Meeting minutes
XR Accessibility User Requirements: issues.
jasonjgw: Made editorial review and edits to a branch on GitHub
jasonjgw: Also opened a number of issues; Josh will review when he returns from holiday
jasonjgw: List of issues are linked to the meeting agenda
WebXR Layers API level 1 review.
jasonjgw: Will need to postpone discussion until Josh is her
judy: Is there a timing framework for this?
<Raja> API captions -- is there a link to it?
janina: Will need to coordinate with Josh next week when he returns
janina: There has been no APA action to this point; it is an early document
jasonjgw: There is a link to the API in the meeting agenda
Accessibility of Remote Meetings.
<Raja> Thanks -- I'll read this prior to next week meeting
<scott_h> Remote meetings wiki https://
scott_h: We started with a Wiki, where we put in sections
scott_h: Sections such as need for procurement, how to deliver remote meetings, different types of platforms, etc.
scott_h: We added a lot of definitions
scott_h: It would be good to have people review the new structure on the wiki
scott_h: Suggest that we all can add more content if that is needed
scott_h: Also examine the appendix, and consider if anything there should be merged into the main document
<Raja> What is the process for editing? Like regular wikipedia?
scott_h: One focus we suggest in particular is what we say about immersive captions
<scott_h> • Behaviours "pin" a number of people, not just one person.
<scott_h> ** where would it go? how do you handle multiple people
<scott_h> ** allow ability to move the captions, don't force it at a single place
<Raja> Also, want to see spatial locations preserved
<Raja> it is important for gestures and sign communication
judy: there could be several different windows a user may want to pin
judy: users need to know how to do this pinning - should be obvious to users
Raja: it would be good to have a common layout
Raja: Either a pin or a layout that remains the same
scott_h: The layout of screens will not be the same for everyone, so this could be a problem
Judy: In some situations, people will want to customize their personal layout
Judy: So, maybe giving people several options and user choice?
janina: Three considerations
janina: Maybe a standard configuration; could be a defaulyt that allows users to modify
janina: Important that the user can pin some windows that always remain in place
janina: There may also be a need to support multiple monotors
Judy: When people go on/off video mute, Zoom will downgrade people who are not using their camera
Raja: It would help to have a standard layout for a smaller group
Raja: Large meetings are more difficult
scott_h: What about leeting the meeting host set this up?
Raja: That could help, but may be too much for the host to manage
scott_h: Don't think this is available in current platforms, but this might be recommended
janina: Don't think making the host responsible is the best choice; let the users do this
Judy: +1 to Janina
Judy: Pinning windows and controlling this behavior may take some time to resolve
Raja: In a small group meeting, the same layout is possible
scott_h: Let's look at the next point
<scott_h> • Incorporate captioning into products
<scott_h> ** where would it go? how do you handle multiple people
<scott_h> ** allow ability to move the captions, don't force it at a single place
<Zakim> janina, you wanted to agree that the host may not be the best arbiter of positioning
<Raja> There is a default expectation of captions at bottom center of screen. and to allow user to move captions
Judy: Did we mean caption in meeting platforms?
Judy: Font size of captions is often too small to see; should be able to resize
janina: should be also to have a high contrast mode
<Raja> Yes, users should be able to adjust size, contrast, etc. Isn't that already in general caption guidelines?
janina: There may be a lot of wording in the MAUR we could use
<Raja> For XR, the new thing is the addition of the third dimension (z axis)
<scott_h> * • Allowing superimposition of a/few windows, like a captions window
scott_h: What use case are we talking about?
Judy: This may refer to people who want to position in a side window.
Raja: We need more guidance on 3D
Raja: This is for online meetings and XR?
Judy: This is about online meetings; not XR
Raja: For internet meetings, where captions are and being able to pin them for the person speaking
Raja: How to identify who is speaking
Raja: If captions move, it is hard to follow, so that is another concern
scott_h: So giving the user the ability to set this will be best
Judy: Adjust size of different windows
Judy: a way for the individual to modify this (e.g., have the speaker window larger)
Judy: Next item deals with obfuscating objectionable language - this is likely not in scope
jasonjgw: +1
Judy: Item about low bandwidth
Judy: Unsure if there is a realistic way to enforce bandwidth requirements
scott_h: Perhaps the ability to prioritize audio, video, captions
jasonjgw: Work is ongoing on natural language processing
jasonjgw: Continuing progress on the media synchronization document as well