QAWG Last Call Issues

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Summary List of Outstanding Last Call Issues

num Status Spec Topic Class Date Title
LC-71 Active IntroGuide IntroGuide Substantive 2003-03-15 Collected substantive & editorial comments
LC-68 Active IntroGuide IntroGuide Editorial 2003-03-14 Intro draft
LC-69 Active IntroGuide IntroGuide Editorial 2003-03-15 Several comments on various parts of Introduction
LC-3 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-02-23 Committment Table and its CPs
LC-43 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-03-12 OpsGL Appendix 1 - Process Document Template
LC-57 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-03-12 GL and timeline of a document
LC-58 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-03-12 Process Document requirement is too specific
LC-60 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-03-14 Structure/Organization of Guidelines
LC-70 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-03-15 Checklist format issue
LC-72 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Substantive 2003-03-15 Collected substantive & editorial comments
LC-59 Active OpsGuide OpsGuide Editorial 2003-03-12 Testability concerns
LC-1 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-02-28 require a "Security Considerations" section
LC-5 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 Ck 2.2 list of classes
LC-8 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 checkpoint 1.1
LC-9 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 INTRODUCTION section 1.1, second bullet
LC-11 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CK 2.3 Category of object: clarification
LC-13 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 Section 3.3 Conformance and TAs
LC-15 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 extensions
LC-16 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 8.4 clarify conformance requirement
LC-17 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 7.1 deprecated features
LC-18 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 GL 5 non-hierarchiacal modules
LC-19 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 4.4 explanation clarification
LC-21 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 2.4 - relationships of DOV - clarify
LC-23 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 1.4 vague
LC-28 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 document organization suggestions
LC-29 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 questions and suggestions
LC-30 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 Profile, module, level
LC-37 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 9.3
LC-38 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 9.1 and 9.2 combine
LC-39 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 8.4 policies for discretionary choices
LC-40 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 GL7 add obsolete features
LC-41 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-11 CP 4.4 derived profile
LC-55 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-13 Accessibility
LC-56 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-13 Accessibility
LC-61 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-14 document product class
LC-66 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-14 edition and version DoVs
LC-67 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-14 limits of RFC 2119 key words
LC-73 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-15 Collected substantive & editorial comments
LC-74 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Substantive 2003-03-15 Simplify & consolidate the guidelines of SpecGL
LC-4 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-02-19 no definition for unconditional conformance
LC-2 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-02-25 Grammatical error in Scope
LC-6 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Guideline 2, typo
LC-7 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Checkpoint 1.2
LC-10 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Section 7
LC-12 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 section 3.4 Conformance definition
LC-14 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 CP 14.1 - clarify conformance requirement
LC-20 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 CP 3.1 Conformance Requirements - clarify
LC-22 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 CP 2.3 placement of Checkpoint
LC-24 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Introduction, Sect 1.4
LC-25 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Introduction: scope and goals
LC-26 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Multiple CPs - It is not applicable
LC-27 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Typos, grammar, etc.
LC-31 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 general
LC-32 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 4. Definitions
LC-33 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 4. Definitions
LC-34 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Section 3.4 Conformance definition
LC-35 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Section 3.2 Extensibility
LC-36 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 Section 3.1 Normative sections
LC-42 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-11 GL3: contradiction? regarding examples
LC-44 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Grammatical errors
LC-45 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Design goal of guidelines
LC-46 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Ambiguity
LC-47 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Spelling error in Example and Techniques
LC-48 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Categories of object not previously clearly defined
LC-49 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Complexity in explanation
LC-50 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Ambiguity or error?
LC-51 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 GLs 4, 5 and 6
LC-52 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 NOT ?
LC-53 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 Ambiguity
LC-54 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-13 GLs 3, 10, 11, 12 and 13
LC-62 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-14 typos
LC-63 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-14 Table of Contents
LC-64 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-14 conformance terms
LC-65 Active SpecGuide SpecGuide Editorial 2003-03-14 sentences and paragraphs (section 3.1)

Detailed List of Last Call Issues

num Spec Date Topic Class Status Raised By Owner
LC-1 SpecGuide 2003-02-28 SpecGuide Substantive Active Alex Rousskov Lynne Rosenthal
Title: require a "Security Considerations" section
Description: comment about "Overall" :

Any spec SHOULD have a Security Consideration section. Protocol or behavioral specs MUST have a Security Consideration section.

Security sections make spec authors think about potential vulnerabilities and address at least some of them before the bad guys can exploit them. These sections are also a great place to warn implementors and users about most security-sensitive areas of the spec and, perhaps, common exploits.

IETF's Internet Architecture Board has published the following Internet Draft that may be of use to SpecGL authors: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-sec-cons-03.txt

Proposal: Require "Security Considerations" sections just like we already require conformance sections.
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LC-2 SpecGuide 2003-02-25 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Grammatical error in Scope
Description: comment about "Abstract, Status,..." : "Section 3 defines explains how to make conformance claims that W3C TRs satisfy the requirements of section 2. It defines conformance for this document"

It seems as if either 'defines' or 'explains' is meant, not both. The first sentence is grammatically incorrect, thus the intended meaning is unclear. The second sentence might seem superfluous, depending on the intended meaning of the first.

