None.
<sandro> Guest: Dave Hau, NCI
<sandro> Guest: Makx Dekkers
<sandro> Scribe: Hadley
(Scribe set to Hadley Beeman)
<sandro> Guest: John (olyerickson) Erickson, RPI
<sandro> Guest: Owen Amber, StratML
<sandro> Guest: Yuwei Lin, University of Salford
<sandro> Guest: Jeff (jak88) Kaplan, Open ePolicy Solutions
<sandro> Guest: James (James_F) Forrester, UK Cabinet Office
<sandro> Topic: introductions
13:11:04 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/30-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/30-egov-irc ←
13:11:12 <hadleybeeman> rrsagent, make records public
rrsagent, make records public ←
13:12:14 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: The IRC chat channel is a secondary channel for these calls. The backchannel discussion is partnered with our telephone conference.
Jeanne Holm: The IRC chat channel is a secondary channel for these calls. The backchannel discussion is partnered with our telephone conference. ←
13:13:09 <Zakim> + +7.239.70.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +7.239.70.aaff ←
13:13:26 <hadleybeeman> Josema: former co-chair of this group. It tried to look at the same issues Jeanne mentioned at the beginning
José Alonso: former co-chair of this group. It tried to look at the same issues Jeanne mentioned at the beginning ←
13:13:30 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: CODE FOR TODAY is 26634. Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2011Aug/0008.html
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: CODE FOR TODAY is 26634. Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2011Aug/0008.html ←
13:14:03 <hadleybeeman> Josema: We focused on 2 or 3 issues. Last document was a draft on publishing open government data on the web. Also social media stuff and open government work too.
José Alonso: We focused on 2 or 3 issues. Last document was a draft on publishing open government data on the web. Also social media stuff and open government work too. ←
13:14:05 <Zakim> + +1.301.443.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.443.aagg ←
13:14:17 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:14:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg ←
13:15:09 <hadleybeeman> ... highlighting achievement of the previous group : good at reaching the technology and policy people. There were good conversations between the two groups; I hope this will continue.
... highlighting achievement of the previous group : good at reaching the technology and policy people. There were good conversations between the two groups; I hope this will continue. ←
13:15:40 <Zakim> + +1.509.464.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.464.aahh ←
13:15:57 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:15:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, +1.509.464.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, +1.509.464.aahh ←
13:16:03 <olyerickson> How do we help Zakim with it's caller ID?
John Erickson: How do we help Zakim with it's caller ID? ←
13:16:40 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: Staff contact with the W3C especially on the semantic web
Sandro Hawke: Staff contact with the W3C especially on the semantic web ←
13:17:01 <James_F> olyerickson, You ask it to listen, then when it identifies which SIP accessor has been talking, you can ask it to match them.
James Forrester: olyerickson, You ask it to listen, then when it identifies which SIP accessor has been talking, you can ask it to match them. ←
13:17:11 <hadleybeeman> ... Goal: make sure everyone is satisfied and happy with this group
... Goal: make sure everyone is satisfied and happy with this group ←
13:17:29 <olyerickson> So I'll do that when I talk guess... ;)
John Erickson: So I'll do that when I talk guess... ;) ←
13:17:30 <hadleybeeman> Josema: goal: coordinate activities at the Web Foundation with the W3c
José Alonso: goal: coordinate activities at the Web Foundation with the W3c ←
13:17:57 <sandro> Going through this list: ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, +1.509.464.aahh
Sandro Hawke: Going through this list: ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, +1.509.464.aahh ←
13:18:20 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman Goal: to coordinate government data work with broader technology issues
hadleybeeman Goal: to coordinate government data work with broader technology issues ←
13:18:24 <sandro> Makx Decker
Sandro Hawke: Makx Decker ←
13:18:29 <Zakim> + +44.786.783.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.786.783.aaii ←
13:18:35 <Rachel> aahh is Rachel
Rachel Flagg: aahh is Rachel ←
13:18:38 <sandro> dc meta initiative
Sandro Hawke: dc meta initiative ←
13:18:47 <sandro> europeana
Sandro Hawke: europeana ←
13:18:52 <sandro> semic-eu
Sandro Hawke: semic-eu ←
13:18:53 <josema> zakim, aahh is Rachel
José Alonso: zakim, aahh is Rachel ←
13:18:53 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it ←
13:19:18 <sandro> okf open knowldege
Sandro Hawke: okf open knowldege ←
13:19:43 <jak88> jak88 = Jeff Kaplan, Managing Director of Open ePolicy Solutions ... management consulting focused on open technologies, ICT policies and digital content
Jeff Kaplan: jak88 = Jeff Kaplan, Managing Director of Open ePolicy Solutions ... management consulting focused on open technologies, ICT policies and digital content ←
13:19:50 <hadleybeeman> Makx: Goal: using web technologies, back end processes to help egov interoperability. Metadata schemas and vocabularies and reference collections.
