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15:59:11 <Behnam> Zakim, this is ALReq Weekly Meeting
15:59:11 <Zakim> got it, Behnam
15:59:40 <Behnam> Zakim, list attendees
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16:01:36 <Behnam> Meeting: ALReq Weekly Meeting
16:01:43 <Behnam> Scribe: Behnam
16:01:56 <najib> Hi Behnam
16:02:01 <Behnam> Hi najib
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16:02:30 <najib> Hi Mostapha
16:03:34 <mostafa> Hi.
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16:05:38 <Behnam> Hi mostafa
16:05:55 <Behnam> mostafa, joining webex?
16:06:04 <Behnam> Chair: Shervin
16:06:18 <Behnam> agenda+ Continuing discussion on underline and overline topic
16:06:24 <Behnam> agenda+ Status review of action items
16:06:26 <Shervin> Shervin has changed the topic to: ALReq Weekly Meeting, 6 December 2016
16:06:33 <Behnam> agenda+ Review of Github issues [7] and pull requests
16:06:39 <Shervin> zakim, who is here?
16:06:39 <Zakim> Present: Behnam
16:06:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Shervin, mostafa, najib, RRSAgent, Zakim, Behnam, trackbot
16:06:44 <Behnam> agenda?
16:07:02 <Shervin> present+ Shervin, r12a, mostafa, najib
16:07:04 <Shervin> zakim, who is here?
16:07:04 <Zakim> Present: Behnam, Shervin, r12a, mostafa, najib
16:07:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see Shervin, mostafa, najib, RRSAgent, Zakim, Behnam, trackbot
16:08:39 <Shervin> ScribeNick: Behnam
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16:09:24 <mostafa> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86
16:10:40 <Behnam> Shervin: Last time we cut of in the middle of discussion about underline and overline
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16:11:19 <Behnam> agenda?
16:11:53 <Behnam> Shervin: Last week we stopped in the middle of discussion about underline and overline
16:12:26 <Behnam> ... as seen in screenshots provided by najib, we can see different behaviors based on font and environment
16:12:51 <Behnam> ... has anyone anything to add?
16:12:52 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86#issuecomment-261528811
16:15:27 <Shervin> https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open
16:15:43 <Behnam> Shervin: Let's look at the action items
16:17:15 <Behnam> ... actions 73 & 74, let's get back to them later
16:18:33 <Behnam> Behnam: actions 23, 48, 54, there hasn't been new development. Will update next time
16:19:31 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues
16:19:44 <Behnam> Shervin: let's look at issues
16:20:04 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/85
16:22:20 <Behnam> Shervin: najib, Khalid's comment is valid. Is there a concern now?
16:24:09 <Behnam> najib: Looking at the Arabic numerals wiki page and there's a difference between the categories of Persian and Arabic numbers
16:25:11 <Behnam> Shervin: This is a matter for Unicode. Apparently the properties are set based on the need at the time. Unicode mailing lists should have more info about this.
16:25:53 <Behnam> ... I agree that we may want to note the difference in the document.
16:25:59 <Behnam> ... Let's look more into it
16:26:00 <Shervin> ACTION Shervin Find some more detail about why Arabic/Persian numbers bidi category differs.
16:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - Find some more detail about why arabic/persian numbers bidi category differs. [on Shervin Afshar - due 2016-12-13].
16:26:14 <najib> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/wiki/Arabic-numerals-%28Draft%29
16:27:04 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/82
16:28:08 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/62
16:28:55 <Behnam> Shervin: I'm not sure if we need to keep this issue open
16:29:24 <Behnam> najib: I'm noting this problem in my draft write up
16:29:42 <Behnam> Shervin: najib, could you comment on the issue, so we can close the issue?
16:29:54 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/59
16:31:06 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/57
16:31:21 <Behnam> Shervin: najib, you may want to also look at #59 for the draft
16:31:33 <Shervin> ACTION najib to add some comments to Github issue 59 about fractions
16:31:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-76 - Add some comments to github issue 59 about fractions [on Najib Tounsi - due 2016-12-13].
16:32:24 <Behnam> Shervin: mostafa, updates on #57?