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LC-3 OpsGuide 2003-02-23 OpsGuide Substantive Active lynne rosenthal Lofton Henderson
Title: Committment Table and its CPs
Description: comment about "Guideline 1: Integrate Quality Assurance into Working Group activities." :

Remove the Committment Table and CP1.1, 1.2, 1.3. These items do not add information and are redundant. To satisfy Level 3 (5 or 7), you must satisfy other checkpoints in the OpsGL. In fact, if we did our jobs right, Level 3 should equal Conformance Level A (satifying all P1), Level 5 should equal Level Double A, and Level 7 = Triple A. Isn't it a goal to get WGs to conform to the OpsGL? That would mean that they must satisfy all the P1 checkpoints. Thus, they must have a committment level to P1. So, why do we use a new term - Level 3.

The Table introduces a DOV - called committment level. The OpsGL does not conform to the SpecGL's CPs that require DoVs to address the relationship to conformance, to other DoVs, etc.

Proposal: Remove the Table and CP1.1, 1.2, 1.3. An alternative to removing the Table is to amend it and move it to either the Introduction section (prior to Guideline section) or an Appendix. It should be amended by adding an additional column called, 'checkpoint'. For each row, indicate the checkpoint that applies.
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LC-4 SpecGuide 2003-02-19 SpecGuide Editorial Active Olivier Thereaux Lynne Rosenthal
Title: no definition for unconditional conformance
Description: comment about "Overall" : In the QAframe-spec glossary (http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-qaframe-spec-20030210/#definitions) there is no definition for the unconditional conformance term.
Proposal: add one? :)
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LC-5 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Ck 2.2 list of classes
Description: comment about "2.1 Identify all classes of product. " : second conformance requirement refers to list of classes but its not clear which list it is referering to. If its the list under guideline 2 then that list is non-exhaustive so requiring people to use that list is somewhat limiting
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LC-6 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Guideline 2, typo
Description: comment about "Guideline 2 Identify what needs to conform and how. " : thrid para - typo 'as either or produceser' remove 'or'
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LC-7 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Checkpoint 1.2
Description: comment about "1.2 Illustrate what is in scope" : Can use cases and examples be in a separate document from the main spec?
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LC-8 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: checkpoint 1.1
Description: comment about "1.1 Include the scope of the specification" : rather wooly conformance requirements
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LC-9 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: INTRODUCTION section 1.1, second bullet
Description: comment about "Abstract, Status,..." : Second sentence implies that all checkpoints must be satisfied to comply with the guidelines wherease only priority 1 checkpoints are mandatory.
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LC-10 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Section 7
Description: comment about "Overall" : date for LC WD is in the future (or it was when the doc was published).
Proposal: Reviewer used the WG version of the document and not the LC version of the SpecGL. Moot point.
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LC-11 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CK 2.3 Category of object: clarification
Description: comment about "2.3 Identify which of the categories of object..." : What is a category of object? The same as a class of product
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LC-12 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: section 3.4 Conformance definition
Description: comment about "Overall" : Example - not true, see comment on 3.3
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LC-13 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Section 3.3 Conformance and TAs
Description: comment about "Overall" : amusing that this section doesn't meet checkpoint 14.1 and therefore renders the document as only A-conforming to itself. Would be better if the document were AAA-conforming to itself IMO.
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LC-14 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 14.1 - clarify conformance requirement
Description: comment about "14.1 Provide test assertions" : conformance requirements - is a separate document OK or does this have to be in the same doc a the rest of the spec?
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LC-15 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: extensions
Description: comment about "Guideline 9 Allow extensions or NOT!" : A very will thought out section IMO.
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LC-16 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 8.4 clarify conformance requirement
Description: comment about "8.4 Promote consistent handling of discretionary choices." : conformance requirements not clear, what does 'document the identified policies for handling discretionary choices' mean?
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LC-17 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 7.1 deprecated features
Description: comment about "7.1 Identify each deprecated feature. " : conformance requirements imply a single section for deprecated features - is it not OK to include deprecations where they occur without a summary section?

(See subsequent email discussion.)

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LC-18 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: GL 5 non-hierarchiacal modules
Description: comment about "Guideline 5 Address the use of modules to divide the technology." : Modules are non-hierarchiacal - can modules have dependencies on other modules? If so, isn't this a hierarchy?

(See subsequent email discussion.)

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LC-19 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 4.4 explanation clarification
Description: comment about "4.4 If profiles are chosen, address rules for profiles." : 'experience shows ... meets all the pertinent checkpoints of this document' - what experience? As this is not yet a crecommendation this seems like a rather strong statement.
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LC-20 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 3.1 Conformance Requirements - clarify
Description: comment about "3.1 any universal requirements for minimum functionality." : conformance requirements - only one section for this or are multiple O.K?
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LC-21 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Marc Hadley Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 2.4 - relationships of DOV - clarify
Description: comment about "2.4 If there are several classes of products, define their relationships..." : 'define their relationships and interaction with other dimensions of variability' this is a confusing checkpoint that is repeated in each successive guideline. It's really not clear exactly what is intended.
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LC-22 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 2.3 placement of Checkpoint
Description: comment about "2.3 Identify which of the categories of object..." : This checkpoint includes a requirement for "where in your specification," even though the intro says those requirements are limited to GL1 and GL10-14.
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LC-23 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 1.4 vague
Description: comment about "1.4 Provide examples. " :

I think this checkpoint is too vague. Is it possible to break it down into a few more concrete requirements that are more verifiable? For instance:

  1. For markup specifications, provide at least one example of each markup construct.
  2. For protocol specifications, provide at least one example of ...
  3. For transformation specifications, illustrate each transformation capability with an example showing input and output.
  4. For UI specifications, provide an example of each construct, and illustrate the desired output using at least one mechanism other than the specification itself (e.g., the SVG specification should not rely on SVG rendering alone to explain what something should look like).

