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15:00:52 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
15:00:52 <trackbot> Date: 11 August 2015
15:01:00 <joesteele> scrbe: joesteele
15:01:06 <joesteele> scribe: joesteele
15:01:37 <joesteele> chair: paulc
15:01:48 <joesteele> topic: role call, agenda
15:02:49 <paulc> dropped off a minute there
15:04:23 <markw> present+markw
15:04:29 <markw> present+ markw
15:05:17 <joesteele> topic: present +MattWolenetz
15:05:36 <joesteele> topic: MSE test suite status
15:05:40 <paulc> http://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/all.html
15:05:57 <joesteele> paulc: stil outstanding is update from Jerry on IE11 or Edge
15:06:19 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: Jerry has also been getting up to speed
15:06:40 <paulc> Track interface pieces: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Jul/0015.html
15:06:48 <joesteele> paul: some discussion about track Interface implementation has been done
15:07:04 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: those will need valid tests and an implementation, Chrome is behind on that right now for me to do
15:07:17 <joesteele> … some text tracks, no audio tracks as yet
15:07:31 <joesteele> paulc: Microsoft thought there might be some issues withthe WebIDL here
15:07:54 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: I think the WebIDL interfaces were failing pretty badly on Chrome, need to follow up there
15:08:23 <joesteele> … e.g. source buffer interface operations — Firefox, IE have slightly better passing. Might be a chance on one side or the other
15:08:29 <joesteele> … have a bug on that
15:08:48 <joesteele> … 2 things — track stuff is known work with known test gaps (no implementation)
15:09:06 <joesteele> … other part is Chrome is failing some of the WebIDL stuff (internal bug on that)
15:09:25 <davide> present+ davide
15:09:29 <joesteele> paulc: can you respond to the thread with that status and point to the Chrome bugs?
15:09:32 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: sure
15:09:54 <joesteele> topic: New MSE bugs
15:10:03 <joesteele> topic: Bug 29002  - [MSE] It is possible to append media segments when no corresponding init segment has been appended
15:10:11 <joesteele> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29002
15:10:21 <joesteele> paulc: have you had a chance to look Matt?
15:10:50 <paulc> Matt responded as INVALID: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29002#c1
15:10:54 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: believe it is an invalid scenario
15:11:19 <joesteele> … once you reach “have metadata” state and append something else, that should call the “end of stream” algorithm.
15:11:38 <joesteele> … that ends up chaining to the HTML media element stuff and gettting into the resource selection alg
15:12:01 <joesteele> … after that you need to make sure there is no error on the media element, but there is so you can’t append anything more
15:12:15 <joesteele> … not sure how you could do successfull parsing in this case
15:12:30 <joesteele> paulc: lets see how the original responder comes back
15:12:48 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: would be open to fixing if it looks fixable
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15:12:52 <jdsmith> present +
15:12:59 <joesteele> topic: Bug 29008  - [MSE] Media Segment Header is not defined
15:13:04 <joesteele> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008
15:13:07 <paulc> present+ jdsmith
15:13:14 <paulc> Matt's repsonse: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008#c1
15:13:35 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: seems like there is an undefined thing here — a bit ambiguous
15:13:46 <joesteele> … need a header to proceed, but what that is - is not defined
15:14:09 <joesteele> … would be great to have coded frames emittable without the abort
15:14:24 <joesteele> … suggested replacement text seems to make sense to me
15:14:34 <joesteele> … open to better text if available
15:14:55 <joesteele> … Either we need to define this for each byte stream (seems non-interoperable)
15:15:13 <joesteele> … or we leave this up to the implementation to get the decodable frames (more flexible)
15:16:00 <joesteele> paulc: now we can go over the existing bugs again — for the list of bugs in the agenda any changes?
15:16:12 <joesteele> jdsmith: no updates yet — I know I am overdue
15:16:25 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: also here
15:17:06 <joesteele> jdsmith: I could devote some time, but I have been prioritzing EME as that seems more pressing
15:17:16 <joesteele> … could put this first instead
15:17:32 <joesteele> … talked about the capabilities thing, which has kept me from that
15:17:51 <joesteele> paulc: I would make sure you are comfortable with the text results first
15:18:16 <joesteele> … while you are doing that if Matt can focus on the bugs, maybe we will have more information on the test results and track attrobute question
15:18:37 <joesteele> … if Matt also makes headway on the bugs we will be in better shape
15:19:15 <joesteele> … I think the best plan is to give you some time back now to work on these
15:19:27 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:19:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/11-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:19:28 <joesteele> .. reconvene in 2 weeks
15:19:36 <joesteele> I will stay in touch with the editors
15:19:57 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: Jerry do you think we need IE11 results on the test page? or are you focusing on Edge?
15:20:13 <joesteele> jdsmith: we don’t intend to make changes to IE11 - focusing on Edge
15:20:23 <joesteele> … but would like to have both on the page still for now
15:20:31 <joesteele> MattWolenetz: ok
15:20:50 <joesteele> rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:20:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/11-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
15:22:15 <joesteele> paulc: bye
15:22:20 <joesteele> rrsagent, generate minutes
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15:23:30 <joesteele> s/topic\: present +MattWolenetz//
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15:23:52 <joesteele> present+ davide
15:24:00 <joesteele> present+ markw
15:24:09 <joesteele> present+ adrianba
15:24:14 <joesteele> present+ cwilso
15:24:21 <joesteele> rrsagent, generate minutes
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15:24:59 <joesteele> s/present +MattWolenetz//
15:25:06 <joesteele> rrsagent, generate minutes
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15:25:47 <joesteele> s/Might be a chance/Might be a change/
15:25:52 <joesteele> rrsagent, generate minutes
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15:26:33 <joesteele> s/prioritzing/prioritizing/
15:26:38 <joesteele> rrsagent, generate minutes
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15:27:28 <joesteele> rrsagent, bye
15:27:28 <RRSAgent> I see no action items