.1 does not require providing suggestions to correct the error. That's the fundamental difference between 2.5.2 and 2.5.1.
- 00:02:50 [Andi]
- 1890: investigate further - if popup window is a change of context, then remove the techniques. But if it is not a change of context, this should be allowed as it is similar to popups for logging in.
- 00:04:38 [Andi]
- would be good if team members could look through wiki for 2.1, 2.2, 2.5, and 4.2 inserting notes if appropriate or starting a discussion on the mailing list.
- 00:05:03 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Makoto_Ueki
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- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- WAI_WCAG()6:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, [IPcaller], Tim_Boland, Makoto_Ueki
- 00:05:27 [Michael]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/16-wcag-teamc-minutes.html Michael
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- meeting: WCAG Team C teleconference
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- zakim, bye
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- 00:11:55 [Michael]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/16-wcag-teamc-minutes.html Michael
- 00:13:38 [Michael]
- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items