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Results of Questionnaire Joint AGWG Silver Meeting Approach

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This questionnaire was open from 2020-04-08 to 2020-04-17.

17 answers have been received.

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  1. Proposed Meeting Approaches

1. Proposed Meeting Approaches

Please review the options below and let us know your opinion of each.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
NoYes, but prefer notYesYes, and prefer
Continue with one AG meeting and two current Silver meetings on Tuesday and Friday but start dividing the AG meeting into 1 hour on Silver and 1 hour AG. (This is essentially no change from the current plan) 8 3 6
Extend the AG meeting to 2.5 hours and keep two currently Silver meetings on Tuesday and Friday. Divide the AG meeting into 1 hour Silver and 1.5 hours on 2.2. 7 3 3 4
Keep the current Silver meeting times but designate either the Tuesday or Friday meeting as a joint meeting. 4 5 4 4
Move the Tuesday Silver meeting time to be easier for AG attendance and designate it as a joint meeting. 3 2 8 4
Move the Friday Silver meeting time to be easier for AG attendance and designate it as a joint meeting. 4 3 9 1

Ranking of choices in order of least unacceptable/most prefered:

RanksAll responders:
1Move the Tuesday Silver meeting time to be easier for AG attendance and designate it as a joint meeting.
2Move the Friday Silver meeting time to be easier for AG attendance and designate it as a joint meeting.
3Keep the current Silver meeting times but designate either the Tuesday or Friday meeting as a joint meeting.
4Extend the AG meeting to 2.5 hours and keep two currently Silver meetings on Tuesday and Friday. Divide the AG meeting into 1 hour Silver and 1.5 hours on 2.2.
5Continue with one AG meeting and two current Silver meetings on Tuesday and Friday but start dividing the AG meeting into 1 hour on Silver and 1 hour AG. (This is essentially no change from the current plan)

Details

Responder Continue with one AG meeting and two current Silver meetings on Tuesday and Friday but start dividing the AG meeting into 1 hour on Silver and 1 hour AG. (This is essentially no change from the current plan)Extend the AG meeting to 2.5 hours and keep two currently Silver meetings on Tuesday and Friday. Divide the AG meeting into 1 hour Silver and 1.5 hours on 2.2.Keep the current Silver meeting times but designate either the Tuesday or Friday meeting as a joint meeting.Move the Tuesday Silver meeting time to be easier for AG attendance and designate it as a joint meeting.Move the Friday Silver meeting time to be easier for AG attendance and designate it as a joint meeting. Comments
Rachael Bradley Montgomery Yes, but prefer not No Yes Yes, and prefer Yes
Charles Adams No No Yes, but prefer not Yes, and prefer Yes
Brooks Newton Yes No Yes, and prefer No No
Katie Haritos-Shea Yes Yes, and prefer Yes Yes Yes
Angela Hooker Yes Yes Yes, and prefer Yes Yes
Chris Loiselle No No No Yes, and prefer No Preference for silver meetings is to have one meeting instead of two, on Tuesdays per discussions on calls related to that topic. Friday meeting time still works for me, however adjusting it to earlier on Friday (ET) is fine with me. I can't meet later that 2-3pm.
David Fazio No Yes, but prefer not No Yes Yes My concern is getting pushback from the Community Group if we fully integrate Silver meetings into AGWG meetings because they're closed to the public
Charles Hall No No Yes, but prefer not Yes No Meetings over 90 minutes are a challenge. Consecutive meetings with 15 or fewer minutes between them are a challenge. My general preference and ideal availability is 1 Silver meeting and 1 AGWG meeting per week on different days.
Kim Dirks Yes Yes Yes, but prefer not No Yes Moving the Friday meeting is something my schedule can accomodate, but Tuesday is the only morning I have time available for the Silver meeting (the time we have now), so I would not like to lose that time spot.