While you may miss some cases, I think spec editors will find this more helpful than the general goal to "provide examples."

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LC-24 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Introduction, Sect 1.4
Description: comment about "Overall" : last para: Pubrules and the MoS aren't really specifications. What about "resources?"
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LC-25 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Introduction: scope and goals
Description: comment about "Overall" : Section 1.1 Last paragraph

I think the previous paragraph doesn't belong here; it could be deleted or moved to the status section (after some editorial fixes).

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LC-26 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Multiple CPs - It is not applicable
Description: comment about "Overall" : CP 2.4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 5.1, 5.2, 6.1, 7.1, 7.2, 7.4, 7.5, 8.1, 8.3, 9.2, 9.4, 9.5, 9.6,

Suggest that the statment "It is not applicable if..." be labeled as "Normative inclusion/exclusion" as in UAAG 1.0

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LC-27 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Typos, grammar, etc.
Description: comment about "Overall" : GL 3, 2md para, Remove: "Overall, the intent of the WG should be clear" This doesn't add anything

CP 7.1, 7.4, 7.5 ConfReq, last sentence: change 'is' to 'are' in "...if there is no deprecated feature"

CP8.4 Rationale: change 'identifying' to 'identify'

CP9.1, last para: "This is strict conformance" is a repeat of text in intro of GL9

CP 11.4, last para: modify "proper use of the conformance icons" to "proper use of any conformance icons"

GL13, last para: suggest switching the order of Manual of Style and PubRules

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LC-28 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: document organization suggestions
Description: comment about "Overall" : Adopt the UAAG 1.0 approach of separating requirements from applicability exclusions (called "normative inclusions/exclusions" in UAAG 1.0). Use style sheets to hide links (e.g., to examples and techniques) for printed version.
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LC-29 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: questions and suggestions
Description: comment about "Overall" :
  1. In general, specifications make functional requirements. In some cases, it may be necessary to make a performance requirement. How should that be handled?
  2. In UAAG 1.0, we realized that for some of our configuration requirements, it didn't matter whether the user agent offered the desired configuration or didn't implement the functionality in the first place. E.g., we decided that it was ok for a user agent to not support blinking at all, or, if blinking is implemented, to offer a configuration to turn it off. However, in other cases, the configurability was "just as important" as the functionality to be configured. Authors should consider these when they specify configuration options.
  3. It might be valuable for a specification to explain how to include its requirements in another specification. This is not the same as explaining how to reference the spec, or how to claim conformance to it.
  4. It might be valuable to explain some desirable characteristics of a specified technical requirement:
    1. Mutual independence from other requirements
    2. Expresses a minimal requirement
    3. Distinguish and label: requirements, exceptions to those requirements, necessary and/or sufficient techniques for satisfying those requirements.
  5. I think that more could be stated about useful ways of allowing extensibility. See, for example, how CSS (forward-compatible parsing), XML, and HTTP handle this. What should be avoided? Is the general practice of "ignore what you don't know" a good idea or a big mistake?
  6. A spec should clearly indicate which illustrations (e.g., images) and examples are normative, if any.
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LC-30 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Profile, module, level
Description: comment about "Overall" : I am struggling to understand a sharp distinction between profile, module, and level. They are all mechanisms for defining and labeling a set of technical requirements. I have the feeling guidelines 4, 5, and 6 could be combined, and the requirements rephrased "Whatever subsetting mechanism you use..."
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LC-31 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: general
Description: comment about "Overall" :

General comments/conformance model I think the document is well-organized, clearly written, and very helpful. Having spent a lot of time thinking about conformance issues (notably for UAAG 1.0), I thought it covered a lot of ground and did so well.

I like the distinction between requirements that relate to the conformance model and those that involve implementing the model in the spec.

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LC-32 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: 4. Definitions
Description: comment about "Overall" : unconditional conformance -- This is used in HTTP. It means "all requirements met."
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LC-33 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: 4. Definitions
Description: comment about "Overall" : "deprecated -- An existing feature that has become outdated by a newer construct or is no longer viable. Deprecated features should not be used"

Hmm, "used" may not be a specific enough term. A spec may encourage a UA to support a feature, but discourage an author from producing it. and may be removed in some future version.

