IRC log of html-media on 2015-08-11

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Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 11 August 2015
15:01:00 [joesteele]
scrbe: joesteele
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scribe: joesteele
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chair: paulc
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topic: role call, agenda
15:02:49 [paulc]
dropped off a minute there
15:04:23 [markw]
present+markw
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present+ markw
15:05:17 [joesteele]
topic: present +MattWolenetz
15:05:36 [joesteele]
topic: MSE test suite status
15:05:40 [paulc]
http://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/all.html
15:05:57 [joesteele]
paulc: stil outstanding is update from Jerry on IE11 or Edge
15:06:19 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: Jerry has also been getting up to speed
15:06:40 [paulc]
Track interface pieces: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Jul/0015.html
15:06:48 [joesteele]
paul: some discussion about track Interface implementation has been done
15:07:04 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: those will need valid tests and an implementation, Chrome is behind on that right now for me to do
15:07:17 [joesteele]
… some text tracks, no audio tracks as yet
15:07:31 [joesteele]
paulc: Microsoft thought there might be some issues withthe WebIDL here
15:07:54 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: I think the WebIDL interfaces were failing pretty badly on Chrome, need to follow up there
15:08:23 [joesteele]
… e.g. source buffer interface operations — Firefox, IE have slightly better passing. Might be a chance on one side or the other
15:08:29 [joesteele]
… have a bug on that
15:08:48 [joesteele]
… 2 things — track stuff is known work with known test gaps (no implementation)
15:09:06 [joesteele]
… other part is Chrome is failing some of the WebIDL stuff (internal bug on that)
15:09:25 [davide]
present+ davide
15:09:29 [joesteele]
paulc: can you respond to the thread with that status and point to the Chrome bugs?
15:09:32 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: sure
15:09:54 [joesteele]
topic: New MSE bugs
15:10:03 [joesteele]
topic: Bug 29002 - [MSE] It is possible to append media segments when no corresponding init segment has been appended
15:10:11 [joesteele]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29002
15:10:21 [joesteele]
paulc: have you had a chance to look Matt?
15:10:50 [paulc]
Matt responded as INVALID: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29002#c1
15:10:54 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: believe it is an invalid scenario
15:11:19 [joesteele]
… once you reach “have metadata” state and append something else, that should call the “end of stream” algorithm.
15:11:38 [joesteele]
… that ends up chaining to the HTML media element stuff and gettting into the resource selection alg
15:12:01 [joesteele]
… after that you need to make sure there is no error on the media element, but there is so you can’t append anything more
15:12:15 [joesteele]
… not sure how you could do successfull parsing in this case
15:12:30 [joesteele]
paulc: lets see how the original responder comes back
15:12:48 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: would be open to fixing if it looks fixable
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present +
15:12:59 [joesteele]
topic: Bug 29008 - [MSE] Media Segment Header is not defined
15:13:04 [joesteele]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008
15:13:07 [paulc]
present+ jdsmith
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Matt's repsonse: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008#c1
15:13:35 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: seems like there is an undefined thing here — a bit ambiguous
15:13:46 [joesteele]
… need a header to proceed, but what that is - is not defined
15:14:09 [joesteele]
… would be great to have coded frames emittable without the abort
15:14:24 [joesteele]
… suggested replacement text seems to make sense to me
15:14:34 [joesteele]
… open to better text if available
15:14:55 [joesteele]
… Either we need to define this for each byte stream (seems non-interoperable)
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… or we leave this up to the implementation to get the decodable frames (more flexible)
15:16:00 [joesteele]
paulc: now we can go over the existing bugs again — for the list of bugs in the agenda any changes?
15:16:12 [joesteele]
jdsmith: no updates yet — I know I am overdue
15:16:25 [joesteele]
MattWolenetz: also here
15:17:06 [joesteele]
jdsmith: I could devote some time, but I have been prioritzing EME as that seems more pressing
15:17:16 [joesteele]
… could put this first instead
15:17:32 [joesteele]
… talked about the capabilities thing, which has kept me from that
15:17:51 [joesteele]
paulc: I would make sure you are comfortable with the text results first
15:18:16 [joesteele]
… while you are doing that if Matt can focus on the bugs, maybe we will have more information on the test results and track attrobute question
15:18:37 [joesteele]
… if Matt also makes headway on the bugs we will be in better shape
15:19:15 [joesteele]
… I think the best plan is to give you some time back now to work on these
15:19:27 [paulc]
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/11-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:19:28 [joesteele]
.. reconvene in 2 weeks
15:19:36 [joesteele]
I will stay in touch with the editors
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MattWolenetz: Jerry do you think we need IE11 results on the test page? or are you focusing on Edge?
15:20:13 [joesteele]
jdsmith: we don’t intend to make changes to IE11 - focusing on Edge
15:20:23 [joesteele]
… but would like to have both on the page still for now
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MattWolenetz: ok
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paulc: bye
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s/topic\: present +MattWolenetz//
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15:25:47 [joesteele]
s/Might be a chance/Might be a change/
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15:26:33 [joesteele]
s/prioritzing/prioritizing/
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