16:05:43 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #alreq
16:05:43 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-irc
16:05:56 <Shervin> Shervin has changed the topic to: ALReq Weekly Meeting, 12 December 2016
16:06:08 <Shervin> Chair: behnam
16:06:18 <Shervin> ScribeNick: Shervin
16:07:32 <r12a> r12a has joined #alreq
16:07:35 <behnam> agenda?
16:08:28 <Shervin> agenda+ Mostafa's screenshots of the fonts usage of underline
16:08:36 <Shervin> agenda+ Reviewing action items
16:08:45 <Shervin> agenda+ Reviewing Github issues
16:10:12 <Shervin> behnam: Starting from Mostafa's survey of more fonts using underline
16:10:32 <mostafa> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86
16:11:20 <Shervin> mostafa: It appears that each browser have a different behaviour...
16:11:46 <Shervin> ... But the same behavior is repeated across different fonts.
16:13:09 <Shervin> mostafa: So Chrome is underline without change
16:14:24 <Shervin> ... Different behaviour of Firefox might be due to a feature of the fonts
16:14:53 <Shervin> ... I guess that might be due to putting the underline at the base line or at the descender line
16:16:25 <Shervin> Shervin: Safari behavior of skipping looks odd
16:16:44 <Shervin> behnam: The only difference between that and Chrome is skipping
16:16:56 <Shervin> ... skipping works fine with Latin and many prefer it
16:18:23 <Shervin> r12a: We need to say what should the behavior be
16:18:45 <Shervin> behnam: We need to collect some samples from movable type prints
16:18:53 <mostafa> +1
16:20:27 <Shervin> Shervin: Will provide a report of my research in manuscripts regarding using underline and overline
16:20:52 <Shervin> behnam: I've seen usage of overline for quotation
16:24:21 <behnam> ACTION behnam to investigate unerline/overline usage in movabletype
16:24:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Investigate unerline/overline usage in movabletype [on Behnam Esfahbod - due 2016-12-20].
16:24:40 <mostafa> q+
16:25:17 <Shervin> behnam: Need to look at commonly used software suites like MS Word or legacy Zarnegar
16:25:57 <behnam> ack mostafa
16:26:04 <mostafa> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/FullSizeRender.jpg
16:28:11 <behnam> ACTION: mostafa to collect evidence of underline from old magazines
16:28:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Collect evidence of underline from old magazines [on Mostafa Hajizadeh - due 2016-12-20].
16:30:14 <Shervin> mostafa: I can do a survey of older magazine from Iran regarding underline usage
16:31:29 <Shervin> r12a: Seems like the letters are not completely joined and there is a gap, is this intentional?
16:32:08 <Shervin> mostafa: Most likely this is due a technical issue in the movable type. As this behaviour is not seen in typesetting of ads.
16:33:12 <mostafa> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/IMG_0060.JPG
16:34:23 <Shervin> r12a: The dropcase looks  very interesting. There are also other interesting things in this image
16:50:40 <Shervin> behnam: The transition to chevron for quotation seems something recent; turn of the century or around that time.
16:51:56 <Shervin> behnam: Moving on to other items on the agenda.
16:53:25 <behnam> https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open?sort=owner
16:55:23 <Shervin> behnam: Looking at the action items...
16:56:08 <Shervin> Shervin: Regarding transliteration, I'd prefer to be able to bulk transliterate
16:56:28 <Shervin> r12a: The tool can be passed 300 lines of text to transliterate
16:56:40 <r12a> http://rishida.io/pickers/persian/
16:58:47 <Shervin> r12a: We don't need to add as many diacritics as for Arabic for Persian
16:59:03 <Shervin> r12a: We need to check the transliteration rules are useful
16:59:14 <Shervin> ... the run it and then correct the issues
16:59:20 <Shervin> ... add short vowels....
17:01:38 <Shervin> behnam: Regarding ACTION-75, bidi specification of arabic vs. persian numerals
17:04:11 <Shervin> ... there are some information regarding use of punctuation marks with numbers and I recall some discussion on the mailing list
17:07:00 <Shervin> Shervin: We need to get to a recorded account of this behaviour from source.
17:13:36 <Shervin> zakim, please leave
17:13:36 <Zakim> Zakim has left #alreq
17:14:16 <Shervin> rrsreader, create minutes
17:14:28 <Shervin> rrsagent, create minutes
17:14:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html Shervin
17:14:38 <Shervin> duh, RRS Reader!
17:14:59 <Shervin> rrsagent, publish minutes
17:14:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html Shervin
17:15:09 <Shervin> rrsagent, please leave
17:15:36 <Shervin> rrsagent, make logs public
17:15:39 <Shervin> rrsagent, please leave
17:15:39 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-actions.rdf :
17:15:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mostafa to collect evidence of underline from old magazines [1]
17:15:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-irc#T16-28-11