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LC-34 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Section 3.4 Conformance definition
Description: comment about "Overall" : " A checkpoint is satisfied by satisfying all of the individual @@conformance requirements@@. Failing one individual mandatory requirement means that the checkpoint is not satisfied." Is previous sentence required?
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LC-35 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Section 3.2 Extensibility
Description: comment about "Overall" : "...to this specification MUST not contradict nor negate the requirements of this specification." Delete previous statement per comment in checkpoint 9.3.
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LC-36 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Section 3.1 Normative sections
Description: comment about "Overall" : Is the glossary normative?
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LC-37 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 9.3
Description: comment about "9.3 Prevent extensions from contradicting the specification." : I think checkpoint 9.3 should be deleted. I think that it's straightforward that if the spec says "A" and someone else says "not A," then anyone that does "not A" doesn't conform.
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LC-38 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 9.1 and 9.2 combine
Description: comment about "9.1 Indicate if the specification is extensible." : I think checkpoints 9.1 and 9.2 should be combined into one.
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LC-39 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 8.4 policies for discretionary choices
Description: comment about "8.4 Promote consistent handling of discretionary choices." : Can "document the identified policies" be simplified?
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LC-40 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: GL7 add obsolete features
Description: comment about "Guideline 7 Identify the relation between deprecated features and conformance." : I think it's also important to identify obsolete features and provide althernatives to them. E.g., HTML 4.0 obsoleted a few elements.
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LC-41 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Substantive Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: CP 4.4 derived profile
Description: comment about "4.4 If profiles are chosen, address rules for profiles." : What is the definition of a derived profile?
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LC-42 SpecGuide 2003-03-11 SpecGuide Editorial Active Ian Jacobs Lynne Rosenthal
Title: GL3: contradiction? regarding examples
Description: comment about "Guideline 3 Specify conformance policy. " : last para, last sentence: Does "possibly provide examples" conflict with MUST provide examples of 1.4?
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LC-43 OpsGuide 2003-03-12 OpsGuide Substantive Active Peter Fawcett Lofton Henderson
Title: OpsGL Appendix 1 - Process Document Template
Description: comment about "Overall" :
  1. - "test material" is referred to in multiple ways in the document including but not limited to "test material" and "test material type". We could not determine a difference in concept from context nor could we come up with an example that needed both.
  2. - The language in Rec 1 seems odd. Especially the second sentence. "The Checklist should be developed in a public framework. The development of this framework itself is a central area of interest. The QAWG welcomes the participation of interested parties in developing the Checklist."
  3. - The third sentence in Rec 3 also seems a bit odd
  4. - We found a number of uses of "test materials" and "test suite" that did not use the "fill-in" markup.
  5. - DocumentFramework should be Document Framework
  6. - In Test materials contrabuition section in the a/b choice rather than saying tests or series.. say contributions.
  7. - In Test Materials contribution section there is a missing 'span' element around address. above]'/span' mailing list: [address].'p'
  8. - We found the first item in the list under Test Materials Contribution to be some what redundant. At least in our case as any submissions would already go to the list as it is. The test or series of tests, get submitted to the framework. Submitter should also send a notification to the mailing list that will be set up for the Checklist to indicate that he/she has submitted a test to the class="fill-this-in">[test material name] framework.
  9. - There is a typo in section Receipt and review of test contributions "according tot he" should be "according to the"
  10. - In Receipt and Review section list item 1 it currently says: "since it tests a feature that is not in the specification" should it say something more like: "since it tests a recommendation that is not in the specification" as 'feature' is not a universally applicable term.
  11. - In Receipt and Review section list item 3: This item makes the assumption that the test cases will be written in some xml based language. How ever can we make this assumption? What about languages like rdf that don't use an xml syntax?
  12. - this same section (item 3) also has a hanging ']'/span'' on it.
  13. - In Receipt and Review section list item 4: "'li''em'Scenarios'/em' that underlay the particular test layout and its intended scope.'/li'" We found the use of "test layout" to be out of place in the document. it is the only place that this term is used. We believe that it could just as easily use language that's more standard to the document.
  14. - In Receipt and Review section list item 5: The point of this checkpoint is valid, in that if the submitted test doesn't follow the Development Guide it should be rejected, how ever the notion of the Development Guide is introduced here (in this document). We feel that it should be listed earlier in the document as well. perhaps in the requirements, that the test materials be developed in accordance with the Development Guide.
  15. - Typo in last sentence of Receipt and Review section: is "publication arereurned to" should be: "publication are returned to"
  16. - In Test status and review procedures Section: In the second paragraph it reads: "the status of the test is changed to reflect the fact that its validity has been disputed" Earlier we say that "status is changed to "accepted" we should use the same verbiage here like: "state changed to "disputed""
  17. - In Test status and review procedures Section: The last sentence of the second paragraph has very odd wording.
  18. - In Test status and review procedures Section: second paragraph uses term "Task Force" in terms of the maintainers of the test materials. This is another concept that is first introduced in this context. This too would work better if the concept of appointing a "Test Task Force" was done at an earlier step.
  19. - In Test status and review procedures Section in the first item of the list. The label "stable" may not be the best word for case 1 as it doesn't really reflect what is meant. "Error Free" or "Valid" would work better.
  20. - In Test status and review procedures Section in the third item of the list. It reads: "questioned the correctness, consistency, clarity, etc" we think that correctness does not belong.
  21. - In Test status and review procedures Section in the second and third item of the list. "A consensus exists in the community" What community? The w3c, the 'whole internet' the WG (as this is specifically talking about the task force.) We are also fairly uncomfortable with the notion that the task force can be over ridden by the (not clearly defined) community. Either the taskforce agrees or disagrees and the case accepted or not. Unless "community" means WG in which case this might make sense...
  22. - In "Section Status of the test suite according to the above" We feel that the wording of this section heading could be improved quite a lot. We assume this means that if you conform to all of the above. or you've done/are doing all of the above.
  23. - In "Section Status of the test suite according to the above" second paragraph It reads: "It is proposed that the W3C WG representative act as moderator and controller for incoming tests. The moderator is chosen by the [WG name] WG. All tests should be kept for archive purposes, whether they get published or not." Much of this is repeated from above. The new information is that a moderator should be chosen. This is another case where it may be beneficial to introduce the concept of a Moderator earlier in the document. This is already covered above to some degree. But with moderator.
  24. - Both the Documentation and "See above" sections do not have references back to a GL document.
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LC-44 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Grammatical errors
Description: comment about "1.1 Include the scope of the specification" : "

This document is applied and conformance (to this document) achieved as new TRs are being written." (grammatically incorrect, intended meaning unclear) This document applies to new TRs and conformance (to this document) is achieved as they are being written.

