12:01:31 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:01:31 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/05/31-wot-irc 12:01:32 present+ Michael_McCool 12:01:44 ohura has joined #wot 12:02:39 dape has joined #wot 12:02:41 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Barry_Leiba, Kris_Borchers, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:03:23 present+ Niklas_Widell 12:03:34 mjkoster has joined #wot 12:03:42 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:03:46 naka has joined #wot 12:04:22 Chair: McCool 12:04:44 mm: many people are on vacation this week 12:04:50 ... but would give some update 12:05:17 yingying has joined #wot 12:05:28 scribenick: mjkoster 12:05:37 (Michael Koster, please reply to the IANA message about CoAp Option Numbers) 12:05:38 scribe: Michael_Koster 12:05:52 Agenda approved 12:05:56 present+ Zoltan_Kis 12:05:58 present+ Zoltan_Kis 12:06:09 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda 12:06:25 Liaison TF ans Linked Data TF met this week 12:06:25 nwidell has joined #wot 12:06:35 s/Liaison/OCF Liaison/ 12:06:47 s/ans/and/ 12:07:10 mccool: working on demo for dusseldorf based on OCF Smart Home demo 12:07:37 present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka, Masato_Ohura, Takeshi_Yamada 12:07:48 mccool: layering node-wot on iotivity-node 12:08:24 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:08:27 mccool: working on OCF data model description in a friendly format 12:08:37 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_OCF_Liaison_WebConf OCF Liaison TF wiki 12:09:01 s/Linked Data TF/Scripting TF/ 12:09:03 zoltan: scripting TF summary 12:09:45 zoltan: follow up from Osaka F2F, architecture diagram refinement 12:10:00 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2017May/0030.html Johannes's summary 12:10:10 DarkoAnicic has joined #wot 12:10:19 present+ DarkoAnicic 12:10:21 zoltan: discussion of container security (for running scripts) 12:10:36 present+ Yingying_Chen 12:10:43 zoltan: protocol bindings may need to be isolated 12:10:55 zoltan: no changes to the API 12:12:02 zoltan: need hardware support for the best security 12:12:15 ktoumura has joined #wot 12:13:00 present+ Yingying_Chen 12:13:15 rrsagent, make log public 12:13:50 achille_zappa has joined #wot 12:13:50 q+ 12:14:36 mccool: may not support running scripts in harware that doesn't have security support 12:14:53 present+ Niklas_Widell 12:15:10 mccool: don't lose track of this thread, create a github issue for it 12:15:12 present+ Johannes_Hund 12:15:32 jhund has joined #wot 12:15:45 ack k 12:15:55 mccool: security-based constraints on architecture - limit the feature set wrt hw security support 12:16:33 zoltan: will file an issue on implementation recommendations 12:17:02 i|don't lose|kaz: do we want to feedback our discussion/requirements for the architecture to the architecture draft itself?| 12:17:29 rrsagent, make log public 12:17:32 darko: linked data TF report 12:17:51 rrsagent, draft niutes 12:17:51 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft niutes', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 12:17:57 darko: want to participate in the dusseldorf PF 12:17:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:17:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/31-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:18:04 s/rrsagent, draft niutes// 12:18:30 present+ Kazuaki_Nimura 12:18:39 darko: 3 workstreams: LD for WoT applications and semantic model for cross-ecosystem discovery 12:18:57 meeting: WoT IG/WG 12:19:02 darko: starting with OCF and an interoperability client that reads semantic descriptions 12:19:25 darko: 2. work on recipes that are TD based 12:19:33 i/working on demo/topic: OCF Liaison TF/ 12:19:46 darko: 3. semantic processing for WoT, starting with validation 12:19:49 i/scripting TF summary/topic: Scripting TF/ 12:20:03 i/linked data TF report/topic: LD TF/ 12:20:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:20:07 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/31-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:20:09 darko: also could demonstrate enhanced discovery using semantic processing 12:20:50 darko: could demonstrate reasoning in discovery