Makx Dekkers: Goal: using web technologies, back end processes to help egov interoperability. Metadata schemas and vocabularies and reference collections. ←
13:20:15 <Jeanne> Thanks for adding in your thoughts everyone!
Jeanne Holm: Thanks for adding in your thoughts everyone! ←
13:20:27 <sandro> Gannon
Sandro Hawke: Gannon ←
13:20:33 <jak88> And you, Jose
Jeff Kaplan: And you, Jose ←
13:20:39 <Makx> Makx Dekkers that is
Makx Dekkers: Makx Dekkers that is ←
13:20:40 <hadleybeeman> gdick: privacy, community, government supply of data
Gannon Dick: privacy, community, government supply of data ←
13:20:49 <sandro> Owen Amber
Sandro Hawke: Owen Amber ←
13:20:56 <sandro> co-chairing stratml
Sandro Hawke: co-chairing stratml ←
13:20:58 <olyerickson> olyerickson is John Erickson, Director of Web Science Operations, Tetherless World Constellation, RPI
John Erickson: olyerickson is John Erickson, Director of Web Science Operations, Tetherless World Constellation, RPI ←
13:21:18 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:21:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, Rachel, +44.786.783.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P11, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, +1.646.373.aaee, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, Rachel, +44.786.783.aaii ←
13:21:44 <hadleybeeman> Owen: Goal: to see if US federal government can use stratml.
Owen Amber: Goal: to see if US federal government can use stratml. ←
13:22:01 <hadleybeeman> ... for government intentions and performance.
... for government intentions and performance. ←
13:22:01 <jak88> The 646 tel # = jak88 = Jeff Kaplan
Jeff Kaplan: The 646 tel # = jak88 = Jeff Kaplan ←
13:22:07 <James_F> Does Zakim list numbers in the order they dialed in? If so, I'm possibly ??P11.
James Forrester: Does Zakim list numbers in the order they dialed in? If so, I'm possibly ??P11. ←
13:22:17 <sandro> Martin Kliehm
Sandro Hawke: Martin Kliehm ←
13:22:34 <sandro> Zakim, P11 is James_F
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, P11 is James_F ←
13:22:34 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'P11'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'P11' ←
13:22:38 <sandro> Zakim, ??P11 is James_F
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, ??P11 is James_F ←
13:22:38 <Zakim> +James_F; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +James_F; got it ←
13:22:46 <James_F> Thanks, sandro.
James Forrester: Thanks, sandro. ←
13:22:53 <olyerickson> @James_F I'm also possibly ??P11 ...
John Erickson: @James_F I'm also possibly ??P11 ... ←
13:22:59 <James_F> Ha.
James Forrester: Ha. ←
13:23:08 <James_F> We can always re-map.
James Forrester: We can always re-map. ←
13:23:10 <hadleybeeman> Kliehm: Martin Kliehm, web dev, invited expert in HTML WG and Accessibility TF. Elected member of city council of Frankfurt. Goal: learn more about open data.
Martin Kliehm: Martin Kliehm, web dev, invited expert in HTML WG and Accessibility TF. Elected member of city council of Frankfurt. Goal: learn more about open data. ←
13:23:13 <olyerickson> (The Zakim help thing is not helpful on this question)
John Erickson: (The Zakim help thing is not helpful on this question) ←
13:23:14 <sandro> olyerickson, James_F it doesn't matter too much, as long as you don't do a command like "Zakim, mute me"
Sandro Hawke: olyerickson, James_F it doesn't matter too much, as long as you don't do a command like "Zakim, mute me" ←
13:23:41 <James_F> Zakim, aaee is jak88
James Forrester: Zakim, aaee is jak88 ←
13:23:41 <Zakim> +jak88; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jak88; got it ←
13:23:42 <sandro> zakim, aaee is jak88
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaee is jak88 ←
13:23:42 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee' ←
13:23:50 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:23:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, Rachel, +44.786.783.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, +7.239.70.aaff, +1.301.443.aagg, Rachel, +44.786.783.aaii ←
13:24:12 <hadleybeeman> Jak88: jeff kaplan. Open government and open data, internationally. Goal: keep up on best practices in egov and open data.
Jeff Kaplan: jeff kaplan. Open government and open data, internationally. Goal: keep up on best practices in egov and open data. ←
13:24:27 <James_F> +7 is Russia, I believe.