As for legacy specification, they may indirectly comply with the spirit or intent of some checkpoints, without actually satisfying all requirements in those checkpoints. (grammatical/spelling error) "legacy specifications"

Within this Specification Guidelines document, the term "specifications' is specifically limited to W3C Technical Reports, even though these guidelines could be applied to other documents. (unbalanced quote marks)

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LC-45 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Design goal of guidelines
Description: comment about "1.2 Illustrate what is in scope" : 1.2 Class of Product and Audience -- "It is a design goal of these guidelines the WGs can apply them in a common-sense and workable manner."
Proposal: These guidelines are designed so that the WGs can apply ....
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LC-46 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Ambiguity
Description: comment about "Guideline 2 Identify what needs to conform and how. " :

I'm finding it difficult to follow which terms are reserved for 'classes of products'. The word 'consumer' is used to describe the classes of products, and itself is listed within the classes of products. For example, I find the following sentence semantically confusing: "For a processor-type specification, the processor is the consumer of an XML vocabulary defined in the specification." "For content-type specifications, there may be one or more consumers that take the content and 'play' it in some way." "Play" refers to a media player, or play refers to "process" ?

Divide this (enumerated) list into processor, consumer, or content? Make the terminology in this area unique, so that there will be no ambiguity? (It could be that the terminology is already unique, but in its current format, I can't be sure.)

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LC-47 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Spelling error in Example and Techniques
Description: comment about "2.2 For each class of product, define the conformance requirements. " : Spelling error in corresponding example and techniques: http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/02/qaframe-spec-extech-20030203#Ck-define-scope "XHTML", not "XHML" :)
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LC-48 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Categories of object not previously clearly defined
Description: comment about "2.3 Identify which of the categories of object..." : "Checkpoint 2.3. Identify which of the categories of object are specified in the document as a whole. [Priority 3]" Reader should be able to understand what 'categories of object' are upon reference - this is the first instance that this phrase is used in this document. Even though a URI is provided to the applicable definition of 'categories of object', the definition itself should introduce the list with this phrase. Eg: "Most specifications can be classified into one of the following categories of object ..."
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LC-49 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Complexity in explanation
Description: comment about "Guideline 4 Address the use of profiles to divide the technology." : I can't understand what 'profile' means by this explanation; this should perhaps be simplified?
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LC-50 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Ambiguity or error?
Description: comment about "4.1 Indicate whether or not the use of profiles is mandatory..." : "For example, is content required to conform to one of the profiles, or is there a concept of conformance of content independent of conformance to one of the profiles?"

Ambiguity or error? (I count four 'of's in the second clause! :D)

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LC-51 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: GLs 4, 5 and 6
Description: comment about "Overall" : Explanations for profiles, modules and functional levels are vague. Use diagrams for examples ?
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LC-52 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: NOT ?
Description: comment about "Guideline 9 Allow extensions or NOT!" : 'NOT!' seems rather uncharacteristic and out of line with regards to the remaining document. What about simply "Not" ?
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LC-53 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Ambiguity
Description: comment about "Overall" : 1.3 Motivation and Expected Benefits (Introduction) -- "Providing requirements and definitions about conformance topics, as well as guidance in the structure and anatomy of specifications, will foster a mutual understanding among developers of specifications, implementations, and conformance test materials." (Comment: meaning is ambiguous) "foster a mutual understanding among developers about ..."
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LC-54 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Editorial Active Stephanie Troeth Lynne Rosenthal
Title: GLs 3, 10, 11, 12 and 13
Description: comment about "Overall" : These are all guidelines which refer specifically to conformance. Would it make more sense to number these sequentially (in order to group them together), rather than having the big gap between 3 and 10 ?
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LC-55 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Substantive Active Jon Gunderson Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Accessibility
Description: comment about "Overall" : Specifications should have a section or the ability to highligh the features of the specification that benefit people with disabilities
Proposal: Include a requirement that a specification have a section summarizing the accessibility features of the specification
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LC-56 SpecGuide 2003-03-13 SpecGuide Substantive Active Jon Gunderson Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Accessibility
Description: comment about "Overall" : QA test suites should also include tests that test the accessibility features of a specification based on the accessibility requirements found in other W3C documents. This may require having a specific person in charge of defining and monitoring the inclusion of accessibility features.
Proposal: Include a requirement in the Operation Guidelines for a person to be responsible for accessibility tests of a specification
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LC-57 OpsGuide 2003-03-12 OpsGuide Substantive Active Dominique Hazael-Massieux Lofton Henderson
Title: GL and timeline of a document
Description: comment about "Overall" : most guidelines are only applicable at some point in the WG's life, but the GL don't identify this aspect: this is something that absolutely needs to be stressed, and could even be used as a strategy to organize the GL as a whole, e.g. what you need to do before starting a WG, what needs to be done when you start developing a new spec, what needs to be done when you envision building a test suite, etc.
Proposal: at least, provide a section (an image?) linking the GL or the CP to the milestones of a WG life
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LC-58 OpsGuide 2003-03-12 OpsGuide Substantive Active Dominique Hazael-Massieux Lofton Henderson
Title: Process Document requirement is too specific
Description: comment about "Overall" : a WG should still be able to comply to a CP without having a QA Process Document.
Proposal: replace QA process document references by a documented WG decision?
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LC-59 OpsGuide 2003-03-12 OpsGuide Editorial Active Dominique Hazael-Massieux Lofton Henderson
Title: Testability concerns
Description: comment about "Overall" : The following expressions seemed either hard to apply or to test:
  1. - "QA deliverables" is very broad and not defined (GL3)
  2. - "ensure" is not testable in a conformance requirement (at least CP 3.2, 6.1)
  3. - "commensurate" isn't either (CP 4.2)
  4. - using the future makes a CP untestable (CP 6.3)
  5. - "a quality assessment" is not well defined (CP 7.1)
  6. - "sufficient" is not testable (CP 7.2)
  7. - 'all' is not testable (CP 7.3)
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LC-60 OpsGuide 2003-03-14 OpsGuide Substantive Active Patrick Curran Lofton Henderson
Title: Structure/Organization of Guidelines
Description: comment about "Overall" : Comments on the structure and organization of the guidelines and checkpoints of SpecGL.

