See also: IRC log
<kaz> scribenick: kaz
yingying: Dave's action to contact Molly?
dsr: had a chat
<dsr> https://www.w3.org/2008/pr-firm/wiki/MCStrategy_2016/wot
dsr: at the bottom of the above
wiki
... there are links to the sales sheet and banner
-> https://www.w3.org/2008/pr-firm/wiki/images/a/a9/Wot_sell_sheet.pdf draft sales sheet
-> https://www.w3.org/2008/pr-firm/wiki/images/a/a7/WOT_banner_sticker_DRAFT.pdf draft banner
dsr: Kevin Hughes working with Molly for the logo of WoT
reynier: just joined the audio
dsr: one follow up
... Georg from the German office for
<dsr> IoTW Berlin 19-20 Sep 2016
<dsr> We hope to have a stand and talk at the Berlin event
<dsr> I would then fly to Lisbon to TPAC plenary day
soumya: have one idea
... IEEE IoT conference in Western Virginia on 12-14 Dec.
2016
... one of the big events
<Soumya> http://wfiot2016.ieee-wf-iot.org/
dsr: opportunity for us to speak there?
soumya: yes
dsr: possible to have Jeff Jaffe, the W3C CEO
soumya: good
... special session or tutorial may be possible
... good to have a session
<dsr> Soumya is on the program committee
soumya: having pc calls every 2 weeks
<dsr> ACTION: Soumya to introduce Dave to the IEEE IoT conference committee [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-wot-comm-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Introduce dave to the ieee iot conference committee [on Soumya Kanti Datta - due 2016-02-24].
soumya: normally run a special session
-> http://www.interop.jp/ Interop Tokyo event
kaz: an event in Japan in June
... kind of like a CES in Japan
... June 8-10
... in Makuhari
... we can get a booth
<Soumya> Kaz - WF-IoT 2016 is in Reston, VA - http://wfiot2016.ieee-wf-iot.org/
kaz: also a meeting room for a mini f2f or mini plugfest
s/West Virginia/Reston, VA/
yingying: should we add these event to the list?
dsr: yes
... and I have another one
<dsr> WWW 2016 W3C Track https://www.w3.org/2016/04/w3c-track.html
<dsr> Thursday 14 April in Montreal
dsr: Marie is organizing the W3C
track
... sending a message to the list to collect ideas
... people giving talks can get one-day pass
joerg: can do demo?
dsr: could do
... but how easy to do demos is to be considered
joerg: more communication style would be better
<dsr> A session can either host 4 talks (20' each + 10' questions total) or hosts 5 talks (15' each + 15' questions total). If you feel that you have enough "meat" to fill in 2 sessions of 90' each, then I will be happy to give you these 2 slots:
<dsr> - Thu. 14 -- 13:30 - 15:00
<dsr> - Thu. 14 -- 15:30 - 17:00
dsr: could get the above slots
instead of the morning one
... would like a short title list
... first question is how many people are interested
... so far, myself about the abstract
... and Louay, Frank
... and Soumya on connected vehicles
... Sebasitian
... Mike Paciello
kaz: there is no slot for Automotive itself...
johannes: some talk on plugfest?
dsr: we can expand the slot
johannes: can send a proposal
soumya: already finalized the visa letter?
dsr: Yingying is in charge of invitation letters
soumya: ok
<Soumya> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_2016,_April,_12th_-_14th,_Montreal,_Canada
dsr: above is the Montreal f2f meeting page
reynier: next f2f meeting in Montoreal?
dsr: yes
reynier: relevant conferences on the
wiki
... how to make decision where to go?
... what is the criteria?
... kind of big list
dsr: we have a long list
... the staff can attend a few
... but the Members potentially can attend
... and we welcome that
... this TF could help
kaz: Soumya, are you thinking about the W3C Vehicle API as well for the W3C Track?
soumya: yes, that is the part of the talk
kaz: great
yingying: for these events/conferences, would be better to add the info to the W3C event calendar
dsr: we should let the Comm Team about that
kaz: +1
yingying: Montreal and all?
dsr: staff and Members representing
W3C
... e.g., if Soumya is presenting some work on W3C, we can add
it
<Yingying> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-comms/2016Feb/0000.html
yingying: liaison letter from OMA
dsr: Bryan made a presentation on
GotAPI in Sunnyvale
... not sure about the next step
kaz: we already have liaison with OMA
https:
//www.w3.org/2001/11/StdLiaison
... so we can use that path
... and we might want to start with Bryan
dsr: would be the best
kaz: and if needed, we can extend the liaison with OMA for the WoT topic
<dsr> ACTION: Dave to contact Bryan to ask for his advice on OMA liaison re WoT [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-wot-comm-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-30 - Contact bryan to ask for his advice on oma liaison re wot [on Dave Raggett - due 2016-02-24].