James Forrester: +7 is Russia, I believe. ←
13:24:40 <sandro> zakim, aaff is Eyal_Sela
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaff is Eyal_Sela ←
13:24:40 <Zakim> +Eyal_Sela; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Eyal_Sela; got it ←
13:24:52 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is speaking?
zakim, who is speaking? ←
13:25:06 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +44.786.783.aaii (11%), jak88 (5%), Eyal_Sela (76%)
Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +44.786.783.aaii (11%), jak88 (5%), Eyal_Sela (76%) ←
13:25:15 <hadleybeeman> Israeli w3c and Internet Association, encourage israeli governemnt participation.
Israeli w3c and Internet Association, encourage israeli governemnt participation. ←
13:25:34 <sandro> zakim, aagg is DaveHau
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aagg is DaveHau ←
13:25:34 <Zakim> +DaveHau; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DaveHau; got it ←
13:25:49 <sandro> DaveHau: NCI thesaurus
Dave Hau: NCI thesaurus [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
13:26:36 <hadleybeeman> DaveHau: National Cancer Institute - semantic infrastructure project. Goal/interest: learn from how data.gov is exposing clinical-quality data. Cross-agency data linking, esp in disaster preparedness.
Dave Hau: National Cancer Institute - semantic infrastructure project. Goal/interest: learn from how data.gov is exposing clinical-quality data. Cross-agency data linking, esp in disaster preparedness. ←
13:26:43 <Zakim> + +1.202.651.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.651.aajj ←
13:26:59 <sandro> Rachel Flagg, federal web managers council
Sandro Hawke: Rachel Flagg, federal web managers council ←
13:27:07 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:27:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, +44.786.783.aaii, +1.202.651.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, +44.786.783.aaii, +1.202.651.aajj ←
13:27:17 <hadleybeeman> Rachel: Rachel Flagg. US GSA, co-chair Federal Web Managers Council. Goal: see what other govs are doing, help the US serve their online customers.
Rachel Flagg: Rachel Flagg. US GSA, co-chair Federal Web Managers Council. Goal: see what other govs are doing, help the US serve their online customers. ←
13:27:39 <James_F> +44 is the UK
James Forrester: +44 is the UK ←
13:27:57 <hadleybeeman> NIg Greenaway: Fujitsu
NIg Greenaway: Fujitsu ←
13:27:59 <sandro> zakim, aaii is nick
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaii is nick ←
13:27:59 <Zakim> +nick; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nick; got it ←
13:28:11 <sandro> ed_ for today use 26634
Sandro Hawke: ed_ for today use 26634 ←
13:28:12 <James_F> ed_, You need to use 26634
James Forrester: ed_, You need to use 26634 ←
13:28:21 <edsu> thnx
Ed Summers: thnx ←
13:28:28 <sandro> zakim, nick is Nig
Sandro Hawke: zakim, nick is Nig ←
13:28:28 <Zakim> +Nig; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Nig; got it ←
13:29:01 <olyerickson> q?
John Erickson: q? ←
13:29:07 <Daniel> hi all
Daniel Bennett: hi all ←
13:29:09 <olyerickson> q
John Erickson: q ←
13:29:17 <hadleybeeman> Nig: standardisation, interoperability. Helps the UK gov CTO council and OASIS transformational government framework.
Nig Greenaway: standardisation, interoperability. Helps the UK gov CTO council and OASIS transformational government framework. ←
13:29:35 <sandro> zakim, aajj is Daniel
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aajj is Daniel ←
13:29:35 <Zakim> +Daniel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Daniel; got it ←
13:29:36 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
13:29:49 <sandro> zakim, who is on the all?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the all? ←
13:29:49 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, sandro.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, sandro. ←
13:29:53 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:29:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, Nig, Daniel, ??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, ??P3, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, Nig, Daniel, ??P26 ←
13:29:54 <hadleybeeman> Daniel: Daniel Bennett, CTO for E-citizen Foundation.
Daniel Bennett: Daniel Bennett, CTO for E-citizen Foundation. ←
13:29:56 <edsu> zakim, +??P26 is edsu
Ed Summers: zakim, +??P26 is edsu ←
13:29:56 <Zakim> sorry, edsu, I do not recognize a party named '+??P26'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, edsu, I do not recognize a party named '+??P26' ←
13:30:04 <edsu> zakim, ??P26 is edsu
Ed Summers: zakim, ??P26 is edsu ←
13:30:04 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +edsu; got it ←
13:30:26 <sandro> James Forrester, UK Gov't
Sandro Hawke: James Forrester, UK Gov't ←
13:30:28 <olyerickson> I'm one of those unidentified parties...
John Erickson: I'm one of those unidentified parties... ←
13:30:32 <olyerickson> q!
John Erickson: q! ←
13:30:35 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
13:30:43 <hadleybeeman> James_F: James Forrester, digital policy for UK government. Interests: digital technology standards for helping improve standards work and privacy.