Overall, I think we have the right checkpoints, but I think they would be easier to understand if they were grouped chronologically. Start with what needs to be done when the WG is formed, and proceed through the spec and test development cycle to the maintenance phase, as we have tried to do with the restructuring of TestGL.

Guideline 1:

I find checkpoints 1.1 - 1.3 very confusing. These are "compound checkpoints" that incorporate multiple other checkpoints. We don't use this structure anywhere else in our docs - why here? The document states "This seven-point enumeration is derived from the proposal to the QA mail list, after the 4/2001 QA Workshop", but how we got here is not really interesting to the reader.

The 'sub-checkpoints' on the 'left hand side' of the table are all spec-related. Either these duplicate checkpoints from SpecGL, or they should be incorporated into that document. Those on the 'right hand side' are operations-related, but they seem to overlap with other checkpoints specified in this document.

Recommendation: drop the compound structure, make sure that all the spec-related sub-checkpoints are covered by SpecGL, and move the 'test materials' sub-checkpoints into the body of this doc.

The remaining checkpoints under guideline 1 are different kinds of beasts (not compound) and as such, the transition to them seems somewhat abrupt.

Guideline 2: I'd say "Allocate resources..." rather than "Define resources..."

Guideline 3 begins with some text ("The benefits of....") that seems to be a rationale. Other Guidelines jump straight into the Conformance requirements - this one should too.

How is checkpoint 3.1 different from 1.5?

Checkpoint 3.2 doesn't seem to be directly related to the Guideline under which it's classified. The Note for 3.2 points out that checkpoint 8.2 is related - doesn't this suggest that the overall structure should be re-worked (if they're related, why are they so far apart numerically?)

Guideline 4

Probably should be #1 (it's the first chronologically). When we summarized this document in our outreach presentation we made checkpoint 4.1 the first bullet item...

Checkpoints 4.1 and 4.2 would seem to belong in Guideline 2 (define/allocate resources) rather than here?

The Discussion for checkpoint 4.3 says "To summarize...". This implies that somewhere there's a more detailed description of what the QAPD must address, but I don't think there is. This checkpoint really seems to amount to "document how you meet these other checkpoints", yet the list of "other checkpoints" that must be implemented is incomplete. Why doesn't this simply require that *all* checkpoints be documented?

Checkpoint 4.5 uses the ambiguous term "framework" (we tried to avoid this in our re-write of OpsGL).

Checkpoint 4.6 addresses branding - another argument for a chronological rather than a 'logical' grouping (this should be at the end).

Guideline 5

Checkpoint 5.2 - Define a contribution process. Why only priority 2? Without a contribution process you have nothing, surely?

Guideline 6

Checkpoint 6.1 contains a mixture of stuff. The guideline addresses "publication" but much of this checkpoint addresses "management". Moreover, the bullet items in the Discussion section don't seem to relate to repositories at all.

Checkpoint 6.2 (defining the license for published test materials) is closely related to 5.3 (defining the license for submissions). Should these be grouped together (under a guideline that addresses submission processes)?

Guideline 7

This guideline is labelled "plan the transfer of test materials to W3C if needed", and explicitly states "all of the checkpoints... are not applicable if the WG does not transfer..." (should be "none of the checkpoints are applicable if..."). However, all the checkpoints seem to apply whether or not the materials are "transferred". It's obviously important to review the quality of submitted tests, to ensure that we have the staffing to deal with submissions, and to resolve IPR issues.

Proposal: I think we have approximately the right checkpoints, but I think they would be easier to understand if they were grouped chronologically. A possible set of guidelines might be:
  • Charter
  • Allocation of resources
  • Planning & synchronization
  • Test submission/development
  • Test management
  • Test publication
  • Conformance testing (test usage)
  • Maintenance
Resolution:
LC-61 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Substantive Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: document product class
Description: comment about "Guideline 2 Identify what needs to conform and how. " : Guideline 2 could give "document" and "resource" either as product classes or as examples of the "content" class. (Checkpoint 2.1 does finally mention "document.")
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LC-62 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Editorial Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: typos
Description: comment about "Overall" : In section 3.3, s/This Operational Guidelines document/This Specification Guidelines document/

In the guideline title and table of contents entry for Guideline 12 and in 3.4 last par., "pro forma" is two words.

The table of contents link to section 3.1 is broken.

(These probably have been reported by now but just in case.)

