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<Joshue108> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rgFnLByk/
<Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/53
<Joshue108> Usability and affordances examples? #53
josh: usability and affordances example
idea of adding exampes
idea - different modes need to be n sync
so what happens in one is translated into another
jason: convers into a user requiremnt?
josH; could be a requiremnt as well,
if we're able to build abstractions, sense they rely n
could be like a browser refresh -
may have similar issue in XR that needs to be mapped between abstractions, parallel of same shared virtual experience
jason: yes, concept is that what one user does with input/output arrangements
needs to be reflected for other users
if its multi-user, important to be able to observe effects by others
can be tricky - even 2D collaborative tools can be tricky to convey collaboration efforts of others
josh: all agree?
jason: yes
janina: yes
... may want to follow some acitons and not others,
may want configurable filter
josh: confirmed have discussed, will update in Github and take aciton
jason: nex up - 54
<Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/54
<Joshue108> Introduce idea of AT and content design working together?
section on voice commands, need exiting AT to work with XR to avoid reinvention
is it within XAUR to proivde context on larger AT?
seems to be a comment on user expeirence -
janina: accessibility if its not easily usable, problem
jason: I quesiton: "what needs to be pub in place ot make this possible" and
"what is teh underlying user requirmenet with respect to their experience?"
if articulared, coudlbe noted in document
josh: use of 'content design', very broad
Don't think at this point can proivde any quick requirement,
see as we progress with concrete needs see what we can do
janina: Silver could potentially define it
josh: sounds good
jason: woudl like to review when its a draft change
josh: 55 next
related to requriements for shape and colour
<Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/55
<Joshue108> Add requirement for shape as well as color be used? #55
original cmments: sahpe shoudl be defined as well as colour,
josh responded just shape
<Joshue108> http://gameaccessibilityguidelines.com/ensure-no-essential-information-is-conveyed-by-a-colour-alone/
feedback was an exmaple from Game Accessibility Guidelines not using colour alone
best practice exmaple: info conveyed visually but doesn't rely on colour to convey meaning
2 ways to extend: symantec or input into the area for cognitive impariment
textual/shape to support cognitive
item closed, referred to 74
now 65
suggestions: XR feedback supplementing alterantive queues
<Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/65
<Joshue108> For XR Feedback Supplementing Alternative Cues #65
as VR is base don movement, more haptic feedback fo rbutton/menu use,
cursor focus for mutiple contorls, reduced mtion/speed ptions
expanded on safe space controls
are for closed captions,
scott: lot to unpack but seems covered
josh; save controls good,
josh: will review
two left!
75 - gestural interface interacitons
<Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/75
<Joshue108> 4.10 Gestural interfaces and interactions: allow for "remapping" of gestures #75
jason: associating differnet actions iwth different input types?
josh: yes
asked for some clarification,
ability to remap a gesture
asked to expand on idea, response about rempping game controllers
gestural remapping
jason: interesting in an XR envrionment, - actiign secondary menu,s, change input gestures
and have a very large vareity of options
how you do the rempaping isn't quite as obvious
josh: dynamic remapping? renap for requriement x to do certian things
<Joshue108> SH: This is like a virtual switch key
<Joshue108> remapped on the fly
scott: like switch key support, on-the-fly remapping
josh: virtual switch key remapping
just flag the user need, how that's odne can be identified in the gaming evrnioment
jason: yes, user need is able to employ gestures to carry out actiosn offered by envrionment
josh: yes
jjason: so that involves changing defaults to achieve task
one to go
<Joshue108> ttps://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/76
76 - ability to control object announcement
meta info relating to vertical positioning,
if user detect height off the ground
context-dependent
jason: already discussed, said some info shoudl be provided and querying abilit to obtain more information
josh; yes, already ahve that.
all good
First pass completed!
<Joshue108> :-)
jason: thank you Josh and eveyrone for discussing and adding insights/ideas
We should do the same with RTC open issues
josh: will consider next steps, either next week or week after
jason: there were some changes with relaitonshp and role of Web RTC
judy: several additional pices of work,
scott: can we take an action to review?
jason: briefly loked at it last
week
... let's look at outstanding times for next week, close as
much as possible
judy: suggest circulaitng RTC
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