The Silver group is doing a lot of work - I'm a little concerned that designating an existing Silver meeting as joint could stall our progress. It might be ok to do that after FPWD of both Silver and WCAG 2.2. I'm for merging, but the timing is going to be important. (to explain my response to the 3rd question)

**Critical issue, Silver includes the Community Group and those individuals must not be excluded for any joint meetings with Silver and larger AG meetings.
John Foliot No Yes, but prefer not No Yes, but prefer not Yes, but prefer not All of these options are demanding a minimum of 4 hours a week to be able to be present for all AGWG discussions, with one option increasing that to 4.5 hours.

Where is the option that **reduces** the overall amount of time being asked of participants? I believe that one of our ongoing issues is that too many decisions are being made by too few members, because there are so many meetings each week, and that we then end up retreading things over and over again within a larger group, which is a duplication of effort and time. The goal here should be to make it easier to be present for all discussion, and not to simply move the deck-chairs around a bit which all of these proposals accomplish,.

Deque's preference would be to merge the Tuesday meetings into 2.5 hours (i.e. Tuesdays 10:30-13:00 Boston Time), with an additional 1 hour on Friday for a total of 3.5 hours a week - which is still a lot to ask of many, but a bit more manageable over a longer period of time (i.e. until 2.2 is published). Both meetings would be (should be, and likely already are, per our charter) open to all WG members, and so the Friday meeting should also - if not already - be open to all (i.e. remove any distinction between "Silver TF" and AGWG going forward, by making everything simply different topics within the AGWG).
Deque believes the TF "incubation" period is nearing its end, and ultimately we'd like to see the "TF" designation and separate structure disappear completely in favor of one cohesive group.
Laura Carlson Yes Yes, and prefer Yes Yes Yes
Shawn Lauriat No No Yes Yes Yes We'll need to make sure that all Silver meetings can continue to include Community Group members.

Also: I don't expect splitting a long meeting would work well, as discussions tend to run into all available space and I wouldn't want either topic to repeatedly have to wait to start as people wrap up last thoughts.
Jake Abma Yes Yes, and prefer Yes, but prefer not No Yes, and prefer Would like to see the Friday meeting earlier, now it's 20:00 Europe time, 3 to 4 hours earlier would be better
Alastair Campbell No No Yes, but prefer not Yes, and prefer Yes, but prefer not AG has a 2 hour call, Silver TF has (I think?) 3 hours of calls.
My aim with my answers was to aim for no more total hours of calls, but making 1 of the 3 Silver calls a joint call.

I think it helps to have a late meeting to accommodate people in the east, I don't mind if that is Friday or another day.
John Kirkwood Yes, but prefer not Yes Yes, and prefer Yes Yes
Bruce Bailey Yes, but prefer not Yes, but prefer not Yes, and prefer Yes, but prefer not Yes, but prefer not
Andrew Kirkpatrick No Yes, and prefer No Yes No

More details on responses

  • Rachael Bradley Montgomery: last responded on 8, April 2020 at 21:21 (UTC)
  • Charles Adams: last responded on 8, April 2020 at 21:27 (UTC)
  • Brooks Newton: last responded on 9, April 2020 at 21:30 (UTC)
  • Katie Haritos-Shea: last responded on 9, April 2020 at 21:54 (UTC)
  • Angela Hooker: last responded on 10, April 2020 at 05:41 (UTC)
  • Chris Loiselle: last responded on 10, April 2020 at 11:28 (UTC)
  • David Fazio: last responded on 10, April 2020 at 18:11 (UTC)
  • Charles Hall: last responded on 10, April 2020 at 18:13 (UTC)
  • Kim Dirks: last responded on 10, April 2020 at 18:15 (UTC)
  • John Foliot: last responded on 10, April 2020 at 20:56 (UTC)
  • Laura Carlson: last responded on 11, April 2020 at 19:32 (UTC)
  • Shawn Lauriat: last responded on 13, April 2020 at 13:59 (UTC)
  • Jake Abma: last responded on 14, April 2020 at 09:41 (UTC)
  • Alastair Campbell: last responded on 14, April 2020 at 13:01 (UTC)
  • John Kirkwood: last responded on 14, April 2020 at 13:54 (UTC)
  • Bruce Bailey: last responded on 14, April 2020 at 15:18 (UTC)
  • Andrew Kirkpatrick: last responded on 14, April 2020 at 15:19 (UTC)

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