<scribe> scribe: Kaz

<scribe> scribenick: kaz

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<ddahl> action-447?

<trackbot> action-447 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Review updated vocabulary -- due 2016-06-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/447

kaz: not yet...

ddahl: she wanted to update the draft
... need to check with her
... might be better to wait for the next draft

kaz: will skim the current one
... and will review the updated one

ddahl: discussion during the previous call about the expected updates

kaz: ok

dirk: have problem with accessing the Tracker and the Wiki

ddahl: if you have your W3C account, it should work for the wiki

kaz: you need to login the wiki to edit it
... but your account should work for it
... would like to check with the Systeam

"/me your account"

ddahl: regarding Helena's document?

kaz: will check the prev minutes as well

ddahl: ok

Use Cases

-> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized Use Cases wiki

dirk: sent my slides to the public list

-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Jun/att-0007/Multimodal_Interaction_in_Cars.pdf Dirk's slides

kaz: sorry but failed to bring this to the Automotive group during the f2f meeting in Portland
... will talk with the group co-Chairs about when to discuss UI topics

dirk: maybe not the whole Automotive WG but some sub group would work

kaz: right

ddahl: maybe we could form a joint TF

kaz: there is a possibility not the WG side but the BG side is interested
... I'll talk with both the Automotive WG and the Automotive BG

-> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Vehicle_Information_Service_Specification Automotive Information Service discussion

-> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Vehicle_Information_Service_Specification#WebSocket_Channel_Authorization

kaz: they are planning to specify data point using "path" parameter based on GENIVI's VSS definition

ddahl: how to specify door, etc.

kaz: the original vehicle data spec had an idea of "zone" for that purpose
... so how to specify position is one of the issues for the new interface
... how to distinguish multiple sessions is another discussion point

ddahl: how about discovery?

kaz: discovery is not yet discussed
... I think the basic expectation is that the IVI system is already installed and discovery is not needed
... but at some point we need to think about discovery again when we want to integrate external services and additional devices

ddahl: we have UC-12 for Smart Car Platform

-> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-12:_Smart_Car_Platform Smart Car Platform

ddahl: (updates the wiki)
... GENIVI use Qt or HTML5 for GUI
... Automotive WG develops an approach to low-level interaction in the vehicle with WebSockets

kaz: another question is how to detect availability of sensors and properties
... it seems the current vehicle service spec draft says we'll get 503 error if the sensor is not available

Web of Things coordination

kaz: Jim Barnett and I joined the WoT IG call last week
... and explained what SCXML was like
... people were interested in SCXML and how to use it for concrete WoT systems
... Automotive use cases may be good
... will continue the discussion on the list
... I mentioned Dirk was working on automotive use cases and talking with him would make sense

Use Cases revisit

ddahl: what about UC-18 smart remote for appliances?

-> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-18_smart_remote_for_appliances UC-18 smart remote for appliances

ddahl: good use case for WoT as well
... might want to see Dirk's paper for the SCXML workshop
... UC-7 is also related to smart appliances
... and related to geolocation/geospatial too
... is anybody interested in adding dependency information?

<scribe> ACTION: kaz to talk with the Systeam about Dirk's account for the use case wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-451 - Talk with the systeam about dirk's account for the use case wiki [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-08-15].

kaz: btw, at some point, maybe we might want to publish this use case wiki as a group note

ddahl: +1
... but before that we need to work more

[ adjourned ]

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Found Scribe: Kaz
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Present: Debbie Dirk Kaz
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Aug/0001.html
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Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-minutes.html
People with action items: kaz