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paul: f2f meeting coming up the
end of the month
... Wonsuk suggested some big topics
... specific emails
... TAG responded to my point on GitHub
... would talk about any specific topics on the table
... anything to be added?
kaz: TPAC topic includes joint meetings. right?
paul: two meetings expected so
far
... Geolocation and Payments
... Tuesday at 9am for Payments, 10am for Geolocation
... intersection of specs
... Kevin from Automotive
... Giri from Geolocation
... and some Big Data guy?
wonsuk: maybe Tobie Langel?
paul: Simon from Fraunhofer
... might be a phone meeting
... Telematics
<ted> https://www.w3.org/community/bde-transport/
kaz: Ted provided some
information
... Simon Scerri from Fraunhofer as the Chair of BDE-Smart
(https://www.w3.org/community/bde-transport/)
... and Mary Brady from NIST as the Chair of the Big Data CG
(https://www.w3.org/community/bigdata/)
paul: contacted both
... got response from Simon
... liaison during TPAC
... very interesting themes
... Dave Raggett from WoT?
kaz: he'll attend TPAC, esp. for the WoT IG meeting
paul: contacted Joerg Heuer, the Chair of the WoT IG
kaz: security is one of the hot
topics
... also the scope of "Web of *Things*" should include
automotive as well
hashimoto: any discussion on security by WoT?
paul: they have published many things on security
wonsuk: we can have the status of
security work by the WoT IG
... we can ask them about the status
<Paul> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Security,_Privacy_and_Resilience
wonsuk: and after that we can talk about security with each other
paul: have just put their wiki URL above
<Paul> http://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/
paul: their meeting will be held
on Thu/Fri (=Oct. 29/30)
... Hashimoto-san, did you see the link above?
hashimoto: yes, I'd review the wiki this week
wonsuk: we have to investigate
our use cases first
... and then what is the approach of the WoT side
... because that is very complicated
... we need to investigate their approach
paul: sounds good
... how should we continue the discussion with them?
kaz: can help you :)
hashimoto: briefly reviewing the
WoT wiki
... data authentication integrity is related to our
requirements
... Single sign-on as well
paul: everyone should look at their security work
adam: if there is anything for
coordination, please let me know
... TV group is one of those to meet with
kaz: MMI chair was interested in joint meeting
adam: Generic Sensor is another
paul: what about the DAP WG?
wonsuk: DAP won't meet at
TPAC
... Tobie is one of the Editors of Generic Sensor API
... we should contact him
... can contact him
paul: Giri sent his message CCing DAP WG
kaz: we can start with Giri's
message to contact Tobie
... please note that Tobie is planning to have a breakout
session on Wednesday
... and an adhoc meeting on Tuesday
paul: Wonsuk, you'll contact
Tobie for Generic Sensor?
... Adam for TV?
kaz: already talked with the MMI Chair :)
paul: the issue 37 on
GitHub
... TAG responded
... would suggest we have implementers
... we have to find implementers
... helpful to have a focus session for that
... recommended spec
... people have to implement the spec for the spec to reach a
REC
kaz: we need both implementations
and tests
... so we might want to have a session on how to test vehicle
API
... maybe it could be done during the joint session with
TV
... because IVI runtime is a bit different from usual
browsers
wonsuk: we could ask Geolocation
as well for opinions
... we already have proposed agenda to Giri
... now including API style, etc.
... we can add testing topic as well for the joint meeting with
Geo
paul: have updated the agenda on the wiki
<Paul> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Main_Page
paul: would encourage you all to
add topics if needed
... the other topic is security
... Hashimoto-san, what do you want to talk?
hashimoto: currently I'm getting
30 elementary use cases based on the 60 use cases we discussed
in Seattle
... wondering how to handle security portion, within the
Vehicle API spec or another document
... personally think two big issues, ID and history (logging
functionality)
... these two features are included in the current spec
... but there are conflicts with security considerations
... would talk about those points
paul: ok
... so we'll see some stuff from you this week
hashimoto: yes
paul: question on the BG list asking about how to handle yaw rate
... quickly responded
... Hashimoto-san, you'll come to Seoul too?
hashimoto: yes
paul: contacting Genivi system
architecture group
... three security sessions on Wednesday
hashimoto: will be in Seoul on Oct. 22-23
paul: we can try meeting on
Friday
... if possible, you're encouraged to join the Wednesday
meeting too
adam: security session on
Friday
... we need to check with Philippe
... Paul and I will contact him again
paul: don't have anything else
today
... anything else?
adam: agenda for the BG meeting?
paul: discussion with the
security guys from Genivi
... media tuner?
... Dave Mitchell
... Philippe has been working with Qing An for LBS topics
... probably we should send a message to the BG
... BG meeting next Tuesday?
adam: set up recurring meetings for BG?
paul: yes
... second Tuesday every month
ted: regarding Philippe, hopefully we could get him more actively
paul: are you available on Wednesday?
ted: yes
(Kaz can't be in Seoul on Oct. 21 due to another auto event in Japan)
paul: let's see we can meet on Friday, Oct. 23
ted: business group incubator
paul: we're talking about getting together
ted: good to see who have got registered
kaz: wondering about the procedure for Hashimoto-san's security talk on Thursday, Oct. 22
ted: should be no problem
paul: if there is any problem, please let me know
kaz: ok
paul: Wednesday and Thursday are Open Day
ted: W3C session will be on Thursday
paul: Genivi Open Day includes
open sessions
... for the W3C session, there should be no issues
[ adjourned ]