James Forrester: James Forrester, digital policy for UK government. Interests: digital technology standards for helping improve standards work and privacy. ←
13:30:51 <olyerickson> zakim, who is speaking?
John Erickson: zakim, who is speaking? ←
13:30:52 <olyerickson> m
John Erickson: m ←
13:31:01 <Zakim> olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Nig (15%), ??P3 (25%), Sandro (5%)
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Nig (15%), ??P3 (25%), Sandro (5%) ←
13:31:17 <sandro> zakim, who is speaking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is speaking? ←
13:31:28 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
13:31:31 <sandro> zakim, ??P3 is olyerickson
Sandro Hawke: zakim, ??P3 is olyerickson ←
13:31:31 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
13:31:34 <hadleybeeman> John Erickson: Dir of web science operations at RPI, project management for linked open government data work.
John Erickson: Dir of web science operations at RPI, project management for linked open government data work. ←
13:31:59 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:31:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, olyerickson, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, Nig, Daniel, edsu
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, olyerickson, ??P21, gdick, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, Nig, Daniel, edsu ←
13:32:31 <hadleybeeman> ... Goal: see this group work to make government data more accessible, usable, especially in real time for emergencies
... Goal: see this group work to make government data more accessible, usable, especially in real time for emergencies ←
13:32:48 <Daniel> Daniel Bennett, daniel@citizencontact,com CTO, eCitizen Foundation, Creating Citizen Centered Solutions, special interest in identity, standards in legislative documents,
Daniel Bennett: Daniel Bennett, daniel@citizencontact,com CTO, eCitizen Foundation, Creating Citizen Centered Solutions, special interest in identity, standards in legislative documents, ←
13:32:52 <Zakim> -gdick
Zakim IRC Bot: -gdick ←
13:33:10 <sandro> Ed Summers, web dev at US LoC
Sandro Hawke: Ed Summers, web dev at US LoC ←
13:33:15 <Daniel> hi Ed
Daniel Bennett: hi Ed ←
13:33:33 <Zakim> +gdick
Zakim IRC Bot: +gdick ←
13:33:44 <hadleybeeman> Edsu: Ed Summers, web dev at Library of Congress. Interests: data synchronisation, how to maximise that.
Ed Summers: Ed Summers, web dev at Library of Congress. Interests: data synchronisation, how to maximise that. ←
13:34:05 <sandro> zakim, ??P21 is Jeanne
Sandro Hawke: zakim, ??P21 is Jeanne ←
13:34:05 <Zakim> +Jeanne; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeanne; got it ←
13:34:19 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:34:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, olyerickson, Jeanne, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, Nig, Daniel, edsu, gdick
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see James_F, Sandro, josema, hadleybeeman, Makx, olyerickson, Jeanne, Owen, kliehm, jak88, Eyal_Sela, DaveHau, Rachel, Nig, Daniel, edsu, gdick ←
13:34:51 <Daniel> hi Rachel
Daniel Bennett: hi Rachel ←
13:35:28 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: Jeanne Holme, evangelist for data.gov, on loan from NASA. Social media, citizen-centric services for getting gov data out to people in better ways.
Jeanne Holm: Jeanne Holme, evangelist for data.gov, on loan from NASA. Social media, citizen-centric services for getting gov data out to people in better ways. ←
13:36:12 <Rachel> Hi Daniel :)
Rachel Flagg: Hi Daniel :) ←
13:36:19 <hadleybeeman> ... Goal: wants this group to help connect our governments' efforts. Also smaller groups-- we need to join efforts.
... Goal: wants this group to help connect our governments' efforts. Also smaller groups-- we need to join efforts. ←
13:37:38 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/charter-2011
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/charter-2011 ←
13:38:12 <sandro> MacTed, just use conf code 26634
Sandro Hawke: MacTed, just use conf code 26634 ←
13:38:25 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: scope: to serve as connectors of people. Not just government employees, but also advocacy groups, researchers, advisors.
Jeanne Holm: scope: to serve as connectors of people. Not just government employees, but also advocacy groups, researchers, advisors. ←
13:38:31 <Zakim> + +1.781.273.aakk
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.781.273.aakk ←
13:38:35 <MacTed> sandro - thanks
Ted Thibodeau: sandro - thanks ←
13:38:36 <Owen> Current and previous charters available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#W3C
Owen Amber: Current and previous charters available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#W3C ←
13:38:45 <MacTed> Zakim, aakk is OpenLink_Software
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, aakk is OpenLink_Software ←
13:38:45 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software; got it ←
13:38:53 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
13:38:53 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
13:38:57 <MacTed> Zakim, mute
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute ←
13:38:57 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mute', MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'mute', MacTed ←
13:38:59 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
13:38:59 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
13:39:10 <hadleybeeman> ... Because we are an interest group, we don't have set milestones but have a big opportunity to join our initiatives.
