Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference -- 16 Dec 2015

<AWK> +ChuckOp

<AWK> +jeanne

<AWK> +allanj

<AWK> +JohnRochford

FPWD

JA: plan for first public working draft

Chuck: feels it is good to have a deadline

JA: WCAG needs chance to review and approve

Chuck: What state does document need to be in before then?

AWK: Not likely to be a session where in-depth content review takes place, higher level
... at CSUN

JA: Feb 10th target deadline for FPWD

WD: Will we be putting forward succes criteria?

SLH: Overview, not success criteria, just yet

JA: Other concerns?

John Rochford: offer to copy-edit first draft when available

SLH: Draft can be edited in the wiki

John Rochford: would prefer to review final drafT before CSUN

<allanj> close item 2

<allanj> open item 3

survey results

<allanj> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/81151/fineTuneOverview/results

JA: Thanks to all who took the time to complete the survey
...: we have a few areas that are well done, and a few that are languishing

<allanj> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Overview_of_Low_Vision

JA: Under CLARITY section, Erich suggests changing "changes" to "increases"

AWK: Suggested change would be fine

JA: Change made, as well as removal of duplicate "of"

perceptual area

JA: Taking a look at PERCEPTUAL section, Erich raised the idea of including "scotoma" description and symptoms

<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to sak if scotoma is adequately covered in other field loss?

AWK: We could include numerous highly medical terms, though want to be mindful of the target audience

<JohnRochford> +1 to functional, not medical approach

Shawn: It is important that we include the effects of scotoma under "Other Field Loss", but not necessarily the medical term

AWK: We could include that there is detailed medical terminology in the appendix, if not found in the body

<allanj> include at top of document, it covers all topics

JA: Environmental field loss is something we could address at another time, in deference to remaining agenda topics

<shawn> ACTION: Shawn integrate https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/issues/2 into github version [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/16-lvtf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Integrate https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/issues/2 into github version [on Shawn Henry - due 2015-12-23].

WD: Feels Environmental field loss is worthy of inclusion

AWK: Notes potential for blurring of categorical lines between symptoms and causes

LC: Commingling could potentially be its own section

JA: Should Andrew attempt to include to learn how it fits?

WD: Feels it is a good idea

<allanj> perhaps tie 'environmental fieldloss' to clarity last sentence.

<laura> +1

AWK: Is okay with trying it out to see how it fits

<allanj> scribe: erich

AWK: asks John Rochford for clarification on earlier statement relative to low-vision field loss

<allanj> ... "Some low vision users experience field loss, or a reduction in their perceptual area."

John Rochford: Finds specific statement confusing and needing clarification

WD: Suggests removing "or"

JA: Asks John Rochford if this would be agreeable

John Rochford: Field Loss is not the only cause of reduction of perceptual area

JA: Feels in our context, where our focus is primarily the web and computer screen, our definition can suffice and does not need the added nuance

John Rochford: Agrees

AWK: Wonders if adding "due to" could help achieve needed clarification or adds confusion

John Rochford; Since we say "Some", fine with "due to"

WD: Seems redundant

<AWK> trying this: Some low vision users experience field loss - a reduction in their perceptual area.

<allanj> +1

<Wayne> +1

<JohnRochford> +1

<laura> +1

Luminance

JA: Overview of feedback received

WD: willing to formulate for this section in plain language
... Willing to take an ACTION

<shawn> I propose that this section be re-titled to be more about the functional limitation, like the others — e.g.: Light Sensitivity and Contrast Sensitivity (or Light and Contrast Sensitivity) {Shawn}

<ChuckOp> I prefer the latter form

<JohnRochford> +1 to Light and Contrast Sensitivity

<allanj> ACTION: Wayne to write the Light and Contrast Sensitivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/16-lvtf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Write the light and contrast sensitivity [on Wayne Dick - due 2015-12-23].

AWK: Shawn has suggestion of Light and Contrast Sensitivity

<allanj> +1 to Light and Contrast Sensitivity

+1 to Light and Contrast Sensitivity

<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to mention separate color or combined

SLH: Color Perception seems to potentially have too much weight to be separate

Color

John Rochford: Laura has a great write-up

<shawn> good point, Laura, probably want this *much* simplier and plain language

<allanj> ACTION: Laura to write first draft plain english of Color Perception [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/16-lvtf-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Write first draft plain english of color perception [on Laura Carlson - due 2015-12-23].

JA: Laura would you be willing to attempt putting in to plain language?

LC: Willing to take an action

JA: John had a statment of Marsha Use Case, which I had to search down in the document

<allanj> close item 3

AWK: likely holdover

<Wayne> ACTION: Use cases for WCAG issues assigned to Low Vision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/16-lvtf-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Error finding 'Use'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<shawn> ACTION: Wayne Use cases for WCAG issues assigned to Low Vision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/16-lvtf-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Use cases for wcag issues assigned to low vision [on Wayne Dick - due 2015-12-23].

JA: No meeting for the next two weeks due to holiday schedule, and next call will be Jan 6th, 2016

<shawn> Attendance Survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/81151/LVTF-telecons/
...: Issue on drop shadow contrast referred to us by Wcag

<JohnRochford> gotta go, folks

wcag issue#98

<allanj> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/98)

JA: Can use of drop shadow allow to meet the contrast requirement

AWK: Not likely to have an automatic answer to this, though worthy of inclusion and exploration, good to be discussed on the GitHub issue itself and comment

SLH: Curious about people's first reactions to it

WD: Has done some testing, just black and white with controlled luminance, with drop shadow going all the way around

SLH: Wayne include example in the GitHub dialog

WD: Some pixels in his testing could meet the standard, but not all

<ChuckOp> Apologies, have to drop out.

SLH: Thinking more about a possible study of whether people can see it and designing a test

<shawn> ACTION: shawn work with wayne and jim on study design for https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/98 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/16-lvtf-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Work with wayne and jim on study design for https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/98 [on Shawn Henry - due 2015-12-23].

<laura> Bye. Happy Holiday’s.

trackbot, end meeting

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Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

16 Dec 2015

Attendees

Contents

FPWD

survey results

perceptual area

Luminance

Color

wcag issue#98

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

Scribe.perl diagnostic output