IRC log of wot on 2017-01-25
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- present+ DarkoAnicic
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Daniel_Peintner, Darko_Anicic, Dave_Raggett, Johannes_Hund, Kirby_Shabaga, Takuki_Kamiya, Yongjing_Zhang
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- regrets+ Michael_McCool
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- present+ Masato_Ohura
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- present+ Matthias_Kovatsch, Sebastian_Kaebisch
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- https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_25_January_2017
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- present+ Kazuaki_Nimura
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- scribenick: mjkoster
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- https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_25_January_2017
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- present +Matthias_Kovatsch
- 13:10:41 [kaz]
- Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_25_January_2017
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- present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
- 13:11:02 [mkovatsc]
- http://doodle.com/poll/m3pxukezic7itd7e
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- present+ Takeshi_Yamada
- 13:11:22 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: Dusseldorf F2F link for doodle poll
- 13:11:23 [kaz]
- s|http:|-> http:|
- 13:11:42 [dsr]
- Draft charter https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/TF-LD_charter.md
- 13:11:47 [mjkoster]
- Dave: Semantic TF
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- Linked Data and Semantic Interoperability
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- s|7e|7e Doodle for the F2F in Germany|
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 13:12:58 [mkovatsc]
- q?
- 13:13:10 [mjkoster]
- dave: explains the charter
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- Chair: Matthias, Yongjing
- 13:13:25 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 13:14:04 [mjkoster]
- dave: where should the documents go?
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- q?
- 13:14:26 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: create a new area in github
- 13:15:07 [kaz]
- i|Doodle|topic: Dusseldolf F2F date|
- 13:15:31 [kaz]
- i|Draft charter|topic: Semantic TF proposal|
- 13:15:42 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: F2F: please register and make invitations to colleagues
- 13:15:46 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201602/results
- 13:16:04 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: approximately 30 registered
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- i|mkovatsc:|topic: Santa Clara F2F|
- 13:16:18 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 13:16:35 [kaz]
- s|results|results Santa Clara F2F registration results|
- 13:16:36 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: looking for more participants from the area
- 13:16:37 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 13:16:39 [yongjing]
- q+
- 13:16:50 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: WG-IG split questions came up
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- Meeting: WoT IG/WG
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 13:17:32 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: IG will be the main thread, last day will be for planning the transfer and operational split
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- q?
- 13:18:21 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2016/12/wot-wg-2016.html#deliverables WG deliverables
- 13:18:24 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: please volunteer also
- 13:18:47 [kaz]
- s/volunteer/volunteer for Editors/
- 13:19:55 [kaz]
- present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka, Ryuichi_Matsukura
- 13:20:26 [kaz]
- present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama
- 13:22:13 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: items for breakouts - REST API vs. program API
- 13:23:03 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Agenda Santa Clara F2F agenda proposal
- 13:23:34 [mjkoster]
- dave: metadata requirements for different platforms to decouple applications from platforms
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- dave: relates to bindings and templates
- 13:23:59 [mkovatsc]
- q?
- 13:24:09 [kaz]
- ack y
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- mkovatsc: linking, for example a collection linking a room to its devices
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- ack yongjing
- 13:25:01 [mjkoster]
- mkoster: will take that subject of links and collections
- 13:25:35 [mkovatsc]
- https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Input_Breakout_Topics
- 13:25:45 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: moderators for topics above look at the link
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- s|https|-> https|
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- s|Topics|Topics Breakout Topic proposals|
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- q?
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- mkovatsc: moderators contact the people involved to get questions and discussion ahead of time
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- mkovatsc: topic: plugfest
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- mkovatsc: table is rough and missing some entries
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- https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Participation
- 13:29:51 [kaz]
- q+
- 13:30:07 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: please complete the table
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- s|https|-> https|
- 13:30:31 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: plugfest will go Monday through Tuesday morning
- 13:30:48 [kaz]
- s|Participation|Participation PlugFest Participation|
- 13:31:18 [mkovatsc]
- q?