... Because we are an interest group, we don't have set milestones but have a big opportunity to join our initiatives. ←
13:40:06 <hadleybeeman> ...Example of the kinds of impact we could have: US released GPS information drove an industry that built on it in unexpected ways.
...Example of the kinds of impact we could have: US released GPS information drove an industry that built on it in unexpected ways. ←
13:40:49 <hadleybeeman> ... Also, accessibility is an area where we can make an impact. Data accessibility, web accessibility
... Also, accessibility is an area where we can make an impact. Data accessibility, web accessibility ←
13:41:22 <hadleybeeman> ... Social media. Inter-agency or gov-to-citizens
... Social media. Inter-agency or gov-to-citizens ←
13:42:17 <yuwei> yuwei: Yuwei Lin, sociologist researching free/open source software, lecturer at the University of Salford (UK) www.smmp.salford.ac.uk - I'm particularly interested in understanding how open governmental data is reused and repurposed by different individuals and groups, and the socio-technical dynamics in the process
Yuwei Lin: Yuwei Lin, sociologist researching free/open source software, lecturer at the University of Salford (UK) www.smmp.salford.ac.uk - I'm particularly interested in understanding how open governmental data is reused and repurposed by different individuals and groups, and the socio-technical dynamics in the process [ Scribe Assist by Yuwei Lin ] ←
13:42:26 <hadleybeeman> ... Community directory: need further discussion on how to build on the work done by RPI and OKFN
... Community directory: need further discussion on how to build on the work done by RPI and OKFN ←
13:43:11 <hadleybeeman> ... Education and outreach: mandated activity. LinkedIn group, w3c group.
... Education and outreach: mandated activity. LinkedIn group, w3c group. ←
13:44:13 <hadleybeeman> ... Data licensing: Creative Commons, Open Data Commons, free access to gov information. A variety of approaches here, some charging fees. We can explore these
... Data licensing: Creative Commons, Open Data Commons, free access to gov information. A variety of approaches here, some charging fees. We can explore these ←
13:45:00 <hadleybeeman> ... Other activities. Cloud computing, HTML5 pending standard coming...
... Other activities. Cloud computing, HTML5 pending standard coming... ←
13:45:48 <hadleybeeman> ... Topic includes: Open source platform for data.gov kinds of activities, in discussion in the USA, for use in other countries and to promote interoperability and interaction
... Topic includes: Open source platform for data.gov kinds of activities, in discussion in the USA, for use in other countries and to promote interoperability and interaction ←
13:46:38 <hadleybeeman> ... As an interest group, we have no set deliverables, but we can shape the group's activities.
... As an interest group, we have no set deliverables, but we can shape the group's activities. ←
13:46:58 <olyerickson> +1 to the ability of this group to cross-pollinate between W3C WG's and other groups
John Erickson: +1 to the ability of this group to cross-pollinate between W3C WG's and other groups ←
13:47:07 <hadleybeeman> W3C participation policies: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#Policies
W3C participation policies: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#Policies ←
13:47:30 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: Just trying to be fair and neutral. Shouldn't be any surprises.
Sandro Hawke: Just trying to be fair and neutral. Shouldn't be any surprises. ←
13:48:02 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is speaking
zakim, who is speaking ←
13:48:02 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is speaking', hadleybeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is speaking', hadleybeeman ←
13:48:08 <sandro> Makx,
Sandro Hawke: Makx, ←
13:48:11 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who's speaking?
zakim, who's speaking? ←
13:48:20 <sandro> hadleybeeman, it's Makx
Sandro Hawke: hadleybeeman, it's Makx ←
13:48:22 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 11 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 11 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
13:49:33 <hadleybeeman> Makx: Interested in convincing governments to want to work together. Hard without a set use case or mandate.
Makx Dekkers: Interested in convincing governments to want to work together. Hard without a set use case or mandate. ←
13:50:16 <sandro> makx: I'd like us to look at how to get governments to cooperate (internally) in data sharing.
Makx Dekkers: I'd like us to look at how to get governments to cooperate (internally) in data sharing. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
13:50:55 <hadleybeeman> ... EU: database of interoperability assets. Practical challenges.
... EU: database of interoperability assets. Practical challenges. ←
13:51:38 <hadleybeeman> Owen: Stratml should make it easier for potential partners to discover each other. Documentation of each agency's goals in machine readable format, discovery is easier.
Owen Amber: Stratml should make it easier for potential partners to discover each other. Documentation of each agency's goals in machine readable format, discovery is easier. ←
13:51:42 <gdick> +1
Gannon Dick: +1 ←
13:52:30 <hadleybeeman> Daniel Bennett: This group concentrates more on open standards, in contrast to the GLD WG who are working on ontologies.