16:32:38 <Behnam> mostafa: We have a first draft in the document and keep working on it
16:32:54 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/13
16:33:52 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/9
16:34:56 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/5
16:35:50 <mostafa> q+
16:36:09 <Behnam> Shervin: That's all for issues.
16:36:30 <Behnam> ... I have one topic to talk about: Abjad, which najib commented on on the list
16:36:34 <Shervin> ack mostafa
16:37:21 <najib> https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/14
16:39:19 <Behnam> r12a: there's no reference to Mabsut in the document
16:39:44 <r12a> s/reference to/definition of/
16:40:25 <Behnam> oh, right, r12a. tnx
16:40:49 <Behnam> Shervin: We don't have "mabsut" in the glossary
16:40:51 <mostafa> +
16:40:52 <mostafa> +1
16:42:04 <Shervin> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit
16:42:40 <Behnam> Shervin: we can add definitions for the terms (mabsut, etc) to the glossary
16:43:05 <Behnam> Shervin: the question is when we want to move the glossary to the main document
16:44:40 <Shervin> ACTION Shervin Get the definitions for Mabsut, etc. for the glossary
16:44:48 <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker.  Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.
16:45:25 <Behnam> Shervin: I'm going to reject the PR, as we cannot merge it in the way it is.
16:45:55 <Behnam> ... we need to have the definition first
16:46:31 <Behnam> r12a: After we have the definitions, we need to make a proper link to the glossary
16:46:34 <mostafa> q+
16:48:11 <Shervin> ack mostafa
16:48:46 <mostafa> q+
16:48:59 <Shervin> ack mostafa
16:49:39 <Behnam> mostafa: About Ebrahim, I have contacted him and he has been having problems with his email account. r12a, can we change his email address?
16:50:14 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/14
16:50:53 <Behnam> Shervin: Looking at Maghrebian Abjad issue last night and doing some research
16:51:27 <Behnam> ... there are books that mention variations of Abjad
16:51:28 <Shervin> Moorish Abjad.
16:52:06 <Behnam> ... sometimes it's called Maghrebian, but also called Moorish
16:52:20 <Shervin> https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/13
16:53:10 <Behnam> r12a: there's an issue open to fix counter-style definitions for Abjad
16:54:13 <Behnam> ... the question is, if the Maghrebian Abjad is in use, as that's a requirement for the counter-styles document
16:54:47 <Behnam> najib: We may want to add Maghrebi Abjad to ALReq document
16:55:28 <Behnam> ... Maghrebi Abjad is a historical abjad, not actively used currently
16:56:01 <Behnam> q+
16:56:20 <Behnam> r12a: So it probably doesn't make it to the counter-styles document
16:56:42 <Behnam> ... About ALReq document, we may want to do the same thing as it's not being used
16:58:12 <Behnam> Shervin: Maybe we should add it to ALReq document and have a note about it being historical
16:59:13 <Behnam> najib: There are many dictionaries that are ordered in Maghrebi Abjad
16:59:43 <Behnam> Shervin: Is it Maghrebi Abjad or Arabic Abjad?
16:59:46 <Shervin> ack Behnam
16:59:47 <Behnam> najib: I need to check
17:03:40 <Behnam> najib: What do you think about pronunciation differences?
17:04:23 <Behnam> ... In Arabic, the pronunciation has a music to it
17:05:08 <Behnam> Shervin: Anything else?
17:05:52 <Behnam> najib: In the document, Section 4. Lines and Paragraphs
17:06:39 <Behnam> ... 4.3 Paragraph and line alignment
17:06:50 <Behnam> mostafa: I've been working on 4.2
17:08:02 <Behnam> Shervin: Anything else?
17:08:49 <Behnam> najib: Next Tuesday, it's a holiday in Morocco, so I may not be able to join
17:09:58 <Behnam> Shervin: Talking about holidays, what's everyone's plan for late December?
17:10:24 <Behnam> r12a: I'll be out for 4-5 weeks during the holidays
17:10:42 <najib> I'm here whole december
17:13:23 <Behnam> Shervin: Have a good day and we will talk next week
17:13:32 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:13:45 <Shervin> Behnam, will you do the robot wrap up?
17:14:07 <Shervin> Zakim, please leave us
17:14:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please leave us', Shervin
17:14:12 <Shervin> Zakim, please leave
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