-> http://w3c.github.io/wot/landscape.html TF-AP landscape
kaz: fyi, Mohammed from Orange was
assigned to contact Bryan for OMA liaison
... so maybe we can CC Mohammed when we contact Bryan
dsr: good idea
... we should add one more topic on ISO/IEC
... we've got a request for comments
... review of reference architecture
<dsr> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Feb/0051.html
<dsr> use cases request: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Feb/0053.html
joerg: what is your
expectation?
... not really clear
dsr: could discuss the architecture
kaz: btw, there is no attached liaison letter with the message
dsr: maybe due to the ML
setting...
... would take an action item to update the attachment
<dsr> ACTION: Dave to upload ISO/IEC attachments to the wiki and provide a link [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-wot-comm-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Upload iso/iec attachments to the wiki and provide a link [on Dave Raggett - due 2016-02-24].
<dsr> (the attachments were stripped from the archive)
kaz: should one of the TFs work on
that?
... or the whole IG?
dsr: IG has not been working on architecture
joerg: that's why wondering
... would see their domain model which was the basis of the
architecture
... what would be the good reaction to them?
dsr: would look into possibility with other groups as well
joerg: activities in Asia?
dsr: one of our Members in Korea may be involved
kaz: thought Mr. Matsukura from
Fujitsu was working on some architecture idea
... also we're generating some basic architecture
joerg: yeah
... but what is done by ISO/IEC might be more abstract
architecture
dsr: work item within the draft
charter on architecture
... so would discuss architecture during upcoming calls
kaz: part of the TF calls?
dsr: maybe a separate topic
joerg: Kajimoto-san may have some
opinion
... we should ask him for opinion about possible relationship with
the ISO/IEC work
reynier: who would contact Kajimoto-san?
kaz: can talk with him after Dave's uploading the attachment
reynier: good
joerg: would go back to the first
item
... one sentence on WoT
dsr: proposed a text with Molly
... not final version, though
reynier: would suggest the number of
magnitude for IoT
... in 2020 there will be 50 billion of IoT devices
... that kind of number
kaz: for the sales sheet?
reynier: would check it again, but
the sales sheet doesn't mention concrete number
... would help if we add concrete number
-> https://www.w3.org/2008/pr-firm/wiki/images/a/a9/Wot_sell_sheet.pdf draft sales sheet
joerg: also references?
reynier: one of the people from
Taiwan
... mentioned the nature of the commercial value of IoT
... huge amount of values
<dsr> Re ISO/IEC liaison, Jonathan Jeon (ETRI) has previously posted emails and should be in the loop
reynier: is that ok?
joerg: please send the information by
email
... and our colleague can add that to the sheet
... would see current draft sales sheet
<dsr> scribenick: dsr
<kaz> (kaz needs to move to another call)
Dave: will work with UQAM on registration & payment for the F2F
Dave to send details of host contact to task force leads
Joerg: can we arrange for 10-20 people to meet on Sunday to work on the plugfest preparations
Dave: that’s something we can discuss with Roger @ UQAM
If that doesn’t work out we can arrange a room e.g. in a hotel
Yingying: please keep me in the loop on the logistics planning as this will be helpful for Beijing F2F
Yingying: so far I’ve received two submissions and will add those to the web site
Joerg: suggest a further reminder and another week
Dave: once we have some testimonials showing, that should encourage others
Joerg: we want to start with some commercial testimonials
Yingying: what about testimonials from IoT industry alliances and SDO’s?
Joerg: we should include this in our
outreach to those organisations
... this is related to the next agenda item on liaisons
Dave will work with Yingying on inviting testimonials from external orgs.
Joerg: this will depend on the prior collaboration agreements we have
Dave is working with Stefan Hoppe on a draft collaboration with OPC Foundation and an entry for our liaison page
<scribe> ACTION: Joerg to reach out to OIC for the WoT IG Montreal F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-wot-comm-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Reach out to oic for the wot ig montreal f2f [on Joerg Heuer - due 2016-02-24].
Re OPC, the idea we’re discussing is a common framework in respect to semantic interoperability and security
<Soumya> Consumer Electronics Magazine, IEEE - http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/RecentIssue.jsp?punumber=5962380
Soumya I am interested in providing WoT related articles.
This magazine is aimed at consumers
Any comments?
Soumya: I will circulate the draft within a week or so. The publication date is in July
Joerg: could this be done within our task forces?
Soumya: I can first circulate the draft to the task force leaders, and to Joerg and Dave
Reynier thanks Yingying for chairing.
next meeting will be March 16 (3rd Wednesday of every month)