Daniel Bennett: This group concentrates more on open standards, in contrast to the GLD WG who are working on ontologies. ←
13:54:02 <hadleybeeman> ... What we're doing should make it easier for the semantic and metadata standards groups to work in verticals like healthcare.
... What we're doing should make it easier for the semantic and metadata standards groups to work in verticals like healthcare. ←
13:54:45 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: I want to echo back the importance of a use case. Governments need a driver.
Jeanne Holm: I want to echo back the importance of a use case. Governments need a driver. ←
13:55:31 <hadleybeeman> ... Healthcare and energy might be compelling examples that cross global boundaries. These discussions will evolve; we should document potential topics in the next few weeks.
... Healthcare and energy might be compelling examples that cross global boundaries. These discussions will evolve; we should document potential topics in the next few weeks. ←
13:55:55 <James_F> Zakim, q+
James Forrester: Zakim, q+ ←
13:55:55 <Zakim> I see olyerickson, James_F on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see olyerickson, James_F on the speaker queue ←
13:56:35 <hadleybeeman> ... Our group isn't chartered to be the promotion arm for standards, but our job is to work with the existing standards groups. We should have George Thomas and Bernadette Hyland on the next call to introduce their work.
... Our group isn't chartered to be the promotion arm for standards, but our job is to work with the existing standards groups. We should have George Thomas and Bernadette Hyland on the next call to introduce their work. ←
13:57:43 <James_F> Zakim, q- olyerickson
James Forrester: Zakim, q- olyerickson ←
13:57:43 <Zakim> I see James_F on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see James_F on the speaker queue ←
13:58:01 <hadleybeeman> John Erickson: The work of the GLD WG is working on a standard vocabulary for catalogues for gov datasets and datasets within a catalogue, but an ontology is too big a term.
John Erickson: The work of the GLD WG is working on a standard vocabulary for catalogues for gov datasets and datasets within a catalogue, but an ontology is too big a term. ←
13:58:12 <edsu> sound quality bad for anyone else?
Ed Summers: sound quality bad for anyone else? ←
13:58:17 <josema> yup
José Alonso: yup ←
13:58:21 <edsu> ok :)
Ed Summers: ok :) ←
13:58:22 <sandro> yes, it's john's phone
Sandro Hawke: yes, it's john's phone ←
14:00:07 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: GLD WG came out of the eGov interest group. Many people wanted to explore RDF and linked data, and others wanted to work on other topics; we have various liaisons.
Sandro Hawke: GLD WG came out of the eGov interest group. Many people wanted to explore RDF and linked data, and others wanted to work on other topics; we have various liaisons. ←
14:00:48 <hadleybeeman> ... We can explore broader liaisons and people who crossover groups or who are willing to act as liaisons.
... We can explore broader liaisons and people who crossover groups or who are willing to act as liaisons. ←
14:01:51 <hadleybeeman> ... We can contact any group via their standard mailing list, or contact the chairs if necessary.
... We can contact any group via their standard mailing list, or contact the chairs if necessary. ←
14:02:16 <gdick> Must leave soon. Car Trouble. I'm calling from a temp office on a Texas back road.
Gannon Dick: Must leave soon. Car Trouble. I'm calling from a temp office on a Texas back road. ←
14:02:50 <hadleybeeman> topic: goals and outcomes for the group
14:03:38 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: There is scope for us expanding the group's goals and outcomes based on what we're interested in.
Jeanne Holm: There is scope for us expanding the group's goals and outcomes based on what we're interested in. ←
14:05:08 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: we seem to have lost a number of participants on IRC
Sandro Hawke: we seem to have lost a number of participants on IRC ←
14:05:16 <kliehm> Makx mentioned Europeana - http://europeana.eu - collecting the metadata of European cultural heritage
Martin Kliehm: Makx mentioned Europeana - http://europeana.eu - collecting the metadata of European cultural heritage ←
14:06:49 <hadleybeeman> Jeff Kaplan: General suggestion: many governments have difficulty translating technical activities into policies.
Jeff Kaplan: General suggestion: many governments have difficulty translating technical activities into policies. ←
14:07:04 <Zakim> -gdick
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14:07:19 <kliehm> q+
Martin Kliehm: q+ ←
14:07:20 <hadleybeeman> ... Outputs of a group like this may not be absorbed. Therefore, we should make sure that there is some way to translate what we do into policy.
