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14:00:23 <Michael> chair: Michael Cooper
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14:00:38 <Michael> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0448.html
14:00:41 <Michael> meeting: WCAG Techniques 17 August 2005
14:01:26 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
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14:01:47 <Michael> zakim, Microsoft is Rob_Haverty
14:01:47 <Zakim> +Rob_Haverty; got it
14:01:55 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
14:02:19 <Michael> agenda+ Script proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0345.html
14:02:43 <Zakim> +??P13
14:02:47 <ben> zakim, ??P13 is Ben
14:02:55 <Zakim> +Ben; got it
14:02:59 <Michael> agenda+	More test case reviews http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0388.html, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0397.html, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0399.html
14:03:16 <Michael> agenda+ Hotkey requirements http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0396.html
14:03:34 <Zakim> +Don_Evans
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14:05:01 <wendy> zakim, drop wendy
14:05:06 <Zakim> Wendy is being disconnected
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14:05:14 <Zakim> +Becky_Gibson
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14:06:36 <DonFEvans> howdy
14:06:38 <DonFEvans> woowoo
14:07:23 <Michael> zakim, take up item 1
14:07:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Script proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0345.html" taken up [from Michael]
14:07:32 <Al> Wendy, would you get Zakim to call me when the 'hotkey requirements' agenda item is coming up?
14:07:41 <wendy> sure
14:08:40 <ben> zakim, I am Ben
14:08:40 <Zakim> ok, ben, I now associate you with Ben
14:08:44 <ben> scribe: ben
14:16:48 <ben> issue: how/where to include technology version information?
14:19:24 <ben> actiong becky: propose introduction text for javascript techniques that described default level of JavaScript for examples
14:19:40 <ben> s/actiong/action
14:20:05 <ben> action: becky propose introduction text for javascript techniques that described default level of JavaScript for examples
14:23:49 <Zakim> -Don_Evans
14:25:28 <ben> resolution: use proposed "baseline implications" from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/att-0345/preventAlerts.html as a model for including baseline information
14:26:31 <ben> action: becky to include technique for preventing non-essential interruptions in next script techniques draft
14:28:08 <ben> resolution: include proposed  technique for preventing non-essential interruptions in next script techniques draft
14:30:20 <ben> action: becky to determine what the relationship between DOM level and JavaScript version is
14:30:40 <ben> zakim, next agendum
14:30:40 <Zakim> agendum 2. "More test case reviews http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0388.html, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0397.html,
14:30:43 <Zakim> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0399.html" taken up [from Michael]
14:34:12 <Zakim> +Don_Evans
14:35:37 <ben> discussing tests 111, 112, 113, 203 and 114 - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0388.html
14:39:37 <ben> q+
14:44:42 <ben> q-
14:49:27 <ben> cr: propose combining tests 111 and 151 into "All data tables have a summary or caption"
14:53:35 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#edef_tables_summary
14:55:21 <wendy> For tables, visual user agents allow sighted people to quickly grasp the structure of the table from the headings as well as the caption. A consequence of this is that captions will often be inadequate as a summary of the purpose and structure of the table from the perspective of people relying on non-visual user agents.
14:55:47 <wendy> (from - http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-tables.html#sec_29.1.)
15:16:13 <ben> issue: how do test cases relate to conformance? (seems to be a stubmling block for discussion of tests)
15:16:28 <ben> s/stubmling/stumbling
15:16:33 <Christophe> q+
15:18:34 <Michael> ack christophe
15:21:26 <ben> action: michael and wendy to raise issue of how tests relate to conformance w/ editors group 
15:24:37 <wendy> zakim, call al
15:24:37 <Zakim> I am sorry, wendy; I do not know a number for al
15:24:49 <Al> Zakim, call AlGilman-home
15:24:49 <Zakim> ok, Al; the call is being made
15:24:51 <Zakim> +AlGilman
15:24:59 <Michael> zakim, next item
15:24:59 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Hotkey requirements http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0396.html" taken up [from Michael]
15:25:00 <ben> resolution: 06 data tables require summary or caption which describes nature fo table; use this instead of headers01 (title would not be a recommended strategy)
15:25:16 <ben> action: chris summarize today's discussion tests wrt caption and summary on list
15:25:25 <ben> zakim, next agendum
15:25:25 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, ben
15:26:23 <ben> (note that previous resolution and action relate to previous agendum)
15:38:32 <Zakim> -Rob_Haverty
15:54:13 <Zakim> -AlGilman
15:54:18 <ben> action: wendy to check w/ chairs on this and consider raising on the list
15:54:37 <ben> agenda?
15:54:59 <ben> zakim, close agendum 3
15:54:59 <Zakim> agendum 3, Hotkey requirements http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0396.html, closed
15:55:02 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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15:59:22 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:59:24 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
15:59:25 <Zakim> -Don_Evans
15:59:26 <Zakim> -Wendy
15:59:27 <Zakim> -Ben
15:59:28 <Zakim> -Chris_Ridpath
15:59:30 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
15:59:31 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has ended
15:59:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Rob_Haverty, Christophe_Strobbe, Ben, Don_Evans, Wendy, Becky_Gibson, Chris_Ridpath, AlGilman
15:59:34 <ben> RRSAgent, make log world
15:59:43 <ben> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:59:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html ben
16:01:26 <ben> RRSAgent, bye
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: becky propose introduction text for javascript techniques that described default level of JavaScript for examples [1]
16:01:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T14-20-05
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: becky to include technique for preventing non-essential interruptions in next script techniques draft [2]
16:01:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T14-26-31
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: becky to determine what the relationship between DOM level and JavaScript version is [3]
16:01:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T14-30-20
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: michael and wendy to raise issue of how tests relate to conformance w/ editors group  [4]
16:01:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-21-26
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: chris summarize today's discussion tests wrt caption and summary on list [5]
16:01:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-25-16
16:01:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: wendy to check w/ chairs on this and consider raising on the list [6]
16:01:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-54-18
16:01:34 <ben> zakim, bye
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