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LC-63 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Editorial Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Table of Contents
Description: comment about "Overall" : Would the table of contents in QA Framework specs that have guidelines be easier to follow if non-Guideline sections all appeared by number in the table of contents? E.g. "3. Conformance" could be followed by "3.1 Normative sections" rather than by "1. Normative sections"? The difference between for example "checkpoint 1.1" and "section 1.1" (both about scope) then would be distinct and easier to talk about.
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LC-64 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Editorial Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: conformance terms
Description: comment about "3.2 If special conformance terms are used, include a definition..." : Checkpoint 3.2 says: "the specification MUST be defined, either by reference or by including the definition in the text." Did you mean to say that the whole spec is considered to be "defined" through references and definitions? In that case, please ignore this comment.
Proposal: Could read something like: "terms used to describe conformance MUST be defined, either by reference or by including the definition in the text." (I'm afraid "conformance terms..." might mean you'd have to define "terms.")
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LC-65 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Editorial Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: sentences and paragraphs (section 3.1)
Description: comment about "Overall" : In section 3.1, "sentences" becomes "typically, one paragraph...." Is a sentence containing an RFC 2119 key word a unit of being normative, or do you mean that a paragraph containing such a sentence is or can be the unit? I'm not sure if it is important to draw a line. Section 4's definition of normative says "text in a specification which is prescriptive or contains conformance requirements" which seems to mean any text with no boundaries (for example, like section, chapter, slice).
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LC-66 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Substantive Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: edition and version DoVs
Description: comment about "Overall" : Guidelines 4-6 and the section 4 definitions are great descriptions of profiles, modules, and levels, thanks. Are "editions" and "versions" DoVs? If for example, a requirement changed between Version 1.0 and Version 1.1 of some specification, so that a 1.0 processor could not read 1.1, that might be a "variability."
Proposal: If you think edition and version do matter, they could be addressed in section 1.8, or in a separate Guideline.
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LC-67 SpecGuide 2003-03-14 SpecGuide Substantive Active Susan Lesch Lynne Rosenthal
Title: limits of RFC 2119 key words
Description: comment about "13.1 Use conformance key words." : "the specification MUST use RFC 2119 keywords to denote whether or not requirements are mandatory, optional, or suggested" is Priority 1. Must all testable statements and or test assertions (sorry I'm not clear on the difference between them and maybe that needs to be clarified, too) contain RFC 2119 key words?

RFC 2119 [1] section "6. Guidance in the use of these Imperatives" puts limits their use. (I mentioned this to the QAWG about a year ago.) They musn't be used only to ask implementers to do something a Working Group would like to see.

Proposal: One way to solve this is to quote or paraphrase and link to the RFC.

"Imperatives of the type defined in this memo must be used with care and sparingly. In particular, they MUST only be used where it is actually required for interoperation or to limit behavior which has potential for causing harm (e.g., limiting retransmisssions) For example, they must not be used to try to impose a particular method on implementors where the method is not required for interoperability."

