IRC log of html-media on 2015-08-11
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- Zakim, this will be 63342
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 11 August 2015
- 15:01:00 [joesteele]
- scrbe: joesteele
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- scribe: joesteele
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- chair: paulc
- 15:01:48 [joesteele]
- topic: role call, agenda
- 15:02:49 [paulc]
- dropped off a minute there
- 15:04:23 [markw]
- present+markw
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- present+ markw
- 15:05:17 [joesteele]
- topic: present +MattWolenetz
- 15:05:36 [joesteele]
- topic: MSE test suite status
- 15:05:40 [paulc]
- http://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/all.html
- 15:05:57 [joesteele]
- paulc: stil outstanding is update from Jerry on IE11 or Edge
- 15:06:19 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: Jerry has also been getting up to speed
- 15:06:40 [paulc]
- Track interface pieces: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Jul/0015.html
- 15:06:48 [joesteele]
- paul: some discussion about track Interface implementation has been done
- 15:07:04 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: those will need valid tests and an implementation, Chrome is behind on that right now for me to do
- 15:07:17 [joesteele]
- … some text tracks, no audio tracks as yet
- 15:07:31 [joesteele]
- paulc: Microsoft thought there might be some issues withthe WebIDL here
- 15:07:54 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: I think the WebIDL interfaces were failing pretty badly on Chrome, need to follow up there
- 15:08:23 [joesteele]
- … e.g. source buffer interface operations — Firefox, IE have slightly better passing. Might be a chance on one side or the other
- 15:08:29 [joesteele]
- … have a bug on that
- 15:08:48 [joesteele]
- … 2 things — track stuff is known work with known test gaps (no implementation)
- 15:09:06 [joesteele]
- … other part is Chrome is failing some of the WebIDL stuff (internal bug on that)
- 15:09:25 [davide]
- present+ davide
- 15:09:29 [joesteele]
- paulc: can you respond to the thread with that status and point to the Chrome bugs?
- 15:09:32 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: sure
- 15:09:54 [joesteele]
- topic: New MSE bugs
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- topic: Bug 29002 - [MSE] It is possible to append media segments when no corresponding init segment has been appended
- 15:10:11 [joesteele]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29002
- 15:10:21 [joesteele]
- paulc: have you had a chance to look Matt?
- 15:10:50 [paulc]
- Matt responded as INVALID: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29002#c1
- 15:10:54 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: believe it is an invalid scenario
- 15:11:19 [joesteele]
- … once you reach “have metadata” state and append something else, that should call the “end of stream” algorithm.
- 15:11:38 [joesteele]
- … that ends up chaining to the HTML media element stuff and gettting into the resource selection alg
- 15:12:01 [joesteele]
- … after that you need to make sure there is no error on the media element, but there is so you can’t append anything more
- 15:12:15 [joesteele]
- … not sure how you could do successfull parsing in this case
- 15:12:30 [joesteele]
- paulc: lets see how the original responder comes back
- 15:12:48 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: would be open to fixing if it looks fixable
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- present +
- 15:12:59 [joesteele]
- topic: Bug 29008 - [MSE] Media Segment Header is not defined
- 15:13:04 [joesteele]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008
- 15:13:07 [paulc]
- present+ jdsmith
- 15:13:14 [paulc]
- Matt's repsonse: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008#c1
- 15:13:35 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: seems like there is an undefined thing here — a bit ambiguous
- 15:13:46 [joesteele]
- … need a header to proceed, but what that is - is not defined
- 15:14:09 [joesteele]
- … would be great to have coded frames emittable without the abort
- 15:14:24 [joesteele]
- … suggested replacement text seems to make sense to me
- 15:14:34 [joesteele]
- … open to better text if available
- 15:14:55 [joesteele]
- … Either we need to define this for each byte stream (seems non-interoperable)
- 15:15:13 [joesteele]
- … or we leave this up to the implementation to get the decodable frames (more flexible)
- 15:16:00 [joesteele]
- paulc: now we can go over the existing bugs again — for the list of bugs in the agenda any changes?
- 15:16:12 [joesteele]
- jdsmith: no updates yet — I know I am overdue
- 15:16:25 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: also here
- 15:17:06 [joesteele]
- jdsmith: I could devote some time, but I have been prioritzing EME as that seems more pressing
- 15:17:16 [joesteele]
- … could put this first instead
- 15:17:32 [joesteele]
- … talked about the capabilities thing, which has kept me from that
- 15:17:51 [joesteele]
- paulc: I would make sure you are comfortable with the text results first
- 15:18:16 [joesteele]
- … while you are doing that if Matt can focus on the bugs, maybe we will have more information on the test results and track attrobute question
- 15:18:37 [joesteele]
- … if Matt also makes headway on the bugs we will be in better shape
- 15:19:15 [joesteele]
- … I think the best plan is to give you some time back now to work on these
- 15:19:27 [paulc]
- rrsagent, generate the minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/11-html-media-minutes.html paulc
- 15:19:28 [joesteele]
- .. reconvene in 2 weeks
- 15:19:36 [joesteele]
- I will stay in touch with the editors
- 15:19:57 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: Jerry do you think we need IE11 results on the test page? or are you focusing on Edge?
- 15:20:13 [joesteele]
- jdsmith: we don’t intend to make changes to IE11 - focusing on Edge
- 15:20:23 [joesteele]
- … but would like to have both on the page still for now
- 15:20:31 [joesteele]
- MattWolenetz: ok
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- paulc: bye
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- s/topic\: present +MattWolenetz//
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- present+ davide
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- present+ markw
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- s/present +MattWolenetz//
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- s/Might be a chance/Might be a change/
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- s/prioritzing/prioritizing/
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items