- 13:31:23 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: keep the testing methodology to evaluate and record items found
- 13:31:43 [kaz]
- ack k
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- kaz: asked Zoltan to clarify Intel entry
- 13:32:06 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: any more questions?
- 13:32:55 [mjkoster]
- kaz: where is the link to the table
- 13:33:03 [mkovatsc]
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2016-beijing
- 13:33:09 [mjkoster]
- sebastian: the Beijing folder has test cases
- 13:33:56 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: should read and write properties and invoke actions for coverage
- 13:34:03 [katsu]
- q+
- 13:34:15 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-beijing/TestCaseCoverage.xlsx Test Case Coverage table
- 13:35:05 [mjkoster]
- sebastial: implementers should discover and interact with things using these test cases, record pass/fail results and note problems
- 13:35:33 [mjkoster]
- s/sebastial/sebastian/
- 13:36:13 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: will need to determine if results may be publicly shared based on participants needs
- 13:36:41 [kaz]
- [ PlugFest template link was broken. so I've just fixed it. ]
- 13:36:54 [mjkoster]
- katsu: how can we sunchronize time zones with Osaka?
- 13:37:27 [kaz]
- 7 hours
- 13:37:57 [kaz]
- 9am US Pacific is 2am+1d in Japan
- 13:37:59 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: 7 hours difference (17 hours agead) will need to choose morning or afternoon, which is better?
- 13:38:07 [kaz]
- s/agead/ahead/
- 13:38:53 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: tentatively plan for afternoon
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- topic: TD update
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- q?
- 13:39:21 [mkovatsc]
- ack katsu
- 13:39:32 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-td-minutes.html TD minutes (draft)
- 13:39:42 [mjkoster]
- sebastian: Dave gave overview of the work described in the email from last week
- 13:39:58 [mjkoster]
- sebastian: would be interesting to see the use cases
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- sebastian: overview of open issues with TD
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- sebastian: need to get consensus on issues to close
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- q?
- 13:42:12 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: some question about TD deliverables, there should be one deliverable from TD
- 13:42:30 [kaz]
- i|katsu:|[ also added the GitHub resources from Beijing f2f including the Test Coverage Table as well to the f2f wiki ]
- 13:42:43 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: scripting TF
- 13:42:59 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2017/01/23-wot-minutes.html Scripting minutes
- 13:43:11 [mjkoster]
- johannes: sent email with conclusions from the last call
- 13:44:00 [kaz]
- -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2017Jan/0014.html Scripting call summary
- 13:44:02 [mjkoster]
- johanned: would like to have a workshop and take a larger chunk of time to go through the current scripting API
- 13:44:13 [mjkoster]
- s/johanned/johannes
- 13:44:37 [mjkoster]
- johannes: discussing split of work between IG and WG
- 13:45:15 [mkovatsc]
- q?
- 13:45:24 [mjkoster]
- johannes: discussion of markdown document to collect all of the open questions and consolidate
- 13:46:13 [mjkoster]
- johannes: current API doesn't allow working with the semantic type, a new parameter was added to handle this
- 13:46:33 [mjkoster]
- johannes: there is an open PR
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- mkovatsc: is there consensus to adopt this?
- 13:47:30 [mjkoster]
- johannes: would like to wait for feedback before adopting
- 13:47:45 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: will merge and add a note
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- (no objections)
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- q?
- 13:48:38 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: topic communications TF
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- kaz: no update
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- mkovatsc: AOB?
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- q?
- 13:49:58 [mjkoster]
- sebastian: visa still in progress, may need to participate remotely
- 13:50:10 [mjkoster]
- mkovatsc: adjourned
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- [ adjourned ]
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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- thanks for scribing, Michael!
- 13:51:50 [kaz]
- regrets+ Kajimoto
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