IRC log of sdwssn on 2016-03-22

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20:03:17 [RRSAgent]
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20:03:33 [SimonCox]
present+ SimonCox
20:03:40 [phila]
trackbot, help
20:03:40 [trackbot]
Please see <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
20:04:11 [ahaller2]
i can't connect
20:04:28 [ahaller2]
even not to phil's link
20:04:46 [phila]
trackbot, associate this channel with #swd
20:04:47 [trackbot]
Sorry, but #swd has no configuration.
20:04:49 [phila]
trackbot, associate this channel with #swd
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Sorry, but #swd has no configuration.
20:04:53 [phila]
trackbot, associate this channel with #sdw
20:04:53 [trackbot]
Associated this channel with #sdw.
20:05:23 [JRamsay]
Present+ JRamsay
20:06:16 [phila]
'/invite trackbot'
20:06:18 [SefkiKolozali_UniS_]
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20:06:50 [SefkiKolozali_UniS_]
present+ Sefki Kolozali
20:06:52 [KJanowicz]
i can do it
20:07:12 [ahaller2]
i still can not connect, not through the phone number either
20:07:19 [kerry]
scribe: KJanowicz
20:07:35 [kerry]
Scribenick: KJanowicz
20:08:06 [KJanowicz]
Can somebody add me to the webprotege ssn version or point me to the right link
20:08:11 [kerry]
armin, meeting number is 647 066 501
20:08:18 [ahaller2]
it does not wokr
20:08:37 [kerry]
pw is sdwssn
20:08:37 [phila]
zakim, code?
20:08:37 [Zakim]
I have been told this is SDW SSN https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b8c83a45f52d or +1-617-324-0000 access 647 066 501
20:08:38 [KJanowicz]
The pw is at the top line of this chat
20:09:27 [phila]
zakim, this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m358ba130b41247b188253f7775b937cc, access no. 647 066 501
20:09:27 [Zakim]
got it, phila
20:09:36 [phila]
zakim, save these details
20:09:36 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'save these details', phila
20:09:47 [phila]
zakim, help
20:09:47 [Zakim]
Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
20:09:50 [Zakim]
Some of the commands I know are:
20:09:50 [Zakim]
xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
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if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
20:09:51 [Zakim]
xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
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I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
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xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
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xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
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who's here? - lists the participants on the phone
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who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted
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mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
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unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
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is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
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list conferences - reports the active conferences
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this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx
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excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel
20:09:53 [Zakim]
I last learned something new on $Date: 2015/08/27 01:09:18 $
20:11:19 [phila]
zakim, save this conference description
20:11:19 [Zakim]
this conference description has been saved, phila
20:11:24 [phila]
zakim, code?
20:11:24 [Zakim]
I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m358ba130b41247b188253f7775b937cc, access no. 647 066 501
20:11:28 [ClausStadler]
present+ ClausStadler
20:11:33 [phila]
present+ phila
20:11:41 [kerry]
present + keerry
20:11:46 [kerry]
present+ kerry
20:11:48 [KJanowicz]
@ahaller2: can you please give me editing rights on the ssn at webprotege?
20:11:48 [phila]
RRSAgent, make logs public
20:11:52 [ahaller2]
present+ ahaller2
20:12:17 [phila]
kerry: Joel Ramsay is here from ANU who will be doing some work around IoT Lite
20:12:29 [SefkiKolozali_UniS_]
present+ SefkiKolozali_UniS_
20:12:32 [phila]
present- keerry
20:12:36 [JRamsay]
Can you not hear me?
20:12:41 [KJanowicz]
No
20:12:51 [JRamsay]
Okay, I'll work on that here.
20:12:55 [SimonCox]
present?
20:13:05 [SimonCox]
present
20:13:06 [phila]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:13:06 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
20:13:23 [phila]
kerry: Sefki from Uni Surrey, works with Payam
20:13:25 [joshlieberman]
joshlieberman has joined #sdwssn
20:13:33 [KJanowicz]
Kerry: Sefki joint the group working on the SSN
20:13:45 [phila]
chair: Kerry
20:13:55 [kerry]
Present+ kerry
20:13:55 [KJanowicz]
present+
20:13:56 [SimonCox]
who is here?
20:14:17 [joshlieberman]
present+ joshlieberman
20:14:22 [joshlieberman]
webbed pw?
20:14:34 [joshlieberman]
...webex
20:14:43 [phila]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:14:43 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
20:15:13 [KJanowicz]
Likely me
20:15:41 [kerry]
patent call: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
20:16:04 [phila]
Topic: Time changes
20:16:06 [kerry]
topic: world time changes
20:16:32 [phila]
agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20160322
20:16:37 [KJanowicz]
Kerry: we already changed the meeting time for the main meeting of the entire group.
20:16:55 [KJanowicz]
Kerry: what about the SSN meeting?
20:17:32 [KJanowicz]
I would hope we can stay at the time we had
20:17:50 [joshlieberman]
hakim, code?
20:17:56 [joshlieberman]
hakim, code?
20:17:57 [KJanowicz]
Can't we stay with the times we agreed on before?
20:18:11 [joshlieberman]
zakim, code?
20:18:11 [Zakim]
I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m358ba130b41247b188253f7775b937cc, access no. 647 066 501
20:18:38 [KJanowicz]
Kerry can you post the timeanddate link?
20:19:28 [ahaller2]
1:00pm utc
20:19:57 [KJanowicz]
This time would not work for me
20:20:05 [phila]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160406T13&ah=1
20:20:38 [KJanowicz]
What is wrong with the times we agreed on recently?
