13:27:53 RRSAgent has joined #silver 13:27:53 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/09/08-silver-irc 13:27:55 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:27:58 Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference 13:27:58 Date: 08 September 2017 13:28:15 chair: jeanne 13:28:22 regrets+ Shawn 13:28:30 agenda+ Silver Surveys Strategy update 13:28:30 agenda+ Interviews Proposal 13:28:30 agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review 13:28:40 zakim, clear agenda 13:28:40 agenda cleared 13:28:45 agenda? 13:28:48 agenda+ Silver Surveys Strategy update 13:28:48 agenda+ Interviews Proposal 13:28:48 agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review 13:32:53 sloandr has joined #silver 13:36:46 SarahHorton has joined #silver 13:37:18 trackbot, start meeting 13:37:21 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:37:24 Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference 13:37:24 Date: 08 September 2017 13:37:33 zakim, clear agenda 13:37:33 agenda cleared 13:37:35 agenda? 13:37:45 agenda+ Silver Surveys Strategy update 13:37:52 agenda+ Interviews Proposal 13:38:00 agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review 13:38:10 zakim, take up item 1 13:38:11 agendum 1. "Silver Surveys Strategy update" taken up [from SarahHorton] 13:38:42 present+ Jeanne, Sarah, Dave, Jan 13:38:48 Jan has joined #silver 13:39:00 present+ JanMcSorley 13:41:08 Groups reviews conformance model interview structure 13:41:35 Dave: Refine this approach, use for other interviews 13:43:28 s/interview structure/survey structure 13:43:44 s/other interviews/other surveys 13:47:21 Jan: Will we have targeted surveys to specific roles? 13:47:50 Dave: Hope this will emerge as we work through questions 13:48:08 Dave: Document available for revision and editing offline 13:49:51 present+ Jennison 13:50:09 present+ Jemma 13:50:54 jemma has joined #silver 13:54:21 Jemma: We need to clarify what we mean when we talk about conformance 13:54:40 Jeanne: A, AA, AAA — all or nothing conformance 13:55:01 Jeanne: It's the structure that's set up to say whether or not people pass 13:55:18 Jeanne: Need to conform or be N/A 13:56:35 Jeanne: Part of reason WCAG accepted around the world, clear and flexible 13:59:38 Dave: Questions can include "I don't know what this means" option 14:01:34 present+ JaeunJemmaKu 14:01:48 Jeanne: Want to understand impact of conformance model 14:04:24 Jeanne: We now have option of not having conformance model 14:05:02 Dave: Need to make sure we focus on exploratory research 14:06:47 Jennison: Will we have a scale in asking "how effective" questions 14:07:39 Jennison: Effective, meets needs? 14:10:35 Dave: Conformance model versus guidelines, need to make sure people respond about the conformance model 14:12:31 Jeanne: Could ask specific questions related to A, AA, AAA rather than "conformance model" 14:15:07 Jeanne: May need to leave some open ended 14:16:11 Jeanne: Things technologically difficulty in 2008, things that were not readily testable, went into AAA 14:17:32 Dave: Need to learn more about SCs at AAA 14:18:07 Dave: What's best way for digital resource providers to declare conformance 14:18:52 Jemma: Likes suggestion of referencing A, AA, AA rather than conformance model 14:22:08 Sarah: How do we deal with scope and time? 14:22:33 Jennison: Big challenge with multiple releases in a day 14:23:43 Jennison: Will these be surveys or interviews? 14:24:15 Dave: Surveys initially, but if some questions are too difficult can designate for interviews 14:24:38 Jennison: Thinking about analysis and results 14:25:51 Dave: With each question, think about type of response and whether we can produce something meaningful 14:26:23 Dave: Exploratory survey, data is more difficult to analyze 14:27:30 Jennison: Are these surveys this group will adminster? 14:27:39 Jeanne: These are ones we are going to do 14:28:07 Dave: Prioritized research questions, identified questions that would work with surveys 14:28:21 Dave: Still have to be reasonable with available time 14:28:52 Dave: Creating process to take research question into sub-questions 14:29:11 Jemma: Do we have schedule/timeframe? 14:29:55 Jeanne: Doing prototype work in March 14:30:07 Jeanne: Research written up in February 14:30:14 Jeanne: Research done in November 14:31:11 Jemma: What is activity at TPAC in November? 14:31:34 Jennison: Opportunity to ask research questions, that time is open to how we want to use it 14:32:27 Dave: Questions are ready to be asked in any forum 14:32:50 Jennison: Should put TPAC meeting on agenda for future meeting 14:33:21 Jennison: What do need to know for prototyping exercise at CSUN 14:34:10 Jennison: Can we push of reseach questions that we don't need to prototyping 14:34:31 s/reseach/research 14:36:44 Sarah: Can we figure out what questions we need to answer to use for prototyping exercise 14:37:45 Sarah: Pull together everything we have for the prototype exercise 14:37:56 Jeanne: Add to agenda next Friday 14:38:43 Dave: Good to think about priorities for prototyping exercise 14:38:55 Dave: Will help us focus time 14:42:46 Sarah: Even a few perspectives will be helpful to provide context 14:43:07 Sarah: Listening lab approach works, themes surface 14:43:29 Jennison: Bay area meeting could be a good context for listening session 14:43:54 Jennison: With CSUN session fall before or after conference? 14:44:12 s/With/Will 14:45:14 Jennison: Need to publicize so people can make travel plans 14:46:22 Jan: Klaus wants to do special edition of journal, might be opportunity to get research published 14:47:31 Jan: CSUN scientific journal to help support Silver taskforce 14:48:15 Jan: Doesn't have timeline, have not met yet 14:48:49 http://www.csun.edu/cod/journal 14:48:55 Jan: This would be a special edition 14:50:21 Dave: Add more comments and suggestions to conformance model questions 14:50:47 Dave: Have translators ready to go 14:52:08 rrsagent, make minutes 14:52:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/08-silver-minutes.html jemma 14:52:29 rrsgaent, make log public