ISSUE-107: Politics in fallback example for plugin usage
plugin-fallback-example
Politics in fallback example for plugin usage
- State:
- CLOSED
- Product:
- HTML 5 spec
- Raised by:
- Julian Reschke
- Opened on:
- 2010-04-07
- Description:
- Escalated from bugzilla: <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8784>
The spec currently currently has the following example:
<!DOCTYPE HTML>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<title>O3D test page</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>
<object type="application/vnd.o3d.auto">
<param name="o3d_features" value="FloatingPointTextures">
This page requires the use of a proprietary technology. Since you
have not installed the software product required to view this
page, you should try visiting another site that instead uses open
vendor-neutral technologies.
</object>
<script src="o3dtest.js"></script>
</p>
</body>
</html>
(see <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/text-level-semantics.html#the-param-element>)
The problem with the fallback text is that it's not a good example at all; it just transports an anti-plugin point of view. Why would *anybody* *ever* put that text into a page?
A more realistic example would use fallback text with instructions about where to actually get the plugin.
- Related Actions Items:
- No related actions
- Related emails:
- HTML-ISSUE-158 (object-content-model): TITLE: HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2011-01-22)
- Re: ISSUE-128 (figure-in-p): Chairs Solicit Proposals (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2010-11-01)
- {minutes} } HTML WG telecon 2010-07-24: issues, surveys, decisions, publication status, TF reports (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-06-25)
- Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-107 plugin-fallback-example Change Proposal to replace <object> fallback example (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-06-24)
- Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-107 plugin-fallback-example Change Proposal to replace <object> fallback example (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-06-24)
- Fwd: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-07-24: issues, surveys, decisions, publication status, TF reports (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-06-23)
- Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-107 plugin-fallback-example Change Proposal to replace <object> fallback example (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-06-23)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-17: actions, issues, publication status (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-06-16)
- Re: Change Proposals, objections, and the Decision Policy (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2010-06-16)
- Re: Change Proposals, objections, and the Decision Policy (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-06-16)
- Re: Change Proposals, objections, and the Decision Policy (from w3c@adambarth.com on 2010-06-16)
- Re: Change Proposals, objections, and the Decision Policy (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-06-16)
- Re: Change Proposals, objections, and the Decision Policy (from w3c@adambarth.com on 2010-06-15)
- CfC: Adopt ISSUE-107 plugin-fallback-example Change Proposal to replace <object> fallback example (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-06-15)
- {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-10: action items, decision policy, task force reports, publication status (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2010-06-10)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-10: action items, decision policy, task force reports, publication status (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2010-06-10)
- FW: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-10: action items, decision policy, task force reports, publication status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-06-10)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-10: action items, decision policy, task force reports, publication status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-06-10)
- RE: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2010-05-27)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2010-05-27)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2010-05-27)
- ISSUE-103, ISSUE-107, was: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-05-27)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-05-26)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-20: Surveys close, Publishing new Working Drafts (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-05-19)
- minutes, 2010-05-13 HTML WG telcon (from mike@w3.org on 2010-05-14)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-13: Action items, surveys, Task Force reports (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-05-12)
- Re: //head/object (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2010-05-05)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2010-05-05)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-28)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-23)
- RE: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from lrosenth@adobe.com on 2010-04-23)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-23)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-04-23)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-23)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2010-04-22)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-22)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-04-22)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-22)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-22)
- ISSUE-107 Change Proposal: Replace <object> fallback example (from lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au on 2010-04-22)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-21)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-22: Action items, issues, decision policy, A11Y recommendations, polyglot spec (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-04-21)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-22: Action items, issues, decision policy, A11Y recommendations, polyglot spec (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-04-21)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au on 2010-04-21)
- Re: ISSUE-107 plugin-fallback-example - Chairs Solicit Alternate Proposals or Counter-Proposals (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2010-04-20)
- ISSUE-107 plugin-fallback-example - Chairs Solicit Alternate Proposals or Counter-Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-20)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-20)
- Minutes of HTML WG meeting, Apr 15 2010 (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-04-19)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-15)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-04-14)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2010-04-14)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-14)
- RE: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from jfoliot@stanford.edu on 2010-04-14)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2010-04-14)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-14)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au on 2010-04-14)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2010-04-13)
- Re: ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2010-04-13)
- ISSUE-107 Change Proposal (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-13)
- Minutes of HTML WG meeting, Apr 8 2010 (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-04-08)
- Re: ISSUE-107 (plugin-fallback-example): Politics in fallback example for plugin usage [HTML 5 spec] (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2010-04-07)
- ISSUE-107 (plugin-fallback-example): Politics in fallback example for plugin usage [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2010-04-07)
Related notes:
Moving to OPEN since this has a Change Proposal.
Maciej Stachowiak, 20 Apr 2010, 11:01:21http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/commit-watchers-whatwg.org/2010/004269.html
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/commit-watchers-whatwg.org/2010/004270.html
CLOSED by adopting a Change Proposal.
Maciej Stachowiak, 1 Jul 2010, 04:41:57Display change log