20:20:40 [phila]
Next SSN Meeting will be at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T13&ah=1
20:20:43 [KJanowicz]
q+
20:20:55 [kerry]
ack KJanowicz
20:21:04 [SimonCox]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160322&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224
20:21:18 [phila]
Which is 23:00 in Canberra
20:21:40 [phila]
Europe changes this weekend
20:21:51 [phila]
(Last weekend in March)
20:22:06 [SimonCox]
Look at this: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160406&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224
20:22:41 [phila]
KJanowicz: Can everyone get their fair share of suffering, i.e. make it late Tuesday/early Wednesday
20:23:01 [ahaller2]
i prefer later at night
20:23:11 [phila]
phila: As a European, I am lucky - all times work for us :-)
20:23:25 [ahaller2]
if that helps Krzysztof
20:23:31 [JRamsay]
As anAussie, I would prefer 1pm UTC, but as a newbie, Ill go with what you guys choose.
20:23:36 [KJanowicz]
yes 2pm would already help me a lot
20:23:59 [KJanowicz]
I cannot hear josh very well
20:24:05 [KJanowicz]
+1
20:25:02 [KJanowicz]
would the time right now work for all of us?
20:25:18 [kerry]
password is sdwssn
20:25:31 [phila]
s/password is sdwssn//
20:26:32 [KJanowicz]
kerry: this would be 6am for you and 12/1 for the us west coast
20:26:59 [phila]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1
20:27:13 [KJanowicz]
That would also work for me
20:27:34 [KJanowicz]
7am
20:28:40 [KJanowicz]
We already have the main meeting at 6am pacific so it would be great to have the ssn meeting at another time
20:29:25 [phila]
PROPOSAL 1: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1
20:29:44 [phila]
PROPOSAL 2:www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T13&ah=1
20:29:53 [KJanowicz]
phila: listing proposals for meeting times for ssn meeting
20:30:27 [ahaller2]
+1 for Proposal 1
20:30:33 [SefkiKolozali_UniS_]
14:00 UTC is fine with me. It seems like it is 15:00PM in the UK.
20:30:51 [SimonCox]
Proposal 3 - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=4&day=6&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=152&p2=195&p3=263&p4=224
20:31:00 [phila]
PROPOSAL 3: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1
20:31:15 [KJanowicz]
+1 for proposal 3
20:31:55 [KJanowicz]
I can also survive proposal 1
20:32:02 [SimonCox]
+1 for #3
20:32:06 [kerry]
+1 for prop 2
20:32:17 [JRamsay]
+1 for proposal 2
20:32:36 [joshlieberman]
+1 for 1,2, or 3
20:32:57 [kerry]
2nd choice proposal 3
20:33:00 [ahaller2]
I think proposal 2 was ruled out
20:33:14 [SefkiKolozali_UniS_]
+1 for proposal 1,2
20:33:28 [ahaller2]
for the benefit of KJanowicz
20:33:33 [KJanowicz]
thx
20:34:41 [SimonCox]
Can't we use Doodle for this instead of taking time during call?
20:35:53 [joshlieberman]
KJanowicz -- recruit 3 more participants?
20:36:27 [KJanowicz]
i tried but they dropped out due to the meeting times, e.g., Karl
20:36:31 [ahaller2]
kerry you vote for ANU
20:37:46 [ahaller2]
it only works if you screw the europeans
20:37:54 [SimonCox]
http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzzng43aedy/admin#table
20:38:23 [SimonCox]
http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz
20:38:33 [KJanowicz]
ahaller2: ah, I see
20:38:34 [joshlieberman]
21h UTC?
20:39:17 [ahaller2]
11PM UTC works well for SYD and SFO
20:39:17 [phila]
21h UTC would be http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:39:36 [KJanowicz]
it would work for me
20:40:07 [KJanowicz]
kerry it would be 8am for you
20:40:23 [KJanowicz]
same heree
20:41:09 [ClausStadler]
for me all the times so far worked (europe)
20:41:09 [kerry]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1
20:42:01 [KJanowicz]
21h UTC would be http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:43:21 [KJanowicz]
PROPOSAL 4: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:43:45 [SimonCox]
http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz
20:46:27 [KJanowicz]
q+
20:47:10 [KJanowicz]
So, can we agree on the 21 UTC
20:48:39 [KJanowicz]
q+
20:48:51 [kerry]
ack KJanowicz
20:49:58 [KJanowicz]
Based on the poll (7 1 1) it looks like 21 UTC, right?
20:51:45 [KJanowicz]
Thank you very much Sefki
20:52:00 [KJanowicz]
decision: new meeting time is 21 UTC
20:52:08 [kerry]
decision: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:52:42 [phila]
RESOLUTION: SSN Meetings will take place at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1 until end October
20:53:19 [KJanowicz]
not so far
20:53:31 [ahaller2]
i did
20:53:37 [KJanowicz]
kjano
20:54:42 [DanhLePhuoc]
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20:54:58 [ahaller2]
you mean do it jeremy's way on the wiki?
20:55:38 [KJanowicz]
q+
20:56:02 [joshlieberman]
Editing on branches allows changes to be reviewed before merging...
20:56:06 [KJanowicz]
+1
20:56:21 [KJanowicz]
Can we draft on the wiki? as we did for the ssn xg.
20:56:49 [kerry]
ack KJanowicz
20:59:18 [phila]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:59:18 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
21:00:35 [joshlieberman]
+1 to Github procedure -- gets easier as more documents get developed that way.
21:01:28 [KJanowicz]
Agreement to use the Github procedure
21:02:19 [KJanowicz]
Kerry to post github instructions
21:02:27 [joshlieberman]
bye
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21:02:31 [KJanowicz]
bye bye
21:02:47 [JRamsay]
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21:02:58 [phila]
Meeting: SDW SSN Sub Group bi-weekly
21:03:01 [phila]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
21:03:01 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
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