See also: IRC log
<ShaneM> Regrets ShaneM
<Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Oct/0096.html
<scribe> scribe: jamesn
<Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Oct/0096.html
RS: retiring from IBM at end of
year
... will be continuing in the WG - looking into affiliations
etc.
... not leaving web efforts
... continuing with knowbility
... not leaving the group
<clown> \o/
RS: https://twitter.com/w3c/status/791685843358318592
https://twitter.com/w3c/status/791685843358318592
MC: has been on the home page - and a link on twitter... note to AC. WAI IG list hasn't had note yet
RS: close to getting DPUB ARIA module soon
MC: goal by mid nov
<MichaelC> ARIA 1.1 Candidate Recommendation
<MichaelC> W3C announcement
No meetings Thanksgiving, Dec 22 and Dec 29
RS: will be on vacation for a few weeks. MC will be chairing
https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/ARIA_2.0_Issue_Triage
<clown> "This page was last modified on 23 September 2016"
Issue-719?
<trackbot> Issue-719 -- Create new ARIA Features to support Drag and Drop -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/719
issue-388?
<trackbot> issue-388 -- Need to add clipboard operations to drag and drop model. -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/388
<MichaelC> HTML 5.1 Drag & Drop
JN: HTML5 has some drag and drop stuff so this fits into the equiavlency
MC: maybe triage as 1.2 with the proviso that it might need to be pushed back
<clown> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/editing.html#drag-and-drop ?
RS: some people are using it at IBM
MC: do we need an APA review of Drag and Drop in 5.1
RS: if APA wants to look at the feature and come back to us about our issues
JS: the maturity question is a reasonable one
JN: prefer to have in 1.2 with and at risk
RS: adding a note - waiting for requirements to have in 1.2 from apa
if no need to address this in 1.2 timeframe will move to 2.0
RS: when do we start looking at 1.2
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/52
RS: do we want to do PW in 1.2?
<Stefan> +q
JN: we have to if we want parity
<Stefan> -q
MC: I am hearing motivation to discuss in the 1.2 timeframe
<clown> issue-512
<trackbot> issue-512 -- Clean up relatedConcept references; XForms and DAISY could be outdated or otherwise not useful, others as well -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/512
<clown> issue-335
<trackbot> issue-335 -- Consider a breadcrumbs role -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/335
RS: move to aria 2.0
MK: 388 tied to 719
<clown> issue-501
<trackbot> issue-501 -- Allow menuitemcheckbox to have a group parent like menuitemradio and menutiem do when in a menu role -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/501
<clown> issue-634
<trackbot> issue-634 -- Video and audio roles (simple groups, not full functionality apis) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/634
<clown> issue-1050
<trackbot> issue-1050 -- Revisit normative ref to ui events keyboardevent key values when it hits rec -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1050
<clown> issue-55
<trackbot> issue-55 -- Host language should have default mappings to ARIA roles (or vice versa) -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/55
<clown> issue-409
<trackbot> issue-409 -- ARIA 2.0 should consider providing roles that match some or all of the HTML 5 new input types (e.g., color picker, date picker, etc.) -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/409
<clown> issue-539
<trackbot> issue-539 -- aria-valuestep -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/539
<Zakim> clown, you wanted to say there is a @step attr in HTML5
<clown> issue-1049
<trackbot> issue-1049 -- Remove seemingly normative statement in aria-valuemin re: "allows alternate devices to react to arrow keys" -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1049
RS: looks like a manageable list
MC: 2 new issues lists to be aware of
<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22ARIA+1.2%22
in cleaning up GH issues - created labels for 1.1,1.2 and 2.0 and moved stuff
<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22ARIA+2.0%22
RS: we should move over
... who can take an action to move the issues to GH
MC: not something that will happen right away
<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to migrate issues from Tracker to GitHub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-aria-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2127 - Migrate issues from tracker to github [on Michael Cooper - due 2016-11-03].
clown: could be lazy and move as we discuss them
MK: seems reasonable
MC: if people want to do that
then fine
... links to APG - can APG keep up
MK: think should keep the action
to do that
... widgets and landmarks are our priority
JN: if we do put something like Blockquotes in it would be very lightweight sections
waiting for UIautomation and mac mappings
shane is going to do the bridge from IA2
RS: have 1 for MSAA not for that
though.
... Joanie has linux one working
JD: mozilla has been fixing some of the 1.1 fails so there will be more passes soon
I haven't added the new realsitons to ATK yet - but will get to it soon
RS: anything to cover
Tzviya: when get mappings good to go
RS: we have dependency to KB
events... we don't care what the values are - we will follow
them
... they took out space - but we have addressed that
ok
they won't get it done in our timeframe
MC: will have difficulty but not going to give up on it yet
RS: SVG2 - that TF has not met yet
essentially the SVG2 spec went to CR - the browsers are looking at what should come out as they don't want everything
the intent is to get SVG2 done... will affect minimally the mappings guide
FE has been chairing the TF... had connectivity issues accessing IRC from the job.... suggested to do it on a mobile device
have not met in a few weeks
automation of the test harness will help with SVG2
MK: seems instead of labels for things we could consider using milestones to organize issues
MC: was doing what was quick and easy
+1 to milestones
MC: discuss at next editors proposal
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