IRC log of ws-cg on 2002-05-28
- [hugo]
- Zakim, who is here?
- [Zakim]
- I see Jonathan, Fallside, Hugo
- [chris]
- joining presently
- [DavidF]
- agenda:
- 1. Aciot items
- [chris]
- s/aciot/action/
- [hugo]
- agenda+ Action items
- [DavidF]
- 1. Action items
- agenda+ CG report
- agenda+ Progress on new WG charters
- [Marsh]
- agenda+ joint session at Paris FTF?
- [hugo]
- agenda+ MEP coordination
- agenda+ WS/SW discussions in WSAWG
- [DavidF]
- em ru calling
- [em]
- hmm...
- [hugo]
- em, we got your voicemail :)
- [em]
- arrg...
- [hugo]
- Zakim, what is the agenda?
- [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
- 1. Action items [from hugo]
- 2. CG report [from DavidF]
- 3. Progress on new WG charters [from DavidF]
- 4. joint session at Paris FTF? [from Marsh]
- 5. MEP coordination [from hugo]
- 6. WS/SW discussions in WSAWG [from hugo]
- [hugo]
- -----
- 1. Action items [from hugo]
- [em]
- whew..
- [hugo]
- Minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2002May/0002.html
- ACTION: Eric to have RDF-core, WebOnt, and? review SOAP Data
Model, determine initial assessment as to whether it is 2" or 2mi
apart from their DLG model and give feedback [CONTINUED]
- EM: currently: mixed opinions
- ... do people want to see snapshots of this assessment?
- ... I don't see the group making a last minute request for huge
changes
- ... I will collect and merge comments
- ... taking longer than expected
- DF: estimated date?
- EM: hopefully ready by next meeting
- ... can we envision a workshop or joint meeting after LC in
order to go from 2" to 0"?
- ... our comments don't guarantee any change in your spec
- DF: hard to know without seeing the comments
- EM: we will have a problem if we are 2" away, not if we are 2mi
away
- [ for conciliation purposes ]
- DF: because of the lack of a GET mapping, we will be several
weeks late for LC
- ACTION: DavidF to investigate charter writing [PENDING]
- -----
- 2. CG report [from DavidF]
- Not much to report
- [DavidF]
- s/DavidF/ChrisF/
- [hugo]
- CF: Schema will review WSDWG reqs after republication
- -----
- 3. Progress on new WG charters [from DavidF]
- [DavidF]
- s/DavidF/ChrisF/
- [hugo]
- CF: We continued discussion
- ... the WG needs to put things together and start the
architecture document
- [DavidF]
- issue of how complete does the Arch need to be before new WGs
can be started?
- [hugo]
- ... discussion: how complete the architecture document need to
be to take some initial decisions?
- ... current plan: get a draft proposal by end of July
- ... discussions: security, reliable messaging, some sort of
choreography
- [DavidF]
- ... likely new WG priority ordering: security (1),
choreography/routing (3), reliability (2)
- [hugo]
- JM: is the CG the right place to write a charter?
- DF: WSAWG should come up with scope
- CF: we need to know what we are expecting from WSAWG
- ... reqs and scoping
- HH: difficult to know when we can say we have a good enough
view; we will have to draw the line at some point
- CF: 2 points oy views: people who think that it will take 6
weeks, others think that it will take 9 months
- [DavidF]
- ... DF: one way to answer question is to write the arch doc at
the level necessary to write charters
- .... and then the question is reduced to how many
sections/areas does it need to address to be coherent as a
whole
- [em]
- time check, please
- [hugo]
- Summarry:
- Come up with an architecture which is at the same level as a
charter looks like a good idea.
- s/Come/Coming/
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- Next call: Tue 4 June
- Remaining agenda:
- Zakim, what is the agenda?
- [Zakim]
- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
- 4. joint session at Paris FTF? [from Marsh]
- 5. MEP coordination [from hugo]
- 6. WS/SW discussions in WSAWG [from hugo]
- [hugo]
- Zakim, please excuse us
- RRSAgent, what actions?
- [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 action items:
- ACTION: Eric to have RDF-core, WebOnt, and? review SOAP Data
Model, determine initial assessment as to whether it is 2" or 2mi
apart from their DLG model and give feedback [CONTINUED] [1]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/05/28-ws-cg-irc#T17-12-47
- ACTION: DavidF to investigate charter writing [PENDING]
[2]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/05/28-ws-cg-irc#T17-34-09
- [hugo]
- RRSAgent, please excuse us