... Outputs of a group like this may not be absorbed. Therefore, we should make sure that there is some way to translate what we do into policy. ←
14:07:33 <josema> +1 and fully inline with bridging policy and technology as I mentioned before
José Alonso: +1 and fully inline with bridging policy and technology as I mentioned before ←
14:07:51 <hadleybeeman> Daniel: We should continue to have an editorial board to remove geek-speak from documents, make it easy to understand for policy-makers.
Daniel Bennett: We should continue to have an editorial board to remove geek-speak from documents, make it easy to understand for policy-makers. ←
14:10:39 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: HTML5 and accessibility are examples of standards that need feedback from government. We shouldn't just be one-way from technology to government.
Jeanne Holm: HTML5 and accessibility are examples of standards that need feedback from government. We shouldn't just be one-way from technology to government. ←
14:11:20 <kliehm> ack J
Martin Kliehm: ack J ←
14:11:28 <hadleybeeman> James_F: I'd be interested in exploring governments being members of the W3C, rather than just an agency or department.
James Forrester: I'd be interested in exploring governments being members of the W3C, rather than just an agency or department. ←
14:12:31 <hadleybeeman> Hadleybeeman +1 to james_F
Hadleybeeman +1 to james_F ←
14:13:12 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: This came out of the GLD WG as well, I've had discussions with W3C management. Maybe we should arrange a separate conversation on this?
Sandro Hawke: This came out of the GLD WG as well, I've had discussions with W3C management. Maybe we should arrange a separate conversation on this? ←
14:13:29 <hadleybeeman> James_F: I'd be interested in that conversation.
James Forrester: I'd be interested in that conversation. ←
14:14:28 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: I spoke to Karen Myers from W3C Membership at the last W3C meeting on this. The problem is that there are so many divisions of government, makes it more difficult for many of those groups to get formally involved.
Jeanne Holm: I spoke to Karen Myers from W3C Membership at the last W3C meeting on this. The problem is that there are so many divisions of government, makes it more difficult for many of those groups to get formally involved. ←
14:14:36 <citizencontact> ah back on IRC
Daniel Bennett: ah back on IRC ←
14:14:36 <sandro> q?
Sandro Hawke: q? ←
14:14:40 <kliehm> ack k
Martin Kliehm: ack k ←
14:15:26 <josema> q+ to talk about focus and my broader goal!
José Alonso: q+ to talk about focus and my broader goal! ←
14:15:31 <Zakim> -Eyal_Sela
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14:15:41 <citizencontact> go piratepad
Daniel Bennett: go piratepad ←
14:15:56 <Zakim> -DaveHau
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14:16:10 <olyerickson> I've re-joined via real IRC client...
John Erickson: I've re-joined via real IRC client... ←
14:17:14 <hadleybeeman> kliehm: Translating geek-speak to people who are non-geek: has encountered this before. Convincing colleagues can be a challenge, but it's important to get all the stakeholders together.
Martin Kliehm: Translating geek-speak to people who are non-geek: has encountered this before. Convincing colleagues can be a challenge, but it's important to get all the stakeholders together. ←
14:17:23 <citizencontact> We should have examples of using standards for publishing. I am working on using HTML5 to show how SVG can be web accessible and data friendly graphics for govt docs
Daniel Bennett: We should have examples of using standards for publishing. I am working on using HTML5 to show how SVG can be web accessible and data friendly graphics for govt docs ←
14:18:24 <citizencontact> thanks hadley, will post them to the group. (Daniel)
Daniel Bennett: thanks hadley, will post them to the group. (Daniel) ←
14:18:50 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: Stories or checklists of ways to get started could be very useful. Perhaps a resource list, or summaries of the expertise represented in this group, recommendations and lessons learnt -- put together in usable ways -- would be a powerful deliverable.
Jeanne Holm: Stories or checklists of ways to get started could be very useful. Perhaps a resource list, or summaries of the expertise represented in this group, recommendations and lessons learnt -- put together in usable ways -- would be a powerful deliverable. ←
14:19:03 <josema> q?
José Alonso: q? ←
14:19:24 <kliehm> ack j
Martin Kliehm: ack j ←
14:19:24 <Zakim> josema, you wanted to talk about focus and my broader goal!
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, you wanted to talk about focus and my broader goal! ←
14:19:34 <citizencontact> hi jose. great to hear from you.
Daniel Bennett: hi jose. great to hear from you. ←
14:20:21 <hadleybeeman> Josema: the goal of the Web Foundation's open data work is to be a local, sustainable community, esp in the low and middle income countries. Transfer knowledge and practice from more developed countries.
José Alonso: the goal of the Web Foundation's open data work is to help grow local, sustainable community, esp in the low and middle income countries. Transfer knowledge and practice from more developed countries. ←
14:21:14 <citizencontact> another idea is to look at harder, but very important, ideas to translate to the web, especially identity
Daniel Bennett: another idea is to look at harder, but very important, ideas to translate to the web, especially identity ←
14:21:41 <hadleybeeman> ... Developing countries may need more skills, like building web apps. I'm interested in building lists of what they need to see how we can help.