[1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt

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LC-68 IntroGuide 2003-03-14 IntroGuide Editorial Active Susan Lesch Lofton Henderson
Title: Intro draft
Description: comment about "General: miscellaneous & other" : I found Ian Jacob's SpecGL edits [1] in your archive and would like to send ideas for the QA Framework Introduction. I expect they will be ready at [2] by 14 March 24:00 Pacific.
  • [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2003Feb/0021.html
  • [2] http://www.w3.org/2003/03/14-qa-intro-lesch.html
Proposal: Use or not, as you see fit. As this is my last Last Call comment, I just want to say that it must have been a monumental task to put the framework together. You've made it look elegant, and easy to use. Best wishes for your project.
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LC-69 IntroGuide 2003-03-15 IntroGuide Editorial Active Colleen Evans Lofton Henderson
Title: Several comments on various parts of Introduction
Description: comment about "General: miscellaneous & other" : [Entered into form by LH. Some are significant editorial, but all are classified as "Editorial" because there are no conformance implications or suggestions for major document reorganization.] Review comments: In general it provides useful guidance on how to use the Framework, defining audience and WG activity applicability for each document. Is this a Working Draft or Last Call Working Draft? Title indicates the former. Interspersed usage of the terms 'document', 'guideline', and 'specification' to describe the QA Framework documents could be confusing. E.g., paragraph 4 of Status: "... It is anticipated that this specification will eventually progress, along with its Operational Guidelines and Specification Guidelines companions, to Candidate Recommendation (CR) and beyond. The timing of progression of this specification will be determined by the progression of the companion guidelines documents." Similarly, 'TR', 'standard', 'specification', and 'recommendation' are used interchangeably to describe the output of WGs. Section 1.3, first sentence: "The last underscores a key reality of improved quality practices associated with W3C technical reports". Not clear what 'the last' is (previous section?). Section 1.4, paragraph 3, first sentence incomplete? "While some might perceive QA projects as a regrettable drain on WG resources, there is ample experience, both within W3C as well as other standards venues, that shows significant improvement to the products of the WGs." Sections 1.3 (paragraph 1) and 1.4 (paragraphs 2 and 3) contain general justification arguments for QA efforts in WGs - may be more appropriate content for Section 1.2. Section 3.1 Application Domain - does this belong in Section 3 (Structure and content of Framework documents)? Seems more like Section 1 (Overview) content where target audience is covered. Sections 3.5.2 - 3.5.5 describe each document - information on content, audience, and objective. It may help readability to use a consistent order for presenting this information across sections. Section 3.5.4 Single item bullet list? Section 4.1.3 Useful breakout of document relevance by role within a WG. Section 4.2 Provides a good life cycle view of the relationship between Framework documents and WG activities. A table summary might be useful as well. Section 4.1.3 "WG-TS moderator" - Section 4.2.2 "test materials (QA) moderator". Same role? Section 4.2.3, paragraph 4, second sentence is unclear: "Normally, this should not be considered as a good time to bring a specification for 'Specification Guidelines' conformance, as the latter could significantly disrupt and restructure the specification.". Is 'the latter' referring to bringing a spec to specification guidelines conformance, or something in a previous sentence? Section 4.2.5. Intra-WG build of test materials calls for an acceptance procedure for the individual bits. Import and assemble only call for quality assessment and assessment criteria - is an acceptance procedure required / implied? Editorial Usage of Working Group vs. WG inconsistent throughout Inconsistent bullet list punctuation (';' vs. ',' vs. nothing at line end, etc.) Section 1.2, paragraph 1 "...." at end of first sentence Section 4.2.5, paragraph 2 "? -- as " in middle of second sentence
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LC-70 OpsGuide 2003-03-15 OpsGuide Substantive Active Phill Jenkins Lofton Henderson
Title: Checklist format issue
Description: comment about "Overall" : [Entered into form by LH. Comment applies to Checklists of SpecGL and TestGL as well OpsGL.] I have noticed a number of "checklists" being proliferated on the W3C pages. I have a strong recommendation for improving the adaptability of the checklist format - namely the number of column in the layout. For example, today most have a column for the number of the checkpoint, the description of the checkpoint, and then a number of columns for YES, NO, N/A. Please consider adapting the following format: Top matter: Version, date, owner, etc Column 1 10% Checkpoint number Column 2 40% Description Column 3 10% YES, NO, N/A, Planned Column 4 40% Comments Bottom matter: Footnotes, exceptions, references, etc. an example we find useful is at http://www-3.ibm.com/able/accesssoftware.html [[Following is (unarchived) comment from Ian Jacobs: We redesigned the UAAG 1.0 checklist [1] based on earlier comments from you [1]. We don't specify fixed widths for table columns. - Ian [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-UAAG10-20021217/uaag10-chktable.html [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000AprJun/0137.html ]]
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LC-71 IntroGuide 2003-03-15 IntroGuide Substantive Active Leonid Arbouzov Lofton Henderson
Title: Collected substantive & editorial comments
Description: comment about "General: miscellaneous & other" : [Entered into form by LH.] Six substantive and editorial issues on "QA Framework: Introduction" are included in the document at http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/03/qareview20030314.html , which was submitted to QA on 14 Mar 2003: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2003Mar/0079.html
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LC-72 OpsGuide 2003-03-15 OpsGuide Substantive Active Leonid Arbouzov Lofton Henderson
Title: Collected substantive & editorial comments
Description: comment about "Overall" : [Entered into form by LH.] Thirteen (13) substantive and editorial issues on "QA Framework: Operational Guidelines" are included in the document at: http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/03/qareview20030314.html , which was submitted to QA on 14 Mar 2003: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2003Mar/0079.html
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LC-73 SpecGuide 2003-03-15 SpecGuide Substantive Active Leonid Arbouzov Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Collected substantive & editorial comments
Description: comment about "Overall" : [Entered into form by LH.] Nine substantive and editorial issues on "QA Framework: Specification Guidelines" are included in the document at: http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/03/qareview20030314.html , which was submitted to QA on 14 Mar 2003: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2003Mar/0079.html
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LC-74 SpecGuide 2003-03-15 SpecGuide Substantive Active Lofton Henderson Lynne Rosenthal
Title: Simplify & consolidate the guidelines of SpecGL
Description: comment about "Overall" :

If the 14 specification guidelines can be clearly summarized in 6 bullets, as we claim is done in the QA Outreach Kit, http://www.w3.org/2003/Talks/qa-outreach/slide5-0.html , then perhaps the guidelines themselves ought to be consolidated and reduced in number. I believe that most of the checkpoints are appropriate, but perhaps should be repackaged.

Six bullets:

  • Scope - define the scope, identifying what needs to conform and how
  • Conformance Clause - specify the conformance policy and requirements
  • If you must subset - use profiles, modules, functional levels
  • Extensions - specify whether and how extensions are allowed
  • Tag for later use - identify testable assertions, discretionary items
  • Claims - specify how conformance claims and statements are made

I think the first 4 are almost right for guidelines. The later ones don't seem to me to be quite right.

  1. new GL1: define and illustrate scope (includes old GL1, GL2)
  2. new GL2: define conformance policy and requirements (old GL3, GL10)
  3. new GL3: subset as needed (old GL4, GL5, GL6)
  4. new GL4: extensions (old GL9)

    (It gets a little rougher from here on...)

  5. new GL5: get a handle on other conformance variability
  6. new GL6: is there a nice umbrella statement that would accomodate GL13 and GL14?
  7. new GL7: claims -- specify how and provide an ICS [old GL11, GL12]

So at best, we would have 7 guidelines. At worst, 9 (if the new GL5 wouldn't stick together, and we couldn't find a new GL6 that was satisfactory).

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Table Legend

num
Last Call issue number
Title
Short title/name of the issue
Spec
Document referred to in Last Call issue (Intro = QA Framework: Introduction; OpsGuide & OpsGL = QA Framework: Operational Guidelines; SpecGuide & SpecGL = Framework: Specification Guidelines)
Description
Short description of issue, possibly including link to origin of issue
Date
The date at which the issue was raised or initially logged.
Topic
Rough topic categorization, one of: ...tbd... [replace following XMLP stuff... env(elope), rpc, enc(oding), meta(issue), bind(ing), fault]
Class
Substantive or Editorial
Status
One of: Unassigned, Active, Closed, Postponed
Proposal
Current proposal for resolution of issue, possibly including link to further text
Resolution
Short description of resolution, possibly including link to a more elaborate description
Raised by
Person who raised the issue
Owner
QA WG Member responsible for the issue

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