IRC log of multimodal on 2016-10-24

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Meeting: Multimodal Interaction WG
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Chair: Debbie
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Present: Debbie, Dirk, Kaz
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regrets:helena
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agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Oct/0008.html
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topic: Actions
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action-454
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action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454
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ddahl: not yet done
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... will do it
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action-456?
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action-456 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Generate a picture based on the tpac flip chart idea -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/456
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action-456?
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action-456 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Generate a picture based on the tpac flip chart idea -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/456
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kaz: not yet done...
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... will do
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action-457?
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action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457
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kaz: not yet done this either... will do
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action-458?
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action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile our work with their work -- due 2016-10-24 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458
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ddahl: we can talk with Helena next time
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... btw, Helena had a question to you, Kaz
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... she has some JS library
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... and would like to put that on the GitHub
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... were you aware of that?
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kaz: no, didn't know
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ddahl: let's ask her about the detail
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... but basically it would be ok
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kaz: think so
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... we should clarify whether she is OK with W3C software license or not
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action: kaz to coordinate with Helena about her library software for the GitHub
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Created ACTION-459 - Coordinate with helena about her library software for the github [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-10-31].
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topic: Use Cases (on GitHub)
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-> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html Use Cases on GitHub
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dirk: forked the repo and added changes
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... still need to issue a pull request
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-> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html#UC-12:_Smart_Car_Platform UC-12
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dirk: there are efforts by GENIVI
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... Qt and Franca
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kaz: the combination of Qt and Franca for automotive apps is kind of similar to HTML5 and SCXML for Web apps
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... GENIVI guys have started to consider the combination of HTML5 and JS for IVI apps
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... but JS itself doesn't have enough capability for state transition
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dirk: could use JS-based SCXML as well
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kaz: indeed
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dirk: would like to update the Use Case description based on today's discussion as well
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kaz: tx
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ddahl: would like to revisit some of the use cases
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... see the minutes from the previous meeting
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-> https://www.w3.org/2016/10/17-multimodal-minutes.html prev minutes
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ddahl: UC-13 and UC-18 are the same
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... will finalize UC-22 (smart hotel room) and UC-2 (robot)
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... Helena was interested in UC-18 and UC-23
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... UC-12 by Dirk
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kaz: UC-7 and UC-18 could be combined
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ddahl: right
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... not sure if Helena really wanted to combine 13 and 18
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... besides the individual use case, you have an action for the template
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dirk: btw, UC-23 is missing at the ToC
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kaz: will add that to ToC
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ddahl: can write up the introduction section and clarify the purposes
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... can wait until all the individual use cases are done
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... we have nice use cases
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kaz: for the publication version, how to handle all the use cases?
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... some of the use cases as the core ones?
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ddhal: we can choose some of the core/important use cases and put a link back to this original GitHub draft
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... are there any use cases you'd like to sign up, Kaz?
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kaz: at least UC-7
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... and anything important if needed
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... will talk with some of the JP guys about UC-8
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ddahl: we should update this document itself
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... and once all the edit is done, we can generate the publication version
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kaz: +1
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ddahl: would like to see the updated document next week
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topic: Discovery & Registration
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ddahl: we need Helena
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topic: Web of Things coordination
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kaz: the proposed WG Charter has ended recently
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... got strong supports from the Members
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... and some objections
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... they've just started the WebSocket interface as well
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... maybe they might want to start consideration about application layer protocol and state transition handling
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... as you know, WebSocket interface has been discussed Automotive WG as well
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... and the Automotive WG has just published the FPWD for the WebSocket interface
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-> https://www.w3.org/TR/vehicle-information-service/ Vehicle Signal Server Specification FPWD
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kaz: think this WebSocket interface is kind of similar to the MMI Architecture and the MMI Lifecycle events
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[ adjourned ]
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