... Developing countries may need more skills, like building web apps. I'm interested in building lists of what they need to see how we can help. ←
14:21:42 <olyerickson> +1 to "toolkits," patterns, etc to help countries publish and help citizens consume data
John Erickson: +1 to "toolkits," patterns, etc to help countries publish and help citizens consume data ←
14:21:54 <citizencontact> +1 jose
Daniel Bennett: +1 jose ←
14:22:02 <olyerickson> This is an interest area of TWC RPI
John Erickson: This is an interest area of TWC RPI ←
14:23:04 <hadleybeeman> Topic: the future interaction of the group
14:23:06 <josema> s/to be a local/to help grow local
14:23:18 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: monthly meetings on the third tuesday of each month.
Jeanne Holm: monthly meetings on the third tuesday of each month. ←
14:23:32 <citizencontact> ok for monthly meetings if there is homework between meetings
Daniel Bennett: ok for monthly meetings if there is homework between meetings ←
14:23:46 <hadleybeeman> ... TPAC coming up-- face to face opportunity for us.
... TPAC coming up-- face to face opportunity for us. ←
14:24:06 <olyerickson> http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/
John Erickson: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/ ←
14:24:08 <josema> and if my calendar is right, next one should be on Sept, 20th, and I could not attend (OGP event in NYC, anybody else going?)
José Alonso: and if my calendar is right, next one should be on Sept, 20th, and I could not attend (OGP event in NYC, anybody else going?) ←
14:24:09 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: It's w3C's big annual meeting, this year in Santa Clara, California. We're scheduled to meet 31 oct and 1 Nov.
Sandro Hawke: It's w3C's big annual meeting, this year in Santa Clara, California. We're scheduled to meet 31 oct and 1 Nov. ←
14:24:20 <hadleybeeman> ... Wed is the plenary session -- 2 nov
... Wed is the plenary session -- 2 nov ←
14:24:33 <James_F> http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/
James Forrester: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/ ←
14:24:35 <citizencontact> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/
Daniel Bennett: http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/ ←
14:25:08 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: this group is not listed on registration yet-- will be fixed later today. Registration deadline is coming up, now is the time to look into travel arrangements.
Sandro Hawke: this group is not listed on registration yet-- will be fixed later today. Registration deadline is coming up, now is the time to look into travel arrangements. ←
14:25:40 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: More in-depth conversations for this group will take place there.
Jeanne Holm: More in-depth conversations for this group will take place there. ←
14:25:55 <hadleybeeman> Sandro: We may have a face-to-face meeting after 6 mos, if there is interest in the group.
Sandro Hawke: We may have a face-to-face meeting after 6 mos, if there is interest in the group. ←
14:26:31 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: OKFN 21-22 Oct Open Government Data Camp. We can possibly arrange a meeting around that too, if it's convenient,
Jeanne Holm: OKFN 21-22 Oct Open Government Data Camp. We can possibly arrange a meeting around that too, if it's convenient, ←
14:26:45 <hadleybeeman> ... in Warsaw, Poland.
... in Warsaw, Poland. ←
14:27:26 <citizencontact> thanks hadley
Daniel Bennett: thanks hadley ←
14:27:39 <hadleybeeman> No problem :)
No problem :) ←
14:27:50 <josema> thanks hadley!
José Alonso: thanks hadley! ←
14:27:58 <Makx> Is there a mailing list for this group?
Makx Dekkers: Is there a mailing list for this group? ←
14:28:10 <sandro> yes, public-egov-ig@w3.org
Sandro Hawke: yes, public-egov-ig@w3.org ←
14:28:11 <citizencontact> can someone put together a calendar for group of these related events?
Daniel Bennett: can someone put together a calendar for group of these related events? ←
14:28:23 <sandro> send "subscribe" to public-egov-ig-request@w3.org to subscribe.
Sandro Hawke: send "subscribe" to public-egov-ig-request@w3.org to subscribe. ←
14:28:25 <hadleybeeman> Jeanne: Next steps: Bernadette and George from GLD WG to join us for the next meeting, to address a few of the topics we've brought put today.
Jeanne Holm: Next steps: Bernadette and George from GLD WG to join us for the next meeting, to address a few of the topics we've brought out today. ←
14:28:41 <hadleybeeman> s/put/out
14:29:28 <citizencontact> thanks Jeanne
Daniel Bennett: thanks Jeanne ←
14:29:31 <James_F> Thanks all.
James Forrester: Thanks all. ←
14:29:32 <hadleybeeman> Thanks, all!
Thanks, all! ←
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