based on descriptive constraints 12:21:03 (hope I capture it properly) 12:22:03 mccool: OCF input will be provided from mccool and mjkoster 12:22:08 -> https://www.w3.org/2017/05/26-wot-minutes.html TF-LD minutes 12:22:37 s/LD TF/TF-LD/ 12:23:06 topic: TD TF 12:23:39 daniel: thing description TF report 12:23:50 daniel: working on serialization formats 12:23:57 daniel: text and binary 12:24:14 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/images/9/95/Td_summary_osaka.pdf Sebastian's summary 12:24:35 daniel: they need examples of practical TD files for analysis, please send them or publish them 12:25:31 mccool: we should keep and archive TDs that have been contributed 12:25:59 daniel: dsr working on JSON examples of TD serialization 12:27:21 kaz: publish each TD specification after the F2F as a working draft along with examples 12:27:27 http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-osaka-2017.html 12:27:29 s/publish/we can publish/ 12:27:54 s/with examples/as well as the Current Practices document/ 12:28:57 kaz: maybe the IG can publich implementation notes and the WG can publish working drafts 12:29:02 tokuyama has joined #wot 12:29:21 s/implementation notes/the current practices document as an IG Note/ 12:29:21 zoltan: need binding templates 12:29:41 s/WG can publish/WG can publish TD snapshots as/ 12:30:33 kaz: we can start another repo for binding template draft 12:30:52 p+ 12:30:56 q? 12:30:59 zoltan: there is a place in the TD repos for bindings now 12:31:00 q+ 12:31:31 mccool: propose making a repo under TD 12:32:11 mccool: a sub-directory 12:32:42 q+ 12:32:44 johannes: need to develop the agreement about what information is needed 12:32:45 s/making a repo/a subdirectory/ 12:33:01 s/a subdirectory/making a subdirectory/ 12:33:03 johannes: need one example of a current TD 12:33:09 q? 12:33:31 q- 12:33:39 ack dape 12:33:45 http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#protocol-bindings 12:36:19 daniel: on which level is the protocol binding expected to be ? 12:36:50 mccool: can mjkoster make a PR that clarifies this question? 12:37:01 q+ 12:38:35 mjkoster: describe WoT implicit bindings vs. adaptation layer bindings like OCF 12:39:23 mccool: evolve the binding toward specification 12:40:30 q+ 12:40:37 kaz: mjkoster, do you want to proceed with binding discussion as part of the TD TF? 12:40:37 ack k 12:40:53 mjkoster: keep the discussion with TD 12:41:06 mccool: but where does the discussion take place? 12:41:35 mccool: start by getting TD hashed out and written down 12:42:40 mccool: we could start as a sub-document of TD 12:42:57 topic: Dusseldorf f2f 12:43:13 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_9-13_July_2017,_D%C3%BCsseldorf,_Germany f2f wiki 12:43:37 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201707/ registration 12:43:51 mccool: register by June 12 12:46:19 mccool: shpuld have hotel info soon 12:46:26 mccool: also please add topics for the meeting on the wiki 12:46:35 s/shpuld/should/ 12:47:17 topic: AOB 12:47:58 jh: won't make the next Scripting meeting on June 5 12:48:03 johannes: reschedule to Monday the 12th 12:48:22 i/johannes:/zk: asks about security discussion/ 12:49:05 zoltan: what are next steps for specification of the TD elements of a protocol binding for OCF 12:49:33 mccool: create a PR for the example and start describing 12:49:41 q+ 12:52:01 yingying_ has joined #wot 12:52:38 mccool: reuse the OCF liaison call to work on the protocol binding examples 12:52:59 i/mccool:/kaz: which slot to be used for that discussion?/ 12:53:03 mccool: could we have items to review by the next meeting? 12:54:16 mccool: first PF by the TD meeting on Friday? 12:54:29 s/PF/PR 12:54:40 s/Friday/Friday, June 2/ 12:54:50 s/PR/pullrequest/ 12:55:28 mccool: adjourn 12:55:31 present- 12:55:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:55:43 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/31-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:55:50 barryleiba has left #wot 12:56:10 present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama 12:56:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:56:11 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/31-wot-minutes.html kaz 15:13